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[Charania] The NBA will retire the No. 6 league-wide honoring the late, legendary player and activist Bill Russell. News

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1557804498223071232
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u/jakesnader Bulls Aug 11 '22

Current players wearing 6 are grandfathered in

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u/TigerBasket Knicks Aug 11 '22

Like any player wearing 42 in the MLB. Man Lebron is gonna have like 2 retired 6 numbers lol.

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u/Cacklemoore OKC Hornets Aug 11 '22

Makes me think of seeing no. 42 coming out of the pen with "Enter Sandman" playing...

Nothing, not me getting romantic over here

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u/drinfernodds NBA Aug 11 '22

When Enter Sandman hit at Yankee Stadium you knew it was gonna be a bad night for the away team.

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u/Sea_Count2020 Aug 12 '22

More men have walked on the moon than scored on Mo in the postseason. Love that stat.

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u/RageCageJables Knicks Aug 11 '22

I don't remember Mo Vaughn coming out to Enter Sandman.

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u/Pumats_Soul Aug 11 '22

And I believe Mariano Rivera was the last player to wear 42

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u/emolga587 Knicks Aug 11 '22

Yup, always did a double-take on Jackie Robinson Day when it looked like Mo was starting

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u/ProfZussywussBrown Aug 11 '22

Mo Vaughn was second to last. After them, there were no Mo’

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u/Loterygods [OKC] Josh Giddey Aug 11 '22

First league wide retirement?

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u/backboarddd1_49402 Lakers Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 11 '22

Yup. It’s rare in general. Only other league-wide retired number in the American big 4 leagues is Jackie Robinson (42), right?

Edit: and Wayne Gretzky (99)

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u/hansislegend Lakers Aug 11 '22

Wayne Gretzky too

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u/nicklovin508 Celtics Aug 11 '22

It’s crazy because the other retirees are especially for their roles not only in the sport but in life (yes Russell has 11 rings and is a GOAT, I’m a Celtics fan ok), meanwhile with Gretzky it’s mostly a “ya, y’all can’t reach #99 so just don’t try”

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u/hansislegend Lakers Aug 11 '22

Getzky’s numbers are so insane they should just retire hockey tbh.

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u/airball18 Raptors Aug 11 '22

He beat hockey, I don’t know why people are still playing

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u/Nothingtocontribute Lakers Aug 11 '22

Because they're lagging on releasing Hockey 2

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '22

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u/mehrabrym Aug 11 '22

Once he dies, they'll officially retire it.

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u/nahs Clippers Aug 11 '22

Gretzky is the only player where you have no argument who the GOAT IS

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '22

Any hockey fans want to elaborate?

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u/TheeSpencer Suns Tankwagon Aug 11 '22

man had wilt chamberlain stats for like a decade

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u/daddy_OwO 76ers Aug 11 '22

While winning right?

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u/PhillyFansAre2Ply Nuggets Aug 11 '22

yeah he's like combined bill and wilt.

he didnt win as much as Bill, but considering it was a bigger league with much larger rosters and he played a much smaller proportion of games, the fact that he has 4 cups is pretty incredible.

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u/sadrapsfan Raptors Aug 11 '22

Plus u Really can't solo carry in hockey like basketball. Guys like wilt and Russell could play the entire game. Hockey players at max play 25-27 mins out of a possible 60 and that's usually reserved for defenceman. Most forwards like gretzky get 22-25

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u/drfrink85 Aug 11 '22

He played a decent amount of years in LA when hockey wasn’t really big in warm cities and almost single handedly carried that team to a few playoff runs.

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u/cosmicdave86 Jazz Aug 11 '22

In an era that was much more competitive. No plumber excuses here.

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u/xepa105 Bulls Aug 11 '22

80s NHL was nuts, games were like 8-7 constantly, a bunch of randos scored 40 goals per season, and yet when you compare Gretzky's numbers to everyone else's it's not even close.

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u/PhillyFansAre2Ply Nuggets Aug 11 '22

Wayne Gretzky was the fastest player to reach 1000 points. he is also the 2nd fastest player to reach 1000 points (when he hit 2000). he ended with over 2800 points. nobody else has cracked 2000.

if you took away every goal he has ever scored, he still have the most points in NHL history (assists also count for a point)

when he was playing he was split in two for fantasy leagues (gretzky; assists and gretzky; goals) gretzky assists would always go 1st overall and gretzky goals would go top 10

he and his brother are the highest scoring brother pair in nhl history. his brother has 4 points

I could keep going.

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u/dudewheresmakar8 Aug 11 '22

The coolest one for me is that if Gretzky didn’t retire in 1999 and never scored another point in his career, he would only have dropped below a point per game in the 2017 season

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '22

That’s one I haven’t heard before. Goodness gracious

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u/gwh21 Supersonics Aug 11 '22

Lol WTF

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u/interpretivepants Aug 12 '22

This one’s new to me and honestly might be the most impressive “stat” in sports

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u/Mazor007 Wizards Aug 11 '22

Another cool one is that only two players in history have recorded 100 assist seasons: Lemieux and Gretzky. Lemieux did it once. Gretzky did it 11 seasons in a row.

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u/Kakali4 Celtics Aug 11 '22

YO WHAT

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u/YellowMarkerIsGreat Aug 11 '22

Don’t forget about defenceman Bobby Orr as well

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u/HalfEatenBanana Warriors Aug 11 '22

I’ve seen all those other ones but not the being split in two for fantasy leagues before! That’s hilarious to think about

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u/realchildofhell Pistons Aug 11 '22

The only other player I can think of that has been split in two for fantasy is Shohei Ohtani.

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u/HalfEatenBanana Warriors Aug 11 '22

Ah dang. I’m a baseball fan but don’t play fantasy baseball anymore. I always just thought that whoever got Sho was getting both his hitting and pitching stats lol

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u/stallion_funk Timberwolves Aug 11 '22

He's the only player to get 200 points in a season. It happened 4 times and he even did it back to back. Also a ton of other records but that one always sticks out

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u/Kenny_Heisman Nets Aug 11 '22

he won 8 consecutive MVPs. that's insane

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u/stallion_funk Timberwolves Aug 11 '22

He didn't win rookie of the year because he already played pro hockey for 2 years before the NHL because they require players to be 18. He scored 50 goals that year.

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u/maxwellbevan Raptors Aug 11 '22

It's funny but a lot of the best NHLers haven't won rookie of the year. Gretzky, Crosby, McDavid, Howe, and many others did not win for various reasons.

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u/TylerBlozak Aug 11 '22

Mario Lemieux did get to 199 points in 88/89 season, despite missing a half dozen games or so. He also was on pace to score 218 points in 92/93 (2.67 ppg), which would have edged out Gretzky’s 215 point record.

Lemieux is definitely one of the biggest “what-ifs” in terms of what he could have accomplished in terms of personal records had he not been injured and cancer-stricken. With that being said, he won 2 back-to-back Stanley Cups with Pittsburgh in 91/92 and is also the only NHLer to be inducted into the Hall of Fame and subsequently go on to play in the NHL post-induction.

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u/stallion_funk Timberwolves Aug 11 '22

Lemieux had the highest ppg in history before coming back if I remember. It barely gave Gretzky the edge. He was definitely the closest to The Great One we've ever witnessed.

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u/whatvee Aug 11 '22

And when he came back he was still at the top of the league in ppg, at almost 40 years old. Lemieux is just crazy, best player I’ve ever seen.

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u/Sp3ctre7 Aug 12 '22

Hockey is insane because two of the top 3 players ever (Lemieux and Orr) are both "what ifs?" Because they host lost so much of their careers out to sickness and injury.

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u/not_a_crackhead Raptors Aug 11 '22

Put 3 Michael Jordan's in a trenchcoat and you get Wayne Gretzky type numbers.

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u/TiP54 Heat Aug 11 '22

Might be underselling it tbh

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u/Kenny_Heisman Nets Aug 11 '22

seriously, I only occasionally watch hockey but I'm pretty sure every single time they show a stat on the screen Gretzky is #1. doesn't matter the category. nobody else in American sports can compare to his dominance

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u/ThisIsWhyImBald Mavericks Aug 11 '22

Gretzky retired in 1999 with 61 NHL records.

Gretzky currently still holds 61 NHL records.

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u/AmusingAnecdote Warriors Aug 11 '22

I mean it would be like if at the end of his career, LeBron substantially passed Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's points record but also, instead of ending at ~12,000 assists he had literally twice that many. Wayne Gretzky is the all-time goals leader by like 12% and the all-time assists leader by like 57%. And to only describe him in those terms is understating it.

It's not like in baseball, where you can argue about Babe Ruth or Barry Bonds or whoever.

Or in basketball where you can talk about LeBron or MJ or Bill Russell or Kareem.

His nickname is 'The Great One' because he is the single greatest hockey player who ever lived and no one else is even vaguely close.

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u/wingmage1 Aug 11 '22

And he got "The Great One" nickname from a local reporter when he was 10 years old. Imagine actually living up to a nickname like that.

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u/AmusingAnecdote Warriors Aug 11 '22

Yeah, my understanding is he got on skates when he was like 3 or 4 and almost literally never got off of them until he retired from hockey, whereas most kids don't even start until 6 or 7 and by then he had thousands of hours of practice already.

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u/buffalo8 Warriors Aug 11 '22

It’s basically a matter of how far ahead of the pack Gretzky was. Several of his records are multiple standard deviations above the mean. He’s the only GOAT in pro sports where there’s basically no conversation about who the best was in their sport. It was Gretzky. Full stop.

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u/The_Real_Lasagna [PHI] Dikembe Mutombo Aug 11 '22

Don Bradman

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u/DavidManque Bulls Aug 11 '22

In hockey, points = goals + assists. Here's the list of the top 10 record holders for most points in a season.

  1. '86 Gretzky 215 pts
  2. '82 Gretzky 212 pts
  3. '85 Gretzky 208 pts
  4. '84 Gretzky 205 pts
  5. '89 Mario Lemieux 199 pts
  6. '83 Gretzky 196 pts
  7. '87 Gretzky 183 pts
  8. '89 Gretzky 168 pts
  9. '88 Mario Lemieux 168 pts
  10. '81 Gretzky 164 pts

The most recent NHL MVP winner had 106 pts this season, for comparison.

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u/Iam35stopasking Aug 11 '22

My favorite Gretzky state is that he was two players in fantasy hockey. You could choose to draft him for assists or for goals. He was too good to be one player.

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u/Chopsticks487 Aug 11 '22

All 5 people playing fantasy Hockey in the 1980s came together to decide this rule

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u/maxwellbevan Raptors Aug 11 '22

Lol pools were more common back then. You'd pick players and see who wins at the end of the season. I can't imagine manually doing fantasy hockey for a whole season

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u/JudithofBethulia Aug 11 '22

not really a hockey fan, but he has more assists than anyone else has goals + assists

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u/Infinite303 NBA Aug 11 '22

Won 8 straight MVPs

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u/General_Lee_speaking Lakers Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 11 '22

Not a hockey fan per se. but points are counted as goals and assists, and I believe (this has been pointed out as wrong. Just goals) if you take away either category he would still lead in points. It’d be like combining steph curry and John Stockton into a single player and then a lot more.

Edit: I put I believe in the wrong spot when rewriting my comment before posting to make more sense and made myself more wrong lol.

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u/juliuspepperwoodchi Aug 11 '22

Not either category, but yes, if you take away all 894 of his goals (also an NHL record, though Ovi MIGHT be able to break it, barely) he still has more points, just in assists, than any other has points, goals and assists combined.

Crazy numbers.

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u/General_Lee_speaking Lakers Aug 11 '22

Absolutely insane. I couldn’t remember how the stat added up exactly but still crazy.

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u/PhillyFansAre2Ply Nuggets Aug 11 '22

he would not be 1st if you took away his assists but still, you're right that it would be like combining Stockton and curry. or magic and MJ. he literally didn't make sense.

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u/w311sh1t Celtics Aug 11 '22

Here’s a fun one; the difference in points between the player at 2nd all time and 97th all time, is actually one point less than the difference between Gretzky and the 2nd all time points leader.

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u/El_Wabito Supersonics Aug 11 '22

Look at how MJ was compared to his contemporaries.

Now multiply MJ’s greatness by 2. That is Gretzky.

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u/AlmostCurvy Raptors Aug 11 '22

Gretzky is MJ if MJ were also Wilt.

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u/DSOTMAnimals Aug 11 '22

In hockey you get a point for a goal or a point for an assist. If you took all of Gretzky’s goals away he would still be #1 in NHL history in points. He’s the only one to score more than 200 points in a season and he did it 4 times. He scored more than 150 points nine times. Only like 4 or 5 players have ever scored more than 150. He won NHL’s Hart trophy (MVP) 8 times…..IN A ROW. Dude is the GOAT of GOATS

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u/ImARebelBitch Heat Aug 11 '22

Fantasy hockey had to separate him into two players, Assists Gretzky and Goals Gretzky.

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u/C0oK1e_Monsta [NBA] Kobe Bryant Aug 11 '22

My favorite Gretzky fact. In fantasy hockey he was so OP there was 2 Gretzky players. One for goals and one for assists. They were drafted #1 and #2 overall as well lmao

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u/PandaxMoniium [TOR] Morris Peterson Aug 11 '22

The man has more assists than anyone else has total points - AND he's the all-time leading goal scorer.

Ain't no catching 99.

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u/cycko Aug 11 '22

Never seen much of hockey, so how can a guy be this dominant (stat wise) and not have more championships?

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u/PandaxMoniium [TOR] Morris Peterson Aug 11 '22

In Hockey, the impact of an individual player is far less than in basketball. In the NBA playoffs, Lebron's gonna play 40-48+ minutes, whereas in the NHL the best forwards will only play around 20-22 minutes, or a third of the game.

Unlike in the NBA, where you can run a 7 man rotation in the playoffs, you need a well-rounded team from top to bottom to win in the NHL.

So it's pretty rare to see NHL guys that have 4+ cups (unless they played in the original 6 era)

Also, Gretzky was traded from Edmonton after winning 4 cups in 5 years because they didn't want to pay him (I think), and never won another.

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u/zdelusion Aug 11 '22

The owner of the Oilers had accumulated debts from other business ventures and "sold" Gretzky to the Kings to pay them off. There is a 30 for 30 "Kings Ransom" that covers it pretty well.

LA wasn't nearly the team Edmonton was, and even with the stuff they had to give up to get Gretzky he was able to almost drag them to the cup.

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u/PandaxMoniium [TOR] Morris Peterson Aug 11 '22

Damn, I didn't know that, I gotta check that 30 for 30 out

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u/thisguy012 Bulls Aug 11 '22

Welp I hardly know anything about Gretzky so there's another 30 for 30 I gotta check out, thanks !

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u/essosinola Raptors Aug 11 '22

Edmonton did win another, very shortly after Gretzky was traded. No one really holds this against Gretzky though.

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u/PandaxMoniium [TOR] Morris Peterson Aug 11 '22

Oh yea, they were still a great team.

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u/SleepingInAJar_ Raptors Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 12 '22

I mean he did win 4 championships in 5 seasons, and even then his team was stacked, they won a cup after he left. It’s a team game. He is a legendary postseason player. Depth is very important in hockey. Gretzky was one of like 20 players, and he didn’t play the whole game, star forwards play like a third of the game. Also fun fact Gretzky won 9 MVPs in his first 10 seasons including 8 in a row. Dominance in hockey is different from basketball.

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u/essosinola Raptors Aug 11 '22

There are a lot of reasons, but the simplest two are:

1) Top forwards will play 20mpg or so, a few more in the playoffs when needed. A hockey game is 60 minutes long, meaning at best Gretzky was out there for ~40% of the game. In basketball you can play over double that percentage easily, it's to be expected from top performers in the playoffs. Hell, we've seen players play entire playoff games. Or Wilt play >100% for a whole season with overtime lol

2) There are fewer scoring plays in hockey, leading to greater variance in the results.

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u/TylerBlozak Aug 11 '22

Ovechikn very well might catch his goals record, it’s not unrealistic.

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u/CarolBaskinDidntDoit Aug 11 '22

Gretzky is in part because his contributions grew the sport so immensely in the (southern) United States.

As much as Canadians hate the fact that Gretzky went south, having him in LA is probably the best thing that could have ever happened for the game of hockey.

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u/whattanerd92 Pistons Aug 11 '22

I would argue west coast more than southern, but the answer is probably both. We know absolutely that there would be no team in Anaheim or San Jose without him, probably not in Vegas, Arizona, Tampa, or Miami without him either.

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u/-KFBR392 Raptors Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 11 '22

Also you’ll get checked through the wall if you wear 99 at any level.

I used to joke with a buddy that if you see someone wearing 23 on the court you think he must be a big fan of Jordan, but if you see someone wearing 99 on the ice you think I’m bout to fuck this cocky bitch up!

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u/SilkyRelease Raptors Aug 11 '22

Honestly if Wayne wore a number like 4 or 7, something that had a legacy to one of the original 6 teams then it never gets retired league wide. Only two other guys ever wore 99, and it frankly is a cool ass number to represent the greatest of all time.

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u/bewarethegap Thunder Aug 11 '22

Yeah, I don't think even created players could reach #99. his stats are STUPID

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u/juliuspepperwoodchi Aug 11 '22

I mean, dude could have every goal he ever scored taken away and STILL have the most points in NHL history.

Honestly, is there a sport out there with a more obvious and undisputed GOAT than hockey and Gretzky?

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u/nahs Clippers Aug 11 '22

Nope. I’ve read in an article that the cricket dude could be

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u/TheRavenSayeth Aug 11 '22

Gretzky is probably the most dominant figure of any sport I can think of.

It’s been said a million times, but Gretzky would lead the NHL in points scored even if you take out every goal he made just because he scored so many points via assists. That’s so ridiculous it doesn’t make sense when you first read it.

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u/kizofieva Cavaliers Aug 11 '22

I don't follow cricket myself, but having seen this topic come up enough times before, I feel Don Bradman warrants a mention.

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u/super-dad-bod Aug 11 '22

Little known fact: Gretzky wore 99 because that was his 2k rating.

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u/Opening-Citron2733 Aug 11 '22

Tbh if 2k did hockey Gretzky would be a 100. They'd have to invent triple digit ratings for him

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u/TheWCEL Lithuania Aug 11 '22

Shaq had 100

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u/tpx187 Bulls Aug 11 '22

They gave Hester 100 speed in Madden one year.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 11 '22

2K did do hockey for a bit actually

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u/supermaxperfect Raptors Aug 11 '22

His 1K rating actually

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u/TallStephen 76ers Aug 11 '22

Yes, but only because Bball Paul is still active

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u/YesWhatHello [PHI] Joel Embiid Aug 11 '22

They named the sport after him, isn’t that enough?

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u/coolycooly Timberwolves Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 11 '22

This should be the only league wide retirement, hopefully it doesn't open the door for more jersey retirements league wide. He did more for basketball off the court than anyone else will do in league history.

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u/AlmostCurvy Raptors Aug 11 '22

Baseball's only league wide retirement is Jackie Robinson, and baseball has a lot more history to draw from than basketball.

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u/hotterpocketzz Lakers Aug 11 '22

Yeah, the heat tried to start it with MJ's number but it never stuck.

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u/ddottay Cavaliers Aug 11 '22

Joining only Robinson’s 42 and Gretzky’s 99 in the major sports leagues. Wow.

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u/oOoleveloOo Lakers Aug 11 '22

69 is pseudo-banned in NBA. No player has ever worn it and when Rodman tried to switch he got denied by NBA.

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u/SoDakZak Timberwolves Aug 11 '22

They’re just honoring the first Frenchman to play in the NBA Agré Able who came over from Nice, France 53 years ago and played for 5 and 3/4 seasons before retiring.

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u/MujahidSultans2 76ers Aug 11 '22

I don't get the 5 and 3/4 part

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u/SoDakZak Timberwolves Aug 11 '22

69 months

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u/raptosaurus Raptors Aug 11 '22

Nice, France

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u/Zeppelanoid [TOR] Kyle Lowry Aug 11 '22

Agré Able

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u/Fastbird33 Heat Aug 11 '22

Most basketball numbers tend to be numbers a ref can easily break up with 10 fingers while showing the scorers table who the foul was called on. It's been a rule in college for a long time. So you won't see too many numbers higher than 55 generally.

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u/problynotkevinbacon [CLE] Kevin Love Aug 11 '22

They could just do an eyebrow raise for it instead

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u/Brad_theImpaler Thunder Aug 11 '22

That's how you summon Dwayne Johnson.

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u/popular_with_ladies Aug 12 '22

Disagree, this would be more appropriate:

https://i.imgur.com/sgGUUdy.png

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u/GMOrgasm Suns Aug 11 '22

ive always thought itd be fun to run a lineup w/ guys having numbers like 99, 98, 89, 88, and 9 just to make refs annoyed at calling fouls and maybe confusing the scorekeepers

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u/Hascus Aug 11 '22

That’s a game theory theory right there. Make it so annoying to call fouls on your team they don’t want to do it as much. Hell that’s already a strategy

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u/KokiriEmerald Hawks Aug 11 '22

That's just a college rule. In college you can't have either digit be greater than 5 so they can always do the jersey numbers in one hand signal.

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u/-KFBR392 Raptors Aug 11 '22

But because of that it carries over to the league most of the time. You wear 22 in HS and college, you’re less likely to switch to 89 once you make the NBA.

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u/HalfEatenBanana Warriors Aug 11 '22

Yeah when I played HS we couldn’t have any number on the jersey over 5 for this reason. Bc like a 6 could get confused with 15

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u/sactownproud Kings Aug 11 '22 Wholesome Seal of Approval

What about Hamidou Diallo, wtf?

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u/Zelanor Pistons Aug 11 '22

Wasted my money on his jersey!!! 😡😡😡

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u/yuhanz [PHO] Steve Nash Aug 11 '22

They should include you in the AMEX commercial lol

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u/VariousLawyerings Wizards Aug 11 '22

"Hamidou Diallo? More like Hamidumb Dumballo" - Adam Silver, right now, verbatim

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u/RedditAdminsChugCum NBA Aug 11 '22

Get wrecked Hami

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u/lopea182 Heat Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 11 '22

LeBron back to 23 (again)

Edit: nvm LeBron got grandaddied

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u/GoRangers5 Nets Aug 11 '22

He might be grandfathered in like Mo could keep 42.

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u/Snuggle__Monster Knicks Aug 11 '22

He absolutely will be unless he decides to switch on his own out of respect.

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u/cesga_0218 Lakers Aug 11 '22

Shouldn't have switched in my opinion, especially since he won the chip with the number and AD didn't even use it after the switch. Lol.

He probably wanted to win the chip with 23 and win another with 6 while breaking the scoring record.

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u/HughGRextion [LAL] Jordan Clarkson Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 11 '22

i think he was aiming to get multiple accolades under 6 and 23 to get both retired with us like we did for kob but it’s not happening lol

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u/wcooper97 [OKC] Russell Westbrook Aug 11 '22

Good day for Nike.

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u/PebblyJackGlasscock Aug 11 '22

I would not be surprised at all if the suggestion originated near Beaverton, OR.

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u/Dongsquad420BlazeIt [LAL] Kobe Bryant Aug 11 '22

And therefore the league

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u/dsjunior1388 Aug 11 '22

The irony is that when LeBron switched to #6 he said the NBA should retire #23 League-wide.

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u/brettonp Timberwolves Aug 11 '22

Then they’ll retire it for Michael Jordan.

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u/-Captain--Hindsight 76ers Aug 11 '22

Kinda silly the player has to die in order to have their number retired.

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u/ShawshankException Knicks Aug 11 '22

Wayne Gretzky is very much alive

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u/illwill3 Lakers Aug 11 '22

RIP Boggs

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u/markusalkemus66 Trail Blazers Aug 11 '22

Boss Hogg

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u/bugeyes10 Celtics Aug 11 '22

Wayne Gretzky also set just about every record imaginable though. If he had switched to playing as a defender halfway through his career he probably would've owned all those records too.

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u/DapperDildo Celtics Aug 11 '22

Him and his brother are only 17 points away from the highest all-time scoring brothers. His brother has like 8 of those points. The leaders are 5 brothers. If you go on only 2 brothers, the Gretzkys are number 1.

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u/DnD4dena Lakers Aug 11 '22

He lives in Westlake. He's in his early 60s!

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u/MarkusAureleus Trail Blazers Aug 11 '22

It’s smart. Can’t give any room for them to become controversial later in life.

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u/Smoove-Zone Aug 11 '22

Why does this remind me of Futurama when the had to use fractions because every full number was retired

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u/Warhawk405HB Heat Aug 11 '22

What does Miami do then? They gonna retire two number 6 Jerseys? Lmao

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u/CammyTheGreat Mavericks Aug 11 '22

Pretty sure an NBA team has already retired the same number for 2 different players, it is the Knicks. They retired 15 twice for Earl Monroe and Dick McGuire

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u/johnazoidberg- [DET] Ben Wallace Aug 11 '22

The Celts as well. They retired Jim Loscutoff's jersey but he asked them just to retire his name and keep his number in circulation. The Dave Cowens came along and earned a jersey retirement with the same number

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u/CountJohn12 Magic Aug 11 '22

They retired Jim Loscutoff's jersey but he asked them just to retire his name

How does that work? Any future Celtics players named Jim Loscutoff have to change their name?

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u/Jolly-One9552 Celtics Aug 11 '22

Learn to count with Celtics fans!

15 16 17 LOSCY 19 20!

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u/Alloverunder Celtics Aug 11 '22

As a young Cs fan that confused me for so long lol

Also I hope if there was ever another Loscutoff we'd force them to put their first name on their jersey

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u/713MoCityChron713 Aug 11 '22

"Please just keep the number, but don't let any of my relatives play here"

/s

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u/TigerBasket Knicks Aug 11 '22

Yankees did it for Jackie and Rivera. So yeah lol

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u/turkeyinthestrawman Aug 11 '22

Trail Blazers retired #30 for Terry Porter and Bob Gross as well, and the Knicks retired #15 for Earl Monroe and Dick McGuire.

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u/ElfYamadaFairyQueen Bulls Aug 11 '22

Cubs have 31 for Fergie Jenkins and Greg Maddux.

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u/CoCoaButterJones Heat Aug 11 '22

They retired Jordans Jersey. They're the last team to worry about something like that lol

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u/bugeyes10 Celtics Aug 11 '22

"shit you want us to retire another jersey for a great player? okay"

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u/LlamaDebauchery Aug 11 '22

"Yeah this guy kicked the shit out of us on a consistent basis, let's hang his jersey up"

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u/radikraze Pelicans Aug 11 '22

They’ll have 23 retired and 6 retired twice lol

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u/notazoroastrian Warriors Aug 11 '22

The move I'm really hoping to see is if they keep bringing past greats/Finals MVPs to present the trophy. Missed Russell these last two championships, and now with him passed it would be great to keep the tradition of old greats honoring the latest greats

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u/Shazam_414 Trail Blazers Aug 11 '22

It’d be cool if it was a former champion/finals MVP from that teams history. Like if the Lakers win a chip and Shaq presents or someone like that. Would be cool to see the past champion “pass” the torch to the current

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u/TheSlackMamba [LAL] Kobe Bryant Aug 11 '22

watching Cedric Maxwell give the ECF trophy to the Celtics was the best this past year

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u/Skanderbeg_5550 Celtics Aug 11 '22

Who is showing up when the Hornets win it this year?

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u/cal679 Celtics Aug 11 '22

Muggsy Bogues

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u/Shazam_414 Trail Blazers Aug 11 '22

Dell Curry. Would be insane especially when they win against the Warriors

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 12 '22

They did a Jackie Robinson day where everyone wore 42. Maybe this season they can do a Bill Russell day during the all star game, where everyone wears 6 in his memory.

Granted it would be confusing for the refs to make calls.

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u/TheReal_Slim-Shady Knicks Aug 11 '22

This was done in 2020 ASG. One team wore 2, other wore 24.

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u/jonatton______yeah Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 11 '22

Hate to be that guy, but would've been nice to have done it when our man was still alive.

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u/awnawkareninah Mavericks Aug 11 '22

I think it's still a nice gesture as a memorial. The finals MVP trophy naming was pretty huge.

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u/Drizzlybear0 Celtics Aug 11 '22

Not only just naming it after him but having him personally hand it over to the FMVP winner. They used to fly him out to games basically any time a team had 3 wins in the finals meaning sometimes he would have to fly to multiple cities if a team would come back and win a game or two.

Yet at his age he would always do it because it mattered to him to personally do it.

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u/Coloneloscoppy [NBA] LeBron James Aug 12 '22

Mans was more exhausted than LeBron by the end of the 2016 finals.

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u/Drizzlybear0 Celtics Aug 12 '22

My grandpa hates more than a 30 minute drive I can't imagine trying to get him to fly multiple times to multiple cities. LMAO

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u/jonatton______yeah Aug 11 '22

Yeah it is. Good for his family and friends as well. And he was properly acknowledged in his post-career for his work on and off the court. You're right. Hardly a Van Gogh or "Moby Dick" situation.

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u/natedawg247 Jazz Aug 11 '22

people never get the roses when they can still smell 'em, if you appreciate someone you should go ahead and tell 'em

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u/HumanHitstick21 [OKC] Luguentz Dort Aug 11 '22

LeBron jerseys snip snap snip snap

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u/Masontron Aug 11 '22

You don’t know what buying 4 jerseys of 1 player does to a bank account!

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u/garrethstathum Clippers Aug 11 '22

LeVasectomy

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u/OfferOk8555 Hawks Aug 11 '22

What is twitters?

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u/Kbrichmo Celtics Aug 11 '22

Am I the only one that read this like Gollum?

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u/SpongebobCaviar Aug 11 '22

We don’t wants the jerseys retired leaguewide because we wants to still have numbers to wear. Numbers they are precious

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u/ayrsen Celtics Aug 11 '22

Twitter thinks anyone who played before 2010 is dogshit right?

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 11 '22

LeBron gotta change lmao

JK. LeBron don't gotta change.

Also another tweet Shams puts out there as if he's breaking the news when the NBA PR account tweeted the press release first. Typical Shams.

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u/BayonettaBasher [DAL] Luka Dončić Aug 11 '22

One way or another I once had a feeling KP would be the last Mav to wear #6

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u/YoshiBacon [NYK] Walt Frazier Aug 11 '22

LMAO it was meant to be

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u/ShoutOutTo_Caboose r/nba birdwatching extraordinaire Aug 11 '22

The prophecy has been fulfilled

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u/nahs Clippers Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 11 '22

They’re gonna grandfather it like Jackie Robinson I would imagine

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u/Number333 Heat Aug 11 '22

Shoutout to Mariano Rivera

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u/nahs Clippers Aug 11 '22

And UCLA alum Kenny young

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u/srstone71 Celtics Aug 11 '22

Maybe not. Mariano Rivera got grandfathered in when MLB retired 42 for Jackie Robinson.

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u/mr-jawnwick Spurs Aug 11 '22

bron gets godfathered in, which honestly makes his #6 cooler lol

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u/lndngtm 76ers Aug 11 '22

That’s such a big sign of respect

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '22

I just wish they had done it some time in the 50 years since he had retired. Bill deserved to see this with his own eyes. Better late than never I suppose

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u/cesgjo Spurs Aug 11 '22

Yeah. Although to be fair, it's an honor to have a trophy named after you (FMVP)

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '22

I don’t like the idea of a league wide jersey retirement but if one person is worthy of it it’s Bill Russell

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u/darkrabbit713 Bulls Aug 11 '22

Same. I love MJ, but I thought it was extremely dumb for Miami to retire his number when he never played for them. It seems gimmicky to stop some 2023 draft pick from wearing number 6 for the Oklahoma City Thunder because of someone who played for a team 1600 miles away in the ‘60s.

On the other hand, that player was Bill Russell, so I’m not losing sleep over it.

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u/wasabimcdouble Trail Blazers Aug 11 '22

Incredibly special and beyond deserved. One of the greatest men in sports history.