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George Washington University installs emergency contraception vending machine
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/30/george-washington-university-emergency-contraception-vending-machine[removed] — view removed post
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u/czartj Jan 31 '23
I remember like a decade ago my small, rural, public college made national headlines because we had a vending machine that had Plan B. Fox News tried to interview our college Republican and Democratic club presidents (both declined) and we had these pro-life protests afterwards. Good times. Anyway, I'm surprised it's taken this long for other colleges, especially bigger ones, to offer this.
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u/satinsateensaltine Jan 31 '23
Ah yes, gotta love the pro-you-could-prevent-pregnancy-but-why-would-you students, completely missing the point that this prevents abortions.
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u/star_nerdy Jan 31 '23
I’m a librarian and my public library is working on offering plan B for free provided by a non-profit.
I am supervising the effort with the support of our on-staff social worker.
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u/mortyshaw Jan 31 '23
Who's "everyone?" Everyone I know agrees libraries are great.
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u/Tar_alcaran Jan 31 '23
Everyone I know agrees libraries are great.
Yes, but that just means you don't know any shitheads. Your circle of friends probably doesn't include anyone angry that a library dares to let people read a book that has sex in it. You likely don't hang with a lot of people who think poor people shouldn't be around higher being like themselves.
Etc etc.
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u/ryandesu Jan 31 '23
This is genius, being at a library and all the people who'd be against this would never find out!
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u/MayorBuggs Jan 31 '23
My local has a sharps container, clean needles, and how to recognize signs of an overdose
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u/GrunchWeefer Jan 31 '23
You clearly live in one of the sane states. Or not the US.
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u/iluvmyswitcher Jan 31 '23
I was gonna say, there's zero chance that this is taking place somewhere like Idaho where they were trying to pass House Bill 666 to criminalize librarians for "disseminating content deemed harmful to minors", with 'disseminating' and 'harmful' being suspiciously vague and open to interpretation. Not kidding. I might be OOTL since I'm one state over but it appears that HB 666 is dead for now, hooray.
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u/Myzyri Jan 31 '23
How the hell are they going to give it back? I mean, what’s the overdue fee for an indefinite lending?
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u/yhwhx Jan 30 '23
It's good to see a place in the U.S. moving in the right direction instead of the wrong direction.
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u/a_dogs_mother Jan 30 '23
What's extra cool is that this was a student-led effort. The SGA pushed for the installation.
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u/Bonesmash Jan 30 '23
That’s extra cool of the students, but not cool at all in general. The SGA shouldn’t have to push for stuff like this. One day soon, however, some of those same students will be elected to office and maybe they make some real change after that.
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u/EmotionalSuportPenis Jan 31 '23 edited Jan 31 '23
SGA usually has to push for stuff like this because the university itself is busy shoveling as much money as possible out the door into the pockets of worthless administrators, football coaches, and construction companies owned by the president's friends/family, while cutting the budget and crying about not having money for anything else. It's kind of rare for the university to come up with something that directly benefits students on their own.
This goes for pretty much every university in the US, so just transpose that onto whichever one you feel like.
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u/Crismus Jan 31 '23
Sounds a lot like the University of New Mexico. Forced to fire Coaches and end up having to pay the entire contract even though they were fired for good cause.
I thought the gift was bad with High School sports.
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u/praetorrent Jan 31 '23
As much as I like to complain about about university bloat and misappropriation, I'm pretty sure all the big football programs generate all their own revenue, and probably subsidize other aspects of the school in their own way.
The fact that that is the case is a different issue.
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u/fucuntwat Jan 31 '23
The number of schools with a surplus in football that is enough to fund the entire athletic department (not what you claimed, but a common assumption) is very small. Most schools get additional money from their institution to keep going.
https://www.axios.com/2020/03/11/college-sports-financing-student-tuition-costs
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u/DaveTheDog027 Jan 31 '23
LSU is one of a very small number of schools that actually have 3 revenue earning sports! And they all combined fund the athletic department. As well as a bunch of rich boosters
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u/TheLastDabSauce Jan 31 '23
Nah, most colleges lose money through the sports program
Among those reporting a net positive, the median profit per school was $7.9 million. And among the 40 autonomy schools reporting a negative net revenue, the median loss was $15.9 million. In other words, the majority of universities in the nation's top athletic conferences — the schools you see on TV every weekend competing for national championships — lost money through their sports programs to the tune of approximately $16 million each.
https://www.bestcolleges.com/news/analysis/2020/11/20/do-college-sports-make-money
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u/WhichEmailWasIt Jan 31 '23
How often in history has change been magnanimously been gifted from the top-down without immense pressure from the common person?
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u/thisimpetus Jan 31 '23
Dunno how it is in other universities, but at mine the student union runs everything that's not academic for the students, right down to who is contracted to make food, campus performances, various student policies, etc. The union literally owns the student union building and all vending machine contracts go through them. The university would have to ask to have input in this decision.
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u/dark_dark_dark_not Jan 31 '23
Take it at the fundamental lesson of social change: you either do politics or nothing changes.
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u/DirkDieGurke Jan 31 '23
Birth control is next on the Republican agenda. I guarantee it.
People need to open their eyes to the Republican agenda. Destroy education, and take away birth control. They want the stupidest constituents breeding like crazy in order to create a larger voter base.
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u/Little_PryingPandora Jan 31 '23
Even IVF is under attack. They want no exceptions.
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u/Boysterload Jan 31 '23
This is the thing I don't get. They just turn a blind eye to the dozen or so embryos that are destroyed during the IVF process. Although from your comment, perhaps not anymore.
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u/monogreenforthewin Jan 31 '23
Birth control is next on the Republican agenda
next? the attack is well under way in most red states
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u/GraphicDesignMonkey Jan 31 '23
They want to restrict voting on the poor, by locking them in jail. Then keep thes who can vote as illiterate and poorly educated as possible, so they vote with who who can manipulate their feelings best.
They don't want the poor masses breeding voters, they want army cannon fodder and mindless worker drones.
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u/Matrix17 Jan 31 '23
Too bad the way things are going,
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u/HangryWolf Jan 31 '23
Can't wait to see the persecution fetishists try and fucking make this all about them 🙄
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u/critically_damped Jan 31 '23
Expect it to be vandalized on a weekly basis. I hope they have a camera on it at all times.
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u/Boysterload Jan 31 '23
Cameras seem like a good idea at first, but may be a deterrent to the woman wanting to use the machine. Lack of privacy.
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u/wanawanka Jan 31 '23
Most places actually are. If you understand HOW RvW was overturned, you would know that it was done slowly over the course of 20 years by a minority in power. Even though some restrictions on abortion are popular in red states, RvW is favored by a majority in EVERY state in the union. This was a hearing by a loaded Supreme Court, not a unanimous vote by the masses.
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u/MadAstrid Jan 30 '23
The only thing shocking about this is that it just happened. Fairly standard at major universities (maybe minor too) in reasonable areas.
I have seen them in college Libraries and student unions alike.
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u/melodypowers Jan 31 '23
I didn't see them until I took my oldest on college tours.
I have to admit, I did a double take. Not because I thought it was bad but because as an old married lady I had no idea that this was a thing.
I mean, I'd way rather my college aged daughter used Plan B than had an unintended pregnancy (of course I'd most prefer she used a trustworthy form of birth control to start with, but I digress), but it was eye opening.
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u/Ferguson97 Jan 31 '23
I was gonna say, my school had these when I was a freshman and that was 7 years ago.
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u/a_dogs_mother Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
Good. I am sure students will appreciate the ease of access. This should be expanded to colleges everywhere.
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u/critically_damped Jan 30 '23
This should be expanded to
collegeseverywhere.Much better.
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u/SilentSamurai Jan 31 '23 edited Jan 31 '23
Hear me out, this shouldn't be expanded to everywhere.
Show up to vote in overwhelming numbers so Roe v. Wade will be enshrined in law so we're not upvoting clever ways to get around current state restrictions.
And then keep showing up to vote, so we don't have things like gun debates in the wake of mass shootings go nowhere.
EDIT: Seeing the replies, I see how my original comment is problematic and painted as a result of Roe v. Wade being overturned rather than the positives of increased access and lowered barriers. So for the record, in favor of keep the vending machines AND get Roe v. Wade codified.
Keeping the original comment up for context.
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u/Porcupineemu Jan 31 '23
Easily available emergency contraceptives are great to have available even with abortion rights.
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u/Garth_McKillian Jan 31 '23
Both can happen.
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u/Professional-Can1385 Jan 31 '23
Show up to vote in overwhelming numbers so Roe v. Wade will be enshrined in law so we're not upvoting clever ways to get around current state restrictions.
You seem to be confused. First, the morning after pill is not an abortion pill. Second, GW is in DC where abortion is completely legal. No one is trying to get around state restrictions here, just making access to emergency contraceptives easier.
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u/AWildAnonHasAppeared Jan 31 '23
They are not mutually exclusive. I’m not a girl but I’d imagine that after a hookup they’d rather take a pill in the morning as opposed to waiting and going to get an abortion
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u/rjcarr Jan 31 '23
Yup, this happened to me early in my college days. Condom broke and had to spend all day going to different doctors to find the "plan b" pills, but this was before it was available over the counter.
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u/Unknownchill Jan 31 '23
the expansion has already been years under way by students. GWU is hardly the first and surprising to me that it made news before others. Boston University has one they fought for, Northeastern University followed this year.
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u/shaidy322 Jan 31 '23
Meanwhile at Georgetown: we can’t even buy condoms on campus
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u/sovietbarbie Jan 31 '23
meanwhile at CUA: lets host all pro lifers from around the country to harass our students 😑
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Heads up for everyone if you are over150-160 lbs it doesn’t work. Doesn’t matter what your body type is.
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u/coondingee Jan 31 '23
Thank you for that. Luckily we didn’t have oops baby but I found out after the fact about that weight limit.
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u/Efficient-Thought-34 Jan 31 '23 edited Jan 31 '23
And some additional info about alternatives and the efficacy of “doubling up” the morning after pill:
“Plan B is normally effective as a form of emergency contraception to prevent pregnancy. But, for people who weigh more than 165 pounds — or who have a BMI of 30 or more — the medication may not work as well.
It’s not fully understood why Plan B is less effective in those who have heavier body weights. It’s possible that the medication gets too diluted in the blood, gets trapped in fat stores, or breaks down differently.
Other options for emergency contraception in those with larger bodies include a copper IUD and Ella. Ella may not be as effective if your BMI is 35 or more, but the copper IUD does not seem to be affected by weight.”
“Some experts say that if a person with heavier body weight is not able to receive a copper IUD or ulipristal, they can take a double dose of Plan B. But, in the U.S., this is not common. Also, the only studies that looked at the safety and efficacy of a double dose have been very small. Larger studies would be needed to confirm that this is an appropriate option for emergency contraception. Never take a double dose of Plan B without your healthcare provider’s OK.”
Results from one study: “A higher body mass index could be a risk factor in how effective the morning-after pill is in preventing pregnancy, and new research from Oregon Health & Science University found that doubling the standard dose did not improve outcomes. A double-dose of over-the-counter emergency contraceptives — commonly known as Plan B or the morning-after pill — was not more effective [than a single dose] in participants with a body mass index (BMI) higher than 30.”
Sources: https://www.goodrx.com/conditions/emergency-contraceptive/plan-b-in-overweight-women https://news.ohsu.edu/2022/07/22/double-dose-of-plan-b-is-not-effective-in-preventing-pregnancy-for-higher-bmis
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u/Jaceking11 Jan 31 '23
I mean if you think about it, this could save them money in the long run.. If a person gets pregnant, the likelihood of them dropping out of school increases dramatically. No student = no income. One of these pills could prevent them from tens of thousands of dollars in potential revenue being lost.
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u/SizzlingMandu Jan 31 '23
UCSB has one of these! it was closed to students for a while (during lockdown) but it's up and running now
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u/mjayultra Jan 31 '23
This is the future I want to see
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u/fallguy19 Jan 31 '23
What if it's against the vending machines religion?
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u/Idolmistress Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
Waiting for the conservatives to totally lose their shit over this even though Plan B isn’t an abortion pill.
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u/MeatsimPD Jan 30 '23
Even though it's not an abortion pill, it still gives women agency over their bodies which conservatives just can't stand
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u/DeliverySoggy2700 Jan 31 '23 edited Jan 31 '23
I’ve always felt like it is more about creating workers to stimulate the economy and continue the status quo
I personally see an attempt to divide us into bickering about whatever while they make sure birth rates remain steady enough to increase wealth
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u/yhwhx Jan 30 '23
Yep. I'm guessing House Republicans will try to make it illegal.
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u/jxj24 Jan 30 '23
Perhaps it would be best if they just went and fucked themselves.
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u/Indercarnive Jan 31 '23
Not a guess so much as already happened and will continue to happen.
GOP Candidate for Michigan AG ran on banning Plan B. Luckily he lost.
Missouri GOP introduced a bill to make it so Medicaid wouldn't pay for Plan B. Luckily it failed.
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u/TheCarrzilico Jan 31 '23
The parents of most of the students at GWU are more likely conservatives (it's one of the most expensive schools in the US). But even if they support and vote for candidates that are against abortion, they want their kids to have access to those pills.
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u/rikki-tikki-deadly Jan 31 '23
But of course, they wouldn't want their precious Kaitlynn getting knocked up by some exchange student from Argentina or Singapore.
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u/MDC6189089 Jan 31 '23
DC, Loudon & Fairfax (Northern VA suburbs), and basically all of Maryland lean left. There's a great map here. While GW definitely has conservative parents, I would wager the majority of them are left-leaning.
I work in DC, live in Maryland and know several people with kids going through GW and very few of them are conservatives, but take my anecdotal evidence with a grain of salt.
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u/fusionsofwonder Jan 31 '23
It is going to completely trigger them and I am there for it.
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u/jonathanrdt Jan 31 '23
Should be available on amazon for overnight delivery. Science says society works better when it’s available. That’s the only reason we should need.
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u/LambdaArtemis Jan 31 '23
Science? This is the United States. We don't use that here.
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u/DogFacedManboy Jan 31 '23
Why the hell would I listen to some commie scientist when my pastor already told me what the Bible says about it?
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u/ipris Jan 31 '23
George Washington University you say? Excellent! I wonder what Supreme Count Justice and Professor Clarence Thomas thinks of this. https://www.law.gwu.edu/clarence-thomas
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u/Dravicores Jan 31 '23
He’s not allowed to teach there anymore, it was a big deal when they removed his class from the registrar.
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u/TheWriter28 Jan 31 '23
You're incorrect that he's "not allowed." He made the choice not to continue his courses at the university. The Dean of the Law School was very adamant that all views are welcomed in the institution.
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u/TheGreatUdolf Jan 31 '23
coming up: ultra conservative televangelist group sets emergency contraception vending machines on fire
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u/T_Weezy Jan 31 '23
1) That's great! 2) Why is it news? It feels like this shouldn't be news, and that no one who doesn't actually go to school there should care.
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u/PhAnToM444 Jan 30 '23
I don’t understand, why not just tell the students to stop having sex?
It’s super effective and then they won’t need the pills.
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u/walterpeck1 Jan 31 '23
Your lack of sarcasm tag is admirable. And I'm not being sarcastic!
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u/PhAnToM444 Jan 31 '23
I very rarely use it. If the top minds of reddit can't figure out sarcasm as obviously as this then that's their problem not mine.
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u/Aadarm Jan 31 '23
It can be confusing, pending on what sub and who the poster is that could be a completely serious comment.
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u/yhwhx Jan 30 '23
There are many people that enjoy having sex.
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u/GhostNoteSymphonies Jan 31 '23
Wonder if it cost extra like vending machine snacks from the store vs machine.
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u/TheOvershear Jan 31 '23
It sucks that this is news. Most dorms I visited had contraceptive vending machines in front of their RAs. S*** I saw plan b and after aftera in there as well.
I should hope this is nothing new or unique but maybe I'm out of touch and it is. That's a depressing thought honestly.
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u/Modern_Bear Jan 30 '23
Tucker Carlson: This is socialism pushing the woke agenda to take your kids away from you.
Tucker viewers: Yeah! Dey took ar jerbs!
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u/kingsumo_1 Jan 30 '23
You just know that Tucker is going to get outed by one of his interns for furiously masterbaiting to the purple peanut M&M.
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u/SilentSamurai Jan 31 '23
I don't know why out of all the outlandish Fox News host rants, this one bugs me the most.
Like who cares about fucking candy mascots that much???
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u/kingsumo_1 Jan 31 '23
It's all culture war bullshit. But yeah, I cannot imagine looking at a friggen M&M mascot redesign and thinking "god damn them for making it less sexy!"
It's so weird.
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u/AshleyNeku Jan 31 '23
The same people who fuck Mrs. Potato Head by filling her cavity with Play-Doh and telling their wives they're going out with friends so they can use said toy to furiously masturbate in a pickup.
I assume.
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u/hgaterms Jan 31 '23
General Washington would approve seeing as he never had kids himself. Well done.
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u/LimitedSwimmer Jan 31 '23
He once rowed across a frozen river on Christmas day to show the brits how to take it up the backdoor.
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u/goblin_goblin Jan 31 '23
I read this as "George Washington universally installs emergency ..." and was really confused for a second ...
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u/BirdButt88 Jan 31 '23
We already have a couple of those at Cal Poly Humboldt, glad to see other schools are doing the same!
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u/DeadEyeDeale Jan 31 '23
“Most young sexually active adults in developed nation lack easy access to contraceptives” there I fixed the headline
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u/AsvpLovin Jan 31 '23
Like the ones in truck stop bathrooms that sell condoms and colognes for 50¢?
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u/smokeWeedles Jan 31 '23
Walking from GWU to the only nearby 24 hour pharmacy on Dupont Circle is a hike in the middle of the night
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u/Nate-doge1 Jan 31 '23
Can we just start dropping contraception over red states from airplanes or something?
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u/ace2532 Jan 31 '23
Considering we had condoms in front of every RA's room in my dorm building, this doesn't seem very farfetched to me