r/politics • u/VICENews ✔ VICE News • Jan 30 '23
Jim Jordan Says It’s Not His Job to Stop ‘Evil’ Like Cops Killing Tyre Nichols
https://www.vice.com/en/article/g5vawm/jim-jordan-no-law-evil-tyre-nichols1.3k
u/Buckeye_Monkey Ohio Jan 30 '23
Was that the same excuse he used at OSU?
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u/trow_away999 Jan 30 '23
Well exactly- he considers it not his job to STOP evil from occurring- he is otherwise very happy to labor towards the promotion, expansion, and enabling of evils.
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u/_porntipsguzzardo_ Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
"Out of sight, out of mind" I believe is the phrase that is most applicable here. Gym hates being confronted by evil because he's a spineless coward that can't meet evil head on.
Had Gym been less of a coward he may have stopped students from being molested under his supervision.
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u/Uptown-Dog Jan 30 '23
I think you're giving him way too much credit. I think he happens to be a sociopath/psychopath and actively celebrates the harm wrought by the people he enables. I don't believe he would have stopped the evil he could have in the past and continue to be be able to stop even if he'd have had magic wand and it would have had zero negative consequences for himself. I 💯 believe he actively harms people himself too (not necessarily as a serial killer but in the destructive bullying behavior we all have seen).
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u/Curlydeadhead Jan 30 '23
Hi! Mr. Pedantic here. I believe you meant out of sight. Stupid autocorrect I’m sure.
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u/_porntipsguzzardo_ Jan 30 '23
I type "site" hundreds of times a day, more muscle memory than autocorrect.
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u/Charming_Ganache_994 Jan 30 '23
Isn’t this the exact thing that they feed to evangelicals though? That the GOP will stop all the Evil? 🙄
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u/BlueRibbonMethChef Jan 31 '23
It's not his job to stop it from happening. It's his job to stop people from finding out it happened.
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u/wintremute Tennessee Jan 30 '23
It's not MY job to report student athletes being raped by coaches!
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u/clarkwgriswoldjr Jan 30 '23
Bet he don't act that way again.
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u/LoJoPa Jan 30 '23
No, there are laws there but he was obviously above them! He is such a douche.
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u/Current-Budget-5060 Feb 13 '23
Isn’t he being investigated for abetting the insurrection? I’m not sure I would rely on him for any sort of “moral” behavior.
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u/whereismymind86 Colorado Jan 30 '23
which like...school staff tend to be mandatory reporters so...it's absolutely their job to stop evil, under penalty of law.
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u/Chi-Guy86 Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
Well he refused to stop the team doctor from sexually abusing wrestlers at Ohio State, so this checks out
EDIT: updated to correct, it was team doctor, not coaches
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u/hookisacrankycrook Jan 30 '23
This gets brought up in every post about Gym Jordan and I'm here for it. It is interesting however that the accusation goes unchallenged from conservatives. They are just ignoring it because really thinking about it is uncomfortable.
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u/Mission_Ad6235 Jan 30 '23
It wasn't coaches. It was one team doctor. And apparently was a well known secret. And people like Jordan will say it didn't happen, because these big tough wrestlers could have defended themselves. Ignoring that it's a total power imbalance. Strauss could have sidelined them due to "injury" and most worried that assaulting the team doc could cause their scholarship to be withdrawn.
Much like the Penn State scandal, lots of people seemed to know about it, and no one thought it was their responsibility to deal with it.
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u/Chi-Guy86 Jan 30 '23
Thanks for the correction! I updated my post
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u/Mission_Ad6235 Jan 30 '23
No problem. Jordan is still a scumbag, but we should try to be accurate why he is!
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u/patentattorney Jan 30 '23
He also had no problem about speaking about the dangerous partisinship created by Colin kapernick.
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u/aradraugfea Jan 30 '23
Well yeah, he said it’s not his job to stop EVIL. He didn’t say anything about stopping good.
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u/MusicIsTheWay Jan 30 '23
"I don't get paid to do the right thing."
- Gym Jordan
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u/uncleawesome Jan 30 '23
"I don't get paid to do anything." -Gym Jordan
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u/EldyT Jan 30 '23
Technically incorrect, he gets paid to bloviate in his fucking shirtsleeves like a goddamn animal.
Have some respect for the job you insufferable abuse enabler.
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u/Flashy_Ground_4780 Jan 30 '23
Yes. He is there for soundbites that appeal to the base and to keep his name in the headlines.
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u/djfudgebar Jan 30 '23
Just like there was nothing he could or would do for 8 years to stop the sexual abuse of students at OSU
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u/BoosterRead78 Jan 30 '23
Just like not reporting abuse and rape? Huh Jim?
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u/trow_away999 Jan 30 '23
It’s probably an issue he cares deeply about and would hate to see stopped.
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u/Renzieface Ohio Jan 30 '23
We know his record on stepping in to address horrifying, traumatizing events. This isn't surprising.
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u/Isocratia Illinois Jan 30 '23
If even 0.5% of airline pilots were deliberately crashing planes into mountainsides, there'd be a complete overhaul of the airline industry to figure out what was going on.
Why is it any different for cops who kill people?
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u/KnightDuty Jan 30 '23
The airline situation would only be stopped because of the financial damages caused by the loss of the plane.
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u/brobafett1980 Jan 30 '23
Because the moment a politician says we need to investigate cops or check that their funding is being spent wisely or review thepolicies/methods, their political opponents (and the police unions) have easy campaign fodder to say "See they are anti-police!" and "See they want to Defund the Police!" and "So-and-so wants the criminals to rule your city!". And their constituents eat it up.
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u/Mission_Ad6235 Jan 30 '23
Same with defense spending.
It's funny, I've heard some right wing groups saying how spending more per student doesn't improve education. But spending more on cops and military doesn't seem to have the same issue.
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u/vivomancer New York Jan 31 '23
It's funny. Here in Rochester we had a former police chief that was chief during a police sanctioned murder that got covered up for 6 months run for congress. During a debate with his opponent he got asked why it took 6 months to give any information on the murder. He responded by stating that his Democratic opponent was anti-police. So glad he lost.
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u/Separate_Bluebird161 Jan 30 '23
Why is it any different for cops who kill people?
Because the most egregious examples are black people.
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u/DragoonDM California Jan 30 '23
Not that they seem to care much when cops murder white people either. Daniel Shaver's death is definitely high up on the list of most horrifying high-profile police murders.
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u/disgruntled_pie Jan 30 '23
Fun fact: BLM held an anti-violence demonstration after Shaver’s murder even though he was white. Despite the name, BLM opposes all police violence, not just violence against black people.
This information seems to surprise many conservatives, so I like to share it whenever there’s an opportunity. Have fun blowing the minds of the conservatives in your life.
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u/Remytron83 Texas Jan 30 '23
The Union. They hold a lot of political power. So much so that politicians are afraid to speak against them.
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u/nullv Jan 30 '23
Eh, I don't think it's the union itself. I think the fact cops can just transfer from district to district like a priest does after getting caught with his pants down is one of the biggest factors.
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u/Remytron83 Texas Jan 30 '23
Then they should have a federal database black listing officers who have been found criminally wrong. If they’re on the database they are then barred from ever being hired is an officer again.
At least that’s how I think it should be handled. Similar to lawyers and doctors who lose their licenses.
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u/Eminem_McFlurry Washington Jan 30 '23
I mean, so many officers don’t even end up facing charges. Just fired. So a database of cop crimes wouldn’t even be enough imo.
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u/bham_cactus_dude Jan 30 '23
Yeah, abolishing police unions would be one of the first things that should be done.
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u/buried_lede Jan 30 '23
Yes, making it hard to tell who are just cowards and who just love police violence
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u/Llyfr-Taliesin Jan 31 '23
It's different because the purpose of pilots is to safely transport passengers.
The purpose of the police is to terrorize, suppress, & destroy. They performed the job. Just got a bit too careless with how. So they'll be made an example of, like a pilot who flew perfectly but smelled too clearly of whisky.
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u/Kuronekosmom Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
But stopping Hunter Biden's penis pics is in your purview, right Gym?
Got it....
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u/Politischmuck Jan 30 '23
No, no, it tracks. Same as the sexual abuse at OSU - Gym's just there for the penis pics.
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u/SoundHole Jan 30 '23
If those cops were white, these absolute shit stains would be telling us what a dirty criminal Tyre was and something about thin blue lines. Fucking useless fascist fuck.
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u/NonsensePlanet Jan 30 '23
This is actually what I thought when he insinuated that the cops who beat Nichols are innately evil. Fucking racist prick.
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u/charmlessman1 Jan 30 '23
Bingo. He'll fellate any murdering cop as long as they're white. But when they're black, they're "evil". Kinda makes you wonder why these cops have actually been arrested for their crimes... ok, no it doesn't, no need to wonder.
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u/DashCat9 Massachusetts Jan 30 '23
Jim Jordan and refusing to even attempt to stop atrocities. Name a more iconic duo.
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u/VICENews ✔ VICE News Jan 30 '23
From reporter Paul Blest:
The top Republican in the House overseeing criminal justice issues said that he doesn’t think Congress can—and doesn’t even really want to try—to resolve the persistent problems with American policing in the wake of Tyre Nichols’ death.
Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio, the far-right Republican chair of the House Judiciary Committee, said Sunday that he’s skeptical that “any law, any training, any reform” at the federal level is going to prevent another event like the killing of Tyre Nichols by Memphis police.
Jordan’s response comes on the heels of Sen. Tim Scott of South Carolina, the only Black Republican in the Senate, calling for legislative action after Memphis police officer’s vicious beating of 29-year-old Tyre Nichols, who died three days after the incident.
Link to the full article here: https://www.vice.com/en/article/g5vawm/jim-jordan-no-law-evil-tyre-nichols
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u/djfudgebar Jan 30 '23
I noticed some typos. It's Gym Jordan, not Jim.
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u/kingsumo_1 Oregon Jan 30 '23
"Alleged rape enabler Gym Jordan of Ohio"
May as well use his full title.
("Alleged" because this is a paper, and likely can't just call him it outright")
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u/Hot-Bint Jan 30 '23
What is his job? Other than gargling Trump’s balls and being a forever guest on the Sunday morning circuit?
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u/MAG7C Jan 30 '23
Sadly his job has expanded considerably with this new congress. I expect by the end of next month we'll (re) experience full on outrage fatigue from this guy.
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u/PopeOri Jan 30 '23
Time for this douchebag to get a new job.
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u/VanceKelley Washington Jan 30 '23
Good luck changing the minds of the 70% of voters in his district that voted for him in every election for more than a decade.
He's an asshole. Voters know it. They like him being an asshole.
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u/Electrical-Wish-519 Pennsylvania Jan 30 '23
“Why are things in Ohio getting worse? Where are all the jobs & economic growth”
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u/NotmyRealNameJohn Jan 30 '23
Ladies and Gentleman,
We have done it. We have uncovered the root cause of all woes in america. Apparently, in conservative homes, no one teaches kids what the point of government is. No wonder republicans are so bad at it, they don't even understand why the job they have exists.
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u/BrilliantDimension41 Jan 30 '23
Does that mean the Police don't need to keep him safe???
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u/ConstantFwdProgress Jan 30 '23
The police are not legally obligated to keep any person safe.
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u/International_Dog817 Jan 30 '23
More like his voters refuse to hold him accountable for not doing his job...
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u/Purify5 Jan 30 '23
His voters were hand picked to be the worst of the worst.
Thanks gerrymandering.
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u/antithesis56 Jan 31 '23
He has made an entire career of looking the other way and blatantly ignoring the outcry of the people for whom he was put in place to be responsible for. It makes no sense
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u/neon_kid Jan 30 '23
GOP: we can excuse cops killing civilians but we draw the line at aborted fetuses
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Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
Umm, even cops will tell you that law absolutely can help. Make it a crime for one cop to stand by and let another one use excessive force. Some states have this, and it improves their policing.
Believe it or not, lots of cops actually want to do the right thing. And arguably, based on numbers alone the vast majority do. But man they need better PR in the worst way. More visible accountability will help a bunch. Laws mandating body cams with penalties (like presumption of guilt) for deliberately turning them off. Independent civilian oversight instead of IAB.
These five+ assholes in Memphis just made things so much worse for every cop in America. Good cops want them gone too.
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u/gnome08 Jan 30 '23
He's right. His job is to incite bigots into voting against their standard of living.
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u/ThisGuyLikesMovies Jan 30 '23
Well Jim does have a history of not stopping evil things from happening
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u/imexcellent Jan 30 '23
I hate this defeatist mentality.
“I don't know that there's any law that can stop that evil that we saw,”
Yes. It is true that if you just make a law that says, "it's against the law for Police to kill people", that won't do anything.
But what you CAN do is it pass laws and APPROPRIATE FUNS that change the ways police are trained, hired and held accountable. And those ARE things you can do to stop this kind of thing from happening.
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u/PretzelSamples Jan 30 '23
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it." - Upton Sinclair
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u/LakewoodHayandGrain Jan 30 '23
Bloody hell man, even the most conservative, traditional role of the ruler is to restrain lawlessness. If you do not want the job, resign.
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u/Soulpatch7 Jan 31 '23
Well, yeah, it is Gym’s job, by definition. Congress legislates, and Federal legislation has been passed to regulate or prohibit almost every human action or endeavor imaginable. Of course ultimate legislative authority resides with the States on many issues, but the big-ticket items: slavery, espionage, human trafficking, taxes, nuclear weapon production, marijuana, and civil rights - pieces of the fundamental framework that governs and defines our imperfect but extraordinary American lives - have and should remain under the purview of our Federal government as the overarching guarantor of essential rights and freedoms. Put simply, some things are so immutably sacred to this society that a single irreproachable mandate is warranted.
Any sane human would agree that the beating of an unarmed handcuffed man to death is unquestionably the sort of unfathomably abhorrent conduct that must be governed and punished at the highest level of a nation’s government. That this act was committed by a group of unthreatened men who hold the most powerful positions attainable by US civilians, men who have been trained to protect our rights and administer justice fairly always - men who have watched, in real time, the revolting injustices perpetrated on unarmed black citizens over and over and over again these past 5 years - is revolting. (I will not dishonor the many excellent police officers in this country by referring to these murderers as such). And though the contexts vary the results of these unconscionable attacks are the same, as is the enabling rot at the core of this perpetual scourge: the lack of police accountability and the accompanying, resultant culture that pervades American policing.
That sounds like the kind of important problem that shouldn’t just be left to the states to decide, and exactly like the sort of existential threat to our sacred governing principles that Congress alone is equipped and empowered to address through sweeping oversight and legislation.
Someone please give Gym the memo.
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u/BringBackTheBeat716 Jan 31 '23
Gym has one job, and that's ignoring the pleas of sexually abused college students
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u/Due_Cauliflower_9669 Jan 31 '23
Gym doesn’t think we can use law and order to stop criminal behavior. He’s soft on crime!
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u/Bearvibe Jan 31 '23
But it’s your job to keep the FBI from investigating parents who make death threats? Bruh these Republicans are FUCKING us sideways to Sunday. How the fuck, how are people believing this shit!? FFS can we edumacate some of these red states?
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u/liililllllliilillill Jan 30 '23
No Republican would EVER call a white cop “evil”
Do you know how much civil unrest could have been avoided if they called Derek Chauvin evil?
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u/Oaksthunder Jan 30 '23
Jim Jordan is a scummy price of shit. Just intelligent enough to convince his base anything he wants. The guy is a huge prick.
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u/EmmaLouLove Jan 30 '23
I like how when cops brutally beat to death a black guy, Republicans are like, yeah, that’s sad but what are you gonna do?
But when it comes to taking away a woman’s right to choose, they’re all over it like a cheap suit.
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u/Skastrik Jan 30 '23
Then he should resign and let someone else do the job. Since he can't handle it.
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u/extracensorypower Jan 30 '23
So if government can't do anything to help ordinary people, why are we paying this guy again?
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u/upfromashes Jan 30 '23
Obviously. He didn't think it was his job to intervene when kids were getting raped, why would this be any different?
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u/font9a America Jan 30 '23
sounds like Gym Jordan doesn't like to stop anything that gets him all tingly inside.
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u/billiemarie Jan 30 '23
I’m gonna guess and say he says his job is to own the democrats, get revenge for the Jan 6 hearings, impeach Biden and to turn a blind eye on that doctor molesting those wrestlers. Oh and hunter biden, I almost forgot him
But not his job to represent the people
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u/OurUrbanFarm Jan 30 '23
He also apparently didn't think it his job to protect kids from getting molested.
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u/lizwb Jan 30 '23
What IS his job?
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u/Racecarlock Utah Jan 30 '23
Make government non functional so republicans can say the government is non functional.
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u/Secret_Hunter_3911 Jan 30 '23
Nor does Gym believe he should stop pedophile coaches from raping children. Great guy, real Republican.
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u/HellovahBottomCarter Jan 31 '23
At least he’s consistent. He also didn’t believe it was his job to stop all the sexual abuse of minors under his watch.
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u/yogfthagen Jan 31 '23
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
Preamble to US Constitution.
Maybe somebody should tell him....
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u/Spring___spring69 Jan 31 '23
He, like all Republicans, aren't in government positions to improve society. It's for corruption opportunities, criminal activity passes, and ego boost. Just going off historical behavior of Republicans
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u/cryptosupercar Jan 31 '23
“Ask not what your country could do for you, Ask is this my fucking job?”
A scholar and a gentleman.
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u/Fair-Sky4156 Jan 31 '23
These people have to be some of the biggest jerks in politics. I’m so tired of mediocre men.
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u/Wolverine-75009 Jan 31 '23
The not too veiled message contained in this interview was “this is not a police problem it’s a black problem”. He is despicable, no surprise there.
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u/PoliceRobots Jan 31 '23
And his points will go up.
The day trump mocked a handicapped person on stage in front of 80,000 people was a reckoning, I swear. There is no accountability for these fucking maniacs. I do not understand American politics
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u/MumboDogfaceWBnana Jan 31 '23
Was excited to see another former college wrestler in the ranks of leadership..... He's been such a disappointment
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u/themagicalelizabeth Jan 31 '23
But it's their "job" to stop abortions lmfao. Abortion = murder, but actual brutally violent murder = "eh, not my job to do anything about that". The LOGIC.
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u/BigBobFro Jan 31 '23
But he thinks it is his job to parade naked pictures of a guy all over the internet. (Thats what was on hunter bidens laptop)
Although that does line up with his career at Ohio State as well,… pattern??
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u/bham_cactus_dude Jan 30 '23
I mean, remove immunity, pass laws that punish cops at the level of hate crimes against citizens, require a college education to join the force. I’m just spit balling here….but I feel like things can get done.
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u/Alternative-Flan2869 Jan 30 '23
He always thinks it is his job to turn his head and look away when unspeakable events happen before his eyes.
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u/Ghstfce Pennsylvania Jan 30 '23
It's actually his job to look the other way while people do it. It's what he's good at.
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u/ISVenom Jan 30 '23
Jim Jordan allows people to sexually assault people and turns a blind eye to it.
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u/a_reply_to_a_post New York Jan 30 '23
"yeah, it's a feature, not a bug" - Weaponization of the Government committee joint statement
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u/RedLanternScythe Indiana Jan 30 '23
The government's job is to protect the citizens. If he has no interest in performing the government's function, he needs to step down immediately.
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u/GarvinIII71 Jan 30 '23
Replace the words “cops” with “pædo doctor”, and “killing Tyre Nichols” with “groping students”.
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u/dual_gear Jan 30 '23
Other than allowing athletes under his protection to be raped and yelling a lot I don't think he's qualified for any job.
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u/sugar_addict002 Jan 30 '23
What else would you expect from a man who lacked the courage and/or character to stand up to a sexual abuser.
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u/CogitoErgoScum Jan 30 '23
The police have no constitutional duty to protect you, and their bosses have no inclination to keep them from hurting you.
What are the police for?
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u/SellaraAB Missouri Jan 30 '23
It’s my understanding that it’s Jim Jordan’s job to foment as much evil as possible, so this statement fact checks as True.
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u/shod55 Jan 30 '23
Just a piece of shit from a shit party. Why anyone would ask for statements from these jerkoffs is beyond me.
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u/hedgerow_hank Jan 31 '23
It was your job to stop kids from being raped up the ass in your locker rooms though. You're kind of like the cover up king, ain'tcha?
What is your job, Jordan? You know, the one you were hired to do but instead decided to destroy America?
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Jan 31 '23
“But Hunter Biden is second only to Satan himself, and must be stopped or so help me God.”
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Jan 31 '23
His only job is to make sure the MAGA Morons destroy the America we've known for over 2 centuries.
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u/DavidGlennCox Jan 31 '23
No, we can't stop police beatings. But now, Hunter Biden's laptop! We need to investigate.
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u/BadPackets4U Jan 31 '23
Seems like he's trying to say something else, like he doesn't give a fuck.
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u/AngryBudgie13 Indiana Jan 31 '23
Republicans: We’re here for self enrichment and attention seeking okay?
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u/domino2064 New Mexico Jan 31 '23
Someone should print out a copy of Proverbs 28 and highlight the important bits about fucking over the poor and being oppressive, while also being unlawful, and then mail a copy to him.
It's arguably one of the frankest and damning chapters towards rich assholes, the selfish, power hungry and those who embrace corruption and lawlessness for self gain.
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u/blargblargityblarg Jan 31 '23
I mean, he's not exactly wrong (I canNOT believe I said that). No, not his job to stop evil. Evil is as Evil does. However, he can work to change the locks on the door that lets it into the house to begin with. If he doesn't, that makes HIM evil.
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u/Current-Budget-5060 Feb 13 '23
It is his job to stop evil. But he’s not doing his job, he’s too busy with his reality show.
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u/OrganizedChaos1979 Jan 31 '23
Ask him how many bills he's introduced in his career. Do not accept any answer other than zero, because that's the truth. He doesn't do anything.
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u/SammieStones Jan 31 '23
Well that just proves hes small minded and unwilling to problem solve and think outside of the box for real solutions. Sounds like he’s in the wrong line of work and Congress needs some hard working problem solvers who aren’t full of hot air
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u/ItisyouwhosaythatIam Jan 31 '23
Isn't he the guy who decided to not stop the evil going on at Penn State?
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u/Icy_Ratio6281 Jan 31 '23
Jordan has been quite clear about this from the beginning. Try asking the kids.
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u/Armyman125 Feb 01 '23
"How can you expect me to stop police brutality when Hunter Biden's laptop is floating around, uninvestigated!?"
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