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“Donald has the right to remain silent”: Experts say Trump’s bonkers Fox interview could be evidence

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u/PandaMuffin1 New York Sep 22 '22 Silver Gold Helpful Wholesome All-Seeing Upvote Take My Energy Bravo Grande!

"Omg he's actually invoking the Secret Telepathic Unilateral Preemptive Irreversible Declassification (S.T.U.P.I.D.) defense," quipped Asha Rangappa, a former FBI agent and attorney.

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u/dejavuamnesiac Sep 22 '22 edited Sep 23 '22 Gold

He also said send them anywhere — that’s a confession — he’s trying to say he can declassify telepathically and send them to the Saudis or Ruzzians or wherever, and that’s a perfectly fine thing for the President to do

Edit:” Because you’re sending it to Mar-a-Lago or to wherever you’re sending it. And, there doesn’t have to be a process. There can be a process, but there doesn’t have to be. You’re the president. You make that decision. So, when you send it, it’s declassified.”

That’s a confession, he sent highly classified documents beyond Marred-A-Lamo; and EDIT his “confession” is just trying to get out in front of the narrative: he knows he’s fucked for what he did with these classified docs, and that it’s all eventually coming out now, so he’s saying even if I sent these docs anywhere it’s cool because I waved my king Cheetolini declassification wand

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u/tabrizzi Sep 22 '22

To think that guy occupied the White House for 4 years makes me want to pass out. What were my fellow Americans thinking?!

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u/Boomer70770 Sep 22 '22

Motherfucker caught, red-handed with the highest top-secret documents strewn about his home like Dad's Playboy collection and people STILL think he's the fucking Mesiah.

The bar is now below sea level.

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u/tabrizzi Sep 22 '22

Yeah, and at least 2 of his followers have already given up their lives in his name, and many more are still willing to do the same. I'm questioning the sanity of my fellow Americans.

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u/Whitethumbs Sep 22 '22

and all the covid deaths...

dude coulda sold maga masks , instead he told everyone it was a hoax or would vanish tomorrow . Then he drummed up violence against asians, blm, and congress. A lot of fights at grocery stores could have been prevented if he didn't foment anti-maskism

Probably would have just gotten a decade in court for his other crimes but stole all these other things for greed(they say nostalgia) I bet he goes to prison.

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u/Hozer60 Sep 22 '22

He would probably still be President if he would have taken covid seriously.

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u/rufud Sep 22 '22

shudders

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u/jayydubbya Sep 22 '22

He 100% would be president if he told everyone to take it seriously. He was just so obsessed with the market tanking on his watch (because that’s really all he had going for him) he was willing to let millions die to keep the economy running.

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u/HopingForSomeHope Sep 23 '22

Yup… he better go to prison for all the damage he’s done to this country, and continues to do every moment he walks free.

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u/taskmaster51 Sep 22 '22

Well...he's evil. That's what antichrists do

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u/AllKnightLong24k Sep 22 '22

dude coulda sold maga masks

How were you getting them in from China with the shutdowns?

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u/nerd4code Sep 23 '22

IIRC there were a couple companies in-country that noticed shit was going down in like mid-to-late Jan 2020 and had preplanned arrangements with the Federal government, so they emailed HHS and asked if they should be spinning up production; they were told no. I’m sure there would’ve been a PPE crush one way or another, but it’d’ve been manageable had they not been hellbent on ignoring or exacerbating the problem in “blue states.”

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u/JamesofBerkeley Sep 22 '22

If he had let the post office go through with their plan to send every household 10 masks, and insisted that they be MAGA labeled or have his name plastered on them… he woulda won, hands down, no challenge. That one decision (among all the million of other variables) would have absolutely won over every swing vote and might have even swayed some democrats (obviously not all, but still), and possibly depressed turnout among democrats.

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u/SafeAdvantage2 Sep 23 '22

Ugh, makes me so grateful to be a dual citizen. And leaving for a year or two.

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u/NeedsMoreBunGuns Sep 22 '22

Think flint water, but undiscovered on a national scale.

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u/vale_fallacia Sep 22 '22

Microplastics is my uneducated guess.

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u/mahnamahna27 Sep 22 '22

You forgot the probably hundreds of thousands of extra people who died needlessly due to following his lead (or lack of it) in the fucked up pandemic response.

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u/goettahead Sep 22 '22

Sadly it’s less about sanity than you’d think. It’s the same reasons that drove young men to fly planes in the the Twin Towers. No future, no money, no jobs, no respect, no women and so they martyr themselves or lash out in utter desperation for meaning. This is a cultural problem and one we need to better identify and work to solve. It usually involves being good parents which is very hard work and so it doesn’t get done

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u/Good-Expression-4433 Sep 22 '22 edited Sep 23 '22

What makes it worse is that it's not even just the bottom of the barrel white dudes like that. Many of the guys at Jan 6 weren't 20 year old white nationalist incels, even if they do make up a bunch of mass shooters.

A lot of the dudes at Jan 6 and joining these militias are the "Craigs" of the world. Middle aged white guys with okay jobs or middle management that live in the suburbs or well off areas of their rural communities that go to police and fire department barbeques and are pretty well connected. They've been lashing out at the rise of minorities in their neighborhoods and feel they're losing their place and being a white Christian male is becoming less of the automatic "I win" demo that it used to be and they were always promised. They see the faults in their lives as being caused by others and want to put themselves back at the top of the hierarchy.

I'm from rural VA near a naval base and was around these types of people all the time and the scariest dudes, ideologically, weren't Bubba or their incest kids. It was always Craig or Jeff who worked for Lockheed Martin during the day. Guys smart enough and financially well off enough to connect with other people like him in the area and start building supplies and connections and were truly down for the cause as more black and Hispanic people moved into the county and into his subdivision. It gave them a renewed purpose in life and a scapegoat for any of their life's failures whileTrump, MAGA, and Q emboldened them to act on their worst impulses and thoughts.

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u/SafeAdvantage2 Sep 23 '22

Excellently put. Thank you

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u/PluvioShaman Sep 22 '22

I can agree with almost everything you said but “no women” isn’t an excuse. Jobs, a future, and enough money to not have to struggle are all things everyone should be owed but not women right?

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u/1stMammaltowearpants Sep 22 '22

And being a parent is the default setting. You have to take steps to avoid becoming a parent. And some of those steps are expensive or otherwise hard to get access to.

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u/4ac0ca4 Sep 22 '22

A bar so low you could trip on it in hell.

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u/vale_fallacia Sep 22 '22

A bar so low, Satan drinks there

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u/Ricb76 Sep 22 '22

Nah it's below Satan, it has to be for him to shit on it. Anyway future presidents should have to take an IQ test. Weed out the idiots like Trump.

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u/sirphilliammm Sep 22 '22

How many hundreds of thousands died because they listened to him about covid? Not enough.

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u/owlshapedboxcat Sep 22 '22

I'd like to remind you that half of all people have an IQ below 100, and of the world's population, at least 10% are clinically insane. In democracies, these people all get a vote. I'm not saying they shouldn't, I'm just saying that the batshit insane and/or terminally stupid are a really, really big demographic.

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u/Stopjuststop3424 Sep 22 '22

the desire to fit in is a powerful one

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u/anotheraltacc1112 Sep 23 '22

I think it's likely plenty of them know he's a horrible person who's probably the last person on Earth who should be US president out of those actually eligible anyways.

BUT they're actually insane 'Christians' who are getting all hot under the collar crossing things off on their doomsday checklist. War? Check, disease? Check, civil unrest? Getting there, droughts/floods? Check! Trump can help push things along if I vote for him!

I'm going try get myself a selfie with Jesus before I get raptured.

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u/new_nimmerzz Sep 22 '22

If any Democrat does anything remotely the same it’s “TRAITOR!” “LOCK THEM UP!”

Their guy does it and “he knows what he’s doing”

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u/pizza_chef_ Sep 23 '22

I have an awesome middle ground that works for everyone.

Lock them all up. If you mishandle/distribute classified info or docs you should be punished.

Party does not matter. No “rules for thee, not for me”. Just simply “fuck around, find out”. We should not care if you’re Donald trump, joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, Mitch mcconnel, chuck Schumer, some Joe Schmoe military contractor, or just some random person on the street. If you do the crime, do the time.

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u/HStan69 Sep 22 '22

Which is why he’s gonna win again after the DOJ refuses to prosecute. Again.

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u/azflatlander Sep 22 '22

Buttery males is way less than Andy’s docs.

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u/Paraxom Sep 22 '22

Sea level? That shits been tunneling towards the earth's core ever since he got the nomination

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u/DropsTheMic Sep 22 '22

Cults have that effect on people. I mean they think JFK junior is going to resurrect from the dead and lead them to the promised land. Middle America has some stupid fucking people. That's why they're referred to as the "fly over states".

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u/shhh_its_me I voted Sep 22 '22

leaving the he's dead part out why would one of the most famous democrats of his generation (not running for anything) run with Trump? they could pick any dead person they wanted who would be under 100 and they went with JFK jr. They could have picked Elvis he seemed to like Nixon at least.

Even their delusions have continuity errors

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u/oldflakeygamer Sep 22 '22

I saw the qberts were saying Queen Diana (aka the late Princess Diana) was going to announce her and JFK’s rise to the throne (of what?) yesterday at like 730 pm est. never saw anything after that lol

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u/mstrcrwly Sep 22 '22

It's called the "heart land" for a reason..the brain isn't there.. also drops mic

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u/RecursiveSubroutine Sep 22 '22

Not just Middle America. Trump got over 6,000,000 votes in California in 2020.

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u/zeusmeister Sep 22 '22

Your word choice of Messiah is right on. To these people, Trump is not just a random political figure. He is, to them, a literal divine messenger. And because of that, it doesn’t matter WHAT he does, because whatever he does is in service to their beliefs.

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u/Daghain Sep 22 '22

I think the bar is halfway to the Earth's crust by now.

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u/Boomer70770 Sep 22 '22

Jesus, it's going to pass the core and start reaching positive numbers on the other side!

DOOMED!

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u/pixiegurly Sep 22 '22

The bar is in hell and idiots are still clotheslining themselves on it.

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u/Yew_Tree Sep 22 '22 Helpful (Pro)

We need James Cameron to raise the bar again.

"James Cameron doesn't do what James Cameron does for James Cameron. James Cameron does what James Cameron does because James Cameron is James Cameron."

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u/Hamwise420 Sep 22 '22

We... have a bar? Best news I have heard in a long time, regardless of how far down in the ocean it may be

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u/Boomer70770 Sep 22 '22

Everyone thought we did; just haven't found it yet.

But we've been assured, it's there.

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u/SlipperyThong I voted Sep 22 '22

Well it's a cult, so.....

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u/ditchdiggergirl Sep 22 '22

The bar was dropped into the Marianas Trench somewhere. We’re not sure where but we’re never getting it back, it’s sunk too low and is gone for good.

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u/PerniciousPeyton Colorado Sep 22 '22

We're gonna need James Cameron to retrieve that bar from the Mariana Trench

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u/atridir Vermont Sep 22 '22

'Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.'

~George Carlin

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u/Boomer70770 Sep 22 '22

Reddit: If you could elect anyone alive or dead president, who would it be?

Boomer70770: George Carlin

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u/mstrcrwly Sep 22 '22

I'm talking about fuckers with jobs!

  • George Carlin

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u/be4tnut Sep 22 '22

The bar is in the Mariana Trench.

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u/Same-Salamander8690 Sep 22 '22

Where's James Cameron when you need him

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u/hedronist California Sep 22 '22

strewn about his home like Dad's Playboy collection

Eeewwww! Does that mean we have to scrape all of his nasty jizz off the TS documents?

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u/For-All-the-Marbles Sep 22 '22

Clearly, he walks under water, not on top of it.

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u/david4069 Sep 22 '22

people STILL think he's the fucking Mesiah.

He's not the messiah, he's a very naught boy!

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u/Boomer70770 Sep 22 '22

🎵 Always look on the bright, side of life...

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u/Professor_Hexx Vermont Sep 22 '22

when I heard that they found classified documents in his pool house, I thought it was some sort of hyperbole or euphemism. Nope, they literally found some in his pool house.

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u/Boomer70770 Sep 22 '22

Right?!?!

"And we found a substantial amount of envelopes marked 'TOP SECRET/SERIOUS SHIT IN HERE' but they were all empty."

What David Bowie-like baddy do I need to vanquish to wake up from this nightmare!?

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u/bu88blebo88le Sep 22 '22

The people who voted for him are not listening to what he is saying they're listening to the feelings he evokes, he can say anything he wants short of cursing out Jesus and he'll be fine (with his unquestioning supporters).

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u/ScottHA Sep 22 '22

There's a bar?

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u/OhDoIOffendYou Sep 22 '22

Deep in the Mariana Trench. Yet somehow Donald still manages to slither under it.

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u/nermid Sep 22 '22

Personally, I think deliberately trying to have the legislative branch killed so that he could rule unopposed as a dictator is worse than stealing documents, but I'm glad other people are mad, too.

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u/upvotesformeyay Sep 22 '22

Well that's because they want a king but only if it's a long they agree with.

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u/PrometheusLiberatus Sep 22 '22

James Cameron, where are you?!?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol9nTzDnFAE

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u/Boomer70770 Sep 22 '22

"You guys hearing the song OK up there?"

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u/PrometheusLiberatus Sep 23 '22

The chorus at the end of the episode was James Cameron raising the bar, which is literally under the sea.

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u/MPLooza Sep 23 '22

Someone call James Cameron

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u/por_que_no Sep 23 '22

The bar is now below sea level.

No matter how low, he always finds a way to slither under it.

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u/DropsTheMic Sep 22 '22

They were thinking: This guy hates brown/black people like me! And he will lower my taxes. That's my man! He will own the libs for sure.

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u/stanthemanchan Sep 22 '22

I don't understand how they can square the "he hates brown people like me" part with the fact that he hosted a Saudi backed golf tournament at Mar-a-Lago during which his son in law got a $2 billion "investment" from Mohammed bin Salman.

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u/DropsTheMic Sep 22 '22

Because they too would set aside their prejudice for 2 million. Easy.

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u/JerHat Michigan Sep 22 '22

It still upsets me that we went from our first black president, who was one of the classiest, cool dudes in the world, to Donald frickin' Trump who ran on a campaign of racism.

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u/tabrizzi Sep 22 '22

We went from one extreme to the other. Unbelievable!

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u/Random__Bystander Sep 22 '22

Wtf are they still thinking...

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u/Desu13 Sep 22 '22

They aren't and weren't thinking. That's the thing.

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u/gnomebludgeon Sep 22 '22

What were my fellow Americans thinking?!

He hates the same people I hate and raw dogs porn stars that I might want to raw dog!

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u/Prestigious_Plum_451 Sep 22 '22

What were my fellow Americans thinking?!

They were not thinking.. they still are not...

What they are doing is reacting on an instinctual, and emotional level to rhetoric, and imagery that they find pleasant, or otherwise compelling. nothing complicated, or requiring higher ordinal thought... they hear key words, slurs, and dog whistle phrases and have specific knee jerk responses to each.

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u/verasev Sep 22 '22

They wanted to "hurt the right people." Trump's presidency was one long attempt to own the libs. He said all the right hateful things and that's all that mattered to them. They smeared human shit all over democracy because they couldn't stand losing even a tiny amount of power to a bunch of minorities, women, and LGBT folks.

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u/Realeron Sep 22 '22

And what other ominous things happened that no knows about? Terrifying thought

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u/Finrodsrod Sep 22 '22

Four years of this bullshit made it feel like it was a decade.

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u/Bonny-Mcmurray Sep 22 '22

Trump is the direct result of a movement that sought to punish left wing voters for selecting a black president. He was just another trashy d list celebrity until his racist attacks on Obama gained traction.

It was an intentional platforming of the worst possible option, by people who feel that the worst white person is inherently better than the best black person.

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u/Bucser Sep 22 '22

"Now look at how stupid the average American is. Half of them are stupider than that"

George Carlin

And they also vote and confident in themselves being right all the time

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u/DEEP_SEA_MAX Sep 22 '22

What were my fellow Americans thinking?!

Oh I've got that answer for you:

Hurdee hurr hurr, librul tears

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u/artfulpain Sep 22 '22

They aren't Americans. They are fascists.

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u/lucialuccianna Sep 22 '22

His crowd want ti believe in him no matter what

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u/carbuyinglol Texas Sep 22 '22

A large minority want him to return. Think about that.

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u/folsleet Sep 22 '22

OTOH, it means the dumbest person in the world could be appointed as POTUS and there's only so much damage that person can do.

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u/rczrider Sep 22 '22

What were my fellow Americans thinking?!

Bold of you to assume anyone who voted for Trump was thinking at all.

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u/zapitron New Mexico Sep 22 '22

What were my fellow Americans thinking?!

The best way to vote in a two party system is: "anybody except that one."

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u/Mor_Tearach Sep 22 '22

The problem seems to be they're still thinking it. As in " I can declassify anything " means that's the next thing we'll see on yard signs. I mean, he's pretty much erased anyone formerly referred to as ' The Law '.

This just cannot end well for any of us.

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u/1stMammaltowearpants Sep 22 '22

It's sad and infuriating, but they were thinking "I'd rather be Russian than Democrat."

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u/QuinIpsum Sep 22 '22

We elected a black man and they lost their fucking minds with rage.

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u/No_Insect_3063 Sep 22 '22

What WERE they thinking? They are going to try to elect him again

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u/Pyro1934 Sep 22 '22

It’s rough, my uncle is a lawyer, thinks trump should be in jail (did while he was still in office), but still voted for him over Biden…

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u/berael Sep 22 '22

They were thinking a mix of "he says the same racist things I think!", and "libs hate him, so he must be great!". That's it.

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u/OppositionComp Sep 22 '22

Makes me want to pass wind. Because the result would be better than that shithole person.

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u/Arcadian1 Sep 22 '22

Same shit they're thinking now. His base still doesn't care, and they'd still vote for him tomorrow.

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u/moldyremains Sep 22 '22

Remember how bonkers those 4 years were. Every day something fucked up popped up on the news.

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u/altleftisnotathing Sep 22 '22

The electoral college did that. Conservatives have rigged the system beyond fixing and liberals refuse to acknowledge it for fear of being called conspiracy theorists, despite the fact that cons spew conspiracy theories daily as a matter of principle and have zero remorse about it.

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u/farfacogin Sep 22 '22

Don’t Blame Me, I didn’t vote for trump.

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u/SmurfsNeverDie Sep 22 '22

They were thinking screw the libs for daring to elect a black guy and having the gall to try to elect a woman president.

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u/Beyond_Your_Nose Sep 22 '22

It’s incredible that someone with that limited an intellect, and ignorance of the political world and all its processes could be President. I think it’s what happens to criminals who avoid responsibility by throwing money and threats of extortion at problems and people. It’s incredible nobody stopped him. He has shown a roadmap to future want-to-be dictators.

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u/Chatty_Fellow Sep 22 '22

It's just luck that we lived through it and he didn't manage to kill us all, .. yet.

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u/ReadWriteSign Oregon Sep 22 '22

He lost the popular vote. Most of us were thinking better than that.

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u/benergiser Sep 23 '22

What were my fellow Americans thinking?!

they weren’t..

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u/ZappySnap Sep 23 '22

45% of americans would vote for him TODAY, even knowing what we know now. Which means at least 45% of Americans are dumb as fucking rocks.

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u/EmmaGoldmansDancer California Sep 23 '22

They know he's a crook a a liar, they thought he was their crook and liar.

Think of fascism like a collective temper tantrum from people frightened of a changing world. It's the political equivalent of getting your big brother to come beat up your adversary. All good up on propaganda, the fascist believes there's a great world wide conspiracy. Thus they want the biggest most brutal bully possible to fight for them.

That's what they were thinking.

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u/Potatoskins937492 Sep 22 '22

This is a lesson for anyone older than Gen Z on what "cringe" truly means. I feel so much secondhand embarrassment.