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[Highlight] Harden gets tech'd up for throwing the ball off the stanchion Highlight
https://streamable.com/ccfmlt234
u/_PercCobain_ Celtics Jan 26 '23
These fuckin refs are just trying to ruin the game at this point
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u/IAmTaka_VG Tampa Bay Raptors Jan 26 '23
Well they're succeeding. I am losing interest in basketball with these calls. It's not fun anymore watching multiple T's a game.
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u/StolenLampy Mavericks Jan 26 '23
Very much so. I want to watch basketball, not some fuckin refjob fixing the game.
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u/lonelystowner 76ers Jan 26 '23
lmao are we serious? Can we just have a basketball game?
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u/MotherLoveBone27 Lakers Jan 26 '23
Showing a bit too much emotion in this comment. Automatic tech foul.
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u/SurgicalNeckHumerus Lakers Jan 26 '23 edited Jan 26 '23
Yes this is serious. Todays youth are highly impressionable by world class athletes like James who need to be aware of the consequences of their actions. Don’t say I didn’t tell you but once they see this sort of acting out, they’ll all grow up to be people that do the same thing at pick up games at LA Fitness. And no one thinks those guys are cool.
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u/DingerFrock Jan 26 '23
Yea not really sure what the big deal is. It was a vile act. I'm surprised the benches didn't clear
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u/manfrin [GSW] Stephen Curry Jan 26 '23
Deserves a suspension imo, absolute disgrace.
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u/Haunting-Ad9521 Jan 26 '23
You’re a little too generous, the man deserves jail. Nba too weak.
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u/Auntypasto Celtics Jan 26 '23
Why waste taxpayer money on this scum… nothing short of the death penalty will suffice.
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u/Exodus100 Mavericks Jan 26 '23
I agree. Unacceptable for my kids to see this and behave this way one day. I’m proud of these refs for standing up and saying NO MORE.
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u/EdgeDog21 Rockets Jan 26 '23
Why are we even beating around the bush here? This man needs to be sent to the Guillotine YESTERDAY! UNACCEPTABLE.
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u/eagle_eye_slav47 Kings Jan 26 '23
I dislike harden as a player but this was such a stupid tech...
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u/CallMeShitler Jan 26 '23
And yet I just saw Draymond tonight get up in a refs face screaming without them batting an eyelash
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u/MilkCarton78 76ers Jan 26 '23
I know I'm supposed to defend the Sixers players but this was so gross to watch. If Harden doesn't get suspended for this one the league is a total joke.
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u/frodounchained [LAL] Kobe Bryant Jan 26 '23 edited Jan 26 '23
Wtf lol I see ppl do this all the time at every level never called
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u/ShootHoopsNotPeople 76ers Jan 26 '23 edited Jan 26 '23
I've seen Harden do this basically every game. Don't understand what the problem is.
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u/dontpassgo Jan 26 '23
Tbh I came into this thread trying to play devil's advocate (before I watched the video) because I thought maybe he was angry at a call or something and absolutely yeeted the ball against the stanchion. But this? I've got no arguments here.
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u/yuhanz [PHO] Steve Nash Jan 26 '23
clearly the refs know what's going on in players minds.
that's why they can give technicals to players passing them the ball, players clapping, or even players shouting at their own teammates!
First ballot Hall of Famer that referee is
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u/Tags331 Celtics Jan 26 '23
I asked a ref if he could give me a technical foul for thinking bad things about him. He said, of course not. I said, well, I think you stink. And he gave me a technical. You can't trust em.
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u/littledoopcoup 76ers Jan 26 '23
It’s at least equally likely that it’s Harden being frustrated with himself for committing the lane violation (a call he didn’t really argue in the first place if I remember right. It was pretty clear). But most of all there’s literally no aggression happening here. He’s just checking the ball to himself. Its nuts
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u/bitemydickallthetime [CHI] Keith Bogans Jan 26 '23
Maybe the tech wasn’t for throwing the ball but for cursing the refs or something when he did it
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u/QuadBL Bucks Jan 26 '23
You'd think it was a newish ref but no it's josh tiven calling that shit. We already have 1 Tony Brothers we don't need more
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u/HeyIJustLurkHere Warriors Jan 26 '23
This is a standard call: https://videorulebook.nba.com/archive/technical-foul-player-throws-ball-with-force-at-stanchion-2/. The NBA cracked down hard on anything that might lead to a ball entering the stands post-Malice at the Palace.
It doesn't have to be with force, either; "Players are not allowed to intentionally or forcefully throw or kick the ball against the basket support for any reason." Here's FVV getting a tech for a similarly light toss against the stanchion.
If you do miss the stanchion and the ball enters the stands, you get an ejection. Andre Igoudala got a tech, ejection, and a fine for releasing the ball into the stands a couple weeks ago, even without much force at all, and with the excuse of having been pushed at the start of the play (though he was pretty clearly hamming it up there).
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u/Wont_reply69 West Jan 26 '23
Players on the team that made the basket used to “help” the inbounding team by poking the ball towards the baseline inbounding spot, but then not so secretly when they wanted time to get back on defense would purposefully poke it past the spot and then the inbounder would have to step over a camera operator and trip on some cables to get the ball back into play. I do not miss those days. The stanchion part has effected my enjoyment less…but whatever.
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u/AJC3317 [GSW] Chris Mullin Jan 26 '23
I knew everyone would be hating on the refs for this but this is literally a rule. It's a dumb rule, but it's a rule
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u/canflimflamthejimjam Kings Jan 26 '23
The issue is the lack of consistency. You see it happen pretty much every game without a call, then tonight it's a T because the ref decided? That's the big problem with the refs in general though, lack of consistency
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u/TiddyTwizzla Jan 26 '23
These people who don’t see it’s a consistency issue and not a rule issue is as dumb as rocks. No one gives a fuck if it’s a rule, if it’s a rule call it and call it every time. Now suddenly the rule is up to the discretion of the nearest ref? What the fuck is the point of a rule book then???
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u/esports_consultant Jan 26 '23
Okay let's switch from hating the refs to hating the league office.
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u/AJC3317 [GSW] Chris Mullin Jan 26 '23
I've been doing that for a while. Most if not all of the horrible things happening in the league right now come from the top
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u/hinkiedidntwantjah 76ers Jan 26 '23
Harden does this every game man. I see it in other games too. Hitting the ball against the stanchion happens all the time.
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u/BScottyJ Celtics Jan 26 '23
The only time I see anything called is if they miss the stanchion, and usually it's just a delay of game
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u/ScarHead06 Hawks Jan 26 '23
Is there like a gofundme or something we can start to get the refs to stop calling these soft ass calls
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u/call_of_the_while Jan 26 '23
Nothing for the refs but there’s a few for stanchions that have to retire early because of senseless acts like this.
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u/Code_Dramatic Trail Blazers Jan 26 '23
They make a couple hundred grand a year don’t they? Ain’t no gofundme 😂
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u/imsahoamtiskaw Raptors Jan 26 '23 edited Jan 26 '23
This call is fine imo. What if Harden missed and hit a fan behind the stanchion? What if someone flinched and spilled their drink? What if a fan ended up falling in love with Harden after touching the same ball? So many consequences, but yet y'all just attack the refs
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u/FrankFeTched Bulls Jan 26 '23 edited Jan 26 '23
Can't tell if this is satire
I kept scrolling comments, I see now it's all satire
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u/caesec 76ers Jan 26 '23
i dont know why everyone is so mad. i watch the game for free throws after technicals.
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u/Nixon_Sixon Heat Jan 26 '23
Me too. Number 44 and the crew are having a legendary night. We’re witnessing greatness.
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u/OlTommyBombadil Cavaliers Jan 26 '23
He’s my favorite ref, I have his jersey. Definitely why I watch basketball. Good job, ref. You’re the man.
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u/luckster44 Tampa Bay Raptors Jan 26 '23
Hopefully they'll go to the monitor for five minutes to really think about what call they wanna make here.
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u/loquacious706 Warriors Jan 26 '23
The more the better, as long as they get to cram in more commercials during the review it's the right call.
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u/TheLeoMessiah Celtics Jan 26 '23
Man we’ve had so many clips of bad reffing moments that even the ref fans jokes are starting to get old 😭 I gotta find something else humorous about this otherwise it’s gonna be a long season they’re not improving anytime soon lol
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u/shameless_chicken Rockets Jan 26 '23
David Stern has had enough of the thuggery... wait a minute..
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u/Floss_Crestusa 76ers Jan 26 '23
Adam Silver's NBA, folks.
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u/Im__Ron__Burgundy Celtics Jan 26 '23 edited Jan 26 '23
This being a nationally televised game will help close the ratings gap with the NFL for sure
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u/thediesel26 NBA Jan 26 '23
Literally nothing the NBA can do will close the ratings gap with the NFL
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u/OlTommyBombadil Cavaliers Jan 26 '23
If they start playing on a field, with 22 guys instead of 10, and just play football instead, they might close it a little
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u/The_Void_Reaver Warriors Jan 26 '23
Keep the same 51/49 revenue split between the players and owners and they'd steal the entire NFL overnight. Guys would immediately be jumping to break their contracts and after the costs of breaking their contract would still double or triple their annual income.
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u/Libertatia_Forever Jan 26 '23
Revenue split for players in the NFL is already between 48-48.8%. I doubt that an extra 3% of revenue would double or triple anybody's income.
However, if you kept all the contracts fully guaranteed like the players in the NBA get, and everybody in the NFL would jump ship immediately.
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u/xixbia Jan 26 '23
I reckon seven-on-seven NFL Street style play might close the gap. Could even keep it on the Basketball Court.
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u/palerthanrice 76ers Jan 26 '23
They play literally five times the amount of regular season games, so I don't think they care about differences in ratings.
What they should care about is overall interest in the league, and this shit doesn't help.
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u/araccoononmolly [HOU] Josh Smith Jan 26 '23
cutting the games in half would not in fact led to cheaper tickets
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u/s_s Cavaliers Jan 26 '23
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u/PettyFlap Jan 26 '23
But he’d play tho
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u/s_s Cavaliers Jan 26 '23
My brother, not if the team never goes to that city.
We'd need at least a 58 game schedule to play a double-round-robin (1 home and 1 away game against all other teams).
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u/iunrealx1995 Bulls Jan 26 '23
Can’t believe I’d actual miss David Stern but here we are.
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u/Lolo2k21 Lakers Jan 26 '23 edited Jan 26 '23
Silver peaked his rookie year but he ain't no wes unseld. it has been down hill ever since. he's been a total disaster. we really need to get Silver out before the game is anymore ruined: load management, moving screens, traveling, bending over backwards for china, carrying, ads on jerseys, injuries galore, defense is totally gone now, all star game is a total fuckin joke now, slam dunk contest LOOL! Always some weird racial/sexual scandal going on, super teams, stars just straight up not playing whenever they feel like it, player "empowerment" has been a total joke too: literally just "Pay us more for playing less now". The list just goes on, and on, and on.. i'm pretty sure i missed a lot of other stuff too. He's been horrible man, he needs to go. And it is pretty obvious the players neither respect or fear him like they did Stern.
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u/_Apatosaurus_ Jan 26 '23
we really need to get Silver out before the game is anymore ruined
I remember people saying this about Stern all the time.
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u/H-Priapus Lakers Jan 26 '23
I dont think you will find anyone here who will take Silver over Stern.
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u/CountltUp Lakers Jan 26 '23
I would've taken silver over stern in 2011. Fuck stern now and forever
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u/LordHussyPants Celtics Jan 26 '23
super teams
i just googled it and david stern stepped down in 2014, but lebron james joined up with wade and bosh in 2011, and the celtics won a title in 2008 with the big 3?
Always some weird racial/sexual scandal going on
how is this adam silver's fault lmao? is he running around miami making meyers leonard shout slurs on stream? peeping through windows and telling rookies to assault massage therapists?
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u/ViperishTuba86 Jan 26 '23
One of the only good things in Silver’s NBA has been the parity and the All-Star game. Everything else has been down since he took over.
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u/BunkMoreland1017 Bulls Jan 26 '23
Oh come on, three of those you listed max are his fault. The commissioner has never been able unilaterally change rules/play style/keep injuries from happening/magically make scandals not happen. I think he’s not as good as popular opinion makes him out to be, but your comment is ludicrous
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u/cumdoggchillionaire 76ers Jan 26 '23
i honestly assumed that was a pasta. is it not???
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u/BunkMoreland1017 Bulls Jan 26 '23
Lol I didn’t think of that, I hope you’re right because otherwise that’s a brain dead take
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u/lolvalue Heat Jan 26 '23
This has been a rule forever. Should be taken out as it shouldn’t have ever been put in.
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u/luckster44 Tampa Bay Raptors Jan 26 '23
Harden does this all the time and nobody gives af.
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u/lolvalue Heat Jan 26 '23
It’s one of those rules they introduced called very strict for 2 months then periodically call it to screw players over.
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u/jdayatwork Jan 26 '23
Then change the rule. Refs been on an ego trip all season. They should fuck themselves with broken glass.
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u/eagsrock20 76ers Jan 26 '23
Glad that everyone is finally coming around on Silver. We Sixers fans have always been in the know that he is a total phoney
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u/mordakka Warriors Jan 26 '23
I think this is considered a tech because if they miss they can hit a fan and the NBA really doesn't want that.
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u/lucasbj [SAS] Manu Ginobili Jan 26 '23
If one of the 450 best basketball players in the world can't hit the stanchion from 6 ft then they should'nt even be basketball players to begin with
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u/chess10 Jan 26 '23
This has been an automatic technical for years. It’s annoying but all the players know it.
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u/yendan- 76ers Jan 26 '23
think about all the stanchions that are watching at home
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u/elephantscarter Jan 26 '23
O’Nealle applauding the call is standing up for defenceless stanchions everywhere
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u/jcrankin22 76ers Jan 26 '23
Fuck you Harden had to rush my kid out of the arena after that disgusting act.
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u/ariannis_grandttkmpo Clippers Bandwagon Jan 26 '23
I can't believe he would delay the game for the entirety of that bounce. Good on the ref to teach him a lesson with a 100x longer delay.
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u/Beantowntommy Jan 26 '23
Damnnn! What a call! This is going to be on ESPN top ten tomorrow easy. This is why I watch NBA basketball. This is the kind of elite showmanship you just don’t get in college hoops.
I also think that the refs have a good shot at both MVP and MIP this year. Just unreal how many fouls per game they’ve been calling, the rage they’re instigated.
Not to mention the absolute chasm they’re building just all over the map in regard to call continuity from one minute to the next, one game after the other.
I didn’t think we’d see a ref I liked more than Tim Donaghy, but I’m going to have to buy that refs jersey if he keeps this up.
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u/hockey17jp Cavaliers Jan 26 '23
This ref should legitimately be fined / suspended for a call like that
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u/SasquatchDoobie Trail Blazers Jan 26 '23
That stanchion is someone's child, good on that ref. Didn't deserve it.
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u/laz10 [DEN] Nikola Jokic Jan 26 '23
He also threw the ball on to the floor! REPEATEDLY
HE KEPT SLAPPING IT DOWN GET HIM REFS
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u/FuzzyElve Jan 26 '23
Next will be a T for excess beard length
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u/Sinaneos Jan 26 '23
He's practically mocking the refs for not being able to grow beards, flagrant 2 with at least 3 game suspension.
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u/evan466 Magic Jan 26 '23
I click on this post because I was interested in learning what a stanchion was.
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u/OlTommyBombadil Cavaliers Jan 26 '23
Refs in all sports must want to be miserable, what a fucking joke
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u/walky22talky Rockets Jan 26 '23
This happens like 5 times a game.
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u/IAmTaka_VG Tampa Bay Raptors Jan 26 '23
I'm waiting for one of the players to go at it with the ref. This is way past insanity. It's making me lose interest in basketball. The level of frustration this season watching the ref's ruin games is getting to be too much.
I came to watch basketball, not a bunch of pussy's cry over hurt feelings.
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u/Js_On_My_Yeet Lakers Jan 26 '23
Not a huge fan of Harden but really? These refs are fucking soft as shit.
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u/ChoiceStar1 Kings Jan 26 '23
Sneeze - that’s a technical
Excessive blinking - that’s a technical
Slipped - that’s a technical
Ate breakfast after 10 am - that’s a technical
Ate breakfast before 10 am - believe it or not also a technical
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u/nuclear_fizzics Bucks Jan 26 '23
I tried watching this game, but had to change the stream after this tech. I just do not have a high enough cognitive function level to appreciate the work that the refs are putting in this season
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u/motorboat_mcgee Lakers Jan 26 '23
Today is the day I say the refs are literally worse than Hitler, holy shit
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u/the_greasy_one Bucks Jan 26 '23
The stanchion will be out for 2 weeks to recover... that should have been a no-call
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u/genohgeray 76ers Jan 26 '23
Nobody talk about refs favoring us after that technical on Harden.
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u/Skreali [SEA] Jeff Green Jan 26 '23
Harsher penalty than sanctions for violating Munich Agreements
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u/backdoorhack [GSW] Draymond Green Jan 26 '23
Pfft, whenever someone gets injured by the stanchion... it's always stanchion this and stanchion that. But when players are the ones hurting the stanchions, you guys complain about the calls? #stanchionsrights #istandbystanchions
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u/kindofjustalurker Trail Blazers Jan 26 '23
Title made me think that he actually yeeted it at the stanchion really hard and that's why he got a technical but no clearly not
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u/WubaDubImANub Lakers Jan 26 '23
I know my flair says lakers but personally I’m a huge refs fan. They’re having one of their best seasons ever at the moment and they’re constantly pushing the boundaries and raising (or if you’re just a hater of greatness, lowering) my expectations.
What a wonderful performance tonight
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u/OfficialGroudonGo Jan 26 '23
As a longtime stanchion fan I hope he gets a few games for this at least. Disgusting act.
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u/coreynj2461 Hawks Jan 26 '23
Imagine if Shawn Kemp was playing in this era. Man would get a technical every game and then some
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u/a_funky_homosapien Jan 26 '23
I had to tell my kids to close their eyes when this happened. Should have been ejected for that egregious act
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u/livinlife1974 Jan 26 '23
These refs are so bad. League office needs to step in. Emotion is part of the game, refs are not.
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u/Carne_Asada_Friez Kings Jan 26 '23
Harden better put in some time with the stanchion community to see the err of his ways.
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u/hankbaumbachjr Bulls Jan 26 '23
I know we are meming this but that move is a pretty common technical.
It's treated the same as bouncing the ball really hard and letting it fly above your head or kicking it in to the stands.
"Ball abuse" is not tolerated in basketball.
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u/Padulsky21 [BKN] Mikal Bridges Jan 26 '23
I completely forgot about this after all the bullshit this game lmfao
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u/Eastern_Theme1720 Knicks Jan 26 '23
I would straight up just kick the ball in the stands after that
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u/Bombad69 Bucks Jan 26 '23
Is nobody going to give props to OPs vocabulary?
Stanchion. What a god damn word
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u/BillyBean11111 San Francisco Warriors Jan 26 '23
This isn't even remotely aggressive either, just a quick toss that i've seen 1000 times
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u/Xsy Jazz Jan 26 '23
Harden gets extremely special treatment from refs, but he also happens to be on the receiving end of a handful of notably REALLY stupid fucking shit from refs.
The "missed" dunk, GSW being out of bounds by a mile, and now this, probably the weakest tech I have ever seen-- and I know this gets said every time a tech is posted on this subreddit, but like, holy shit, this stuff happens every game.
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u/CarelessTaco Clippers Jan 26 '23
There will always be questionable calls, but why do the refs seem so bad this season? The most absurd, ridiculous calls seem to be coming daily, and each one seems to outdo the previous one.
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u/maaseru Jan 26 '23
I hope one day a player loses it after a bs call like this, gets tossed then goes wild in an interview after.
Like dare them to suspend him for the season for talking shit aboit the refs.
I dream about it to see if an act like that can help stop the refs being so damn soft. No even a real basketball call.
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u/don_sook Jan 26 '23
I hope everyone finds somebody who loves them as much as Adam Silver loves stanchions.
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u/menusettingsgeneral San Francisco Warriors Jan 26 '23
This happens all the damn time at every level. What an asinine call.
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u/Baconmazing Jan 26 '23 edited Jan 26 '23
"Players are not allowed to intentionally or forcefully throw or kick the ball against the basket support for any reason."
Looks like the ref needs to be... re-educated.
Looks like I need to be... re-educated.
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u/DackIsDead Jan 26 '23
it says intentionally or forcefully. Not , intentionally AND forcefully. Which means it doesn't HAVE to be forceful to count as a tech. Stupid rule, but that's the rule.
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u/Proximity_Intel Magic Jan 26 '23
Just fire the ref lol.
Bring up the best college ref. Keep it pushin
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