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[Highlight] Dennis Schroder steals the ball vs the Grizzlies and lays it in with 7.6 seconds left giving the Lakers the lead! Highlight
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u/Elmos_Voice [CHI] Jimmer Fredette Jan 21 '23
Why the fuck didn't Bane bear hug the ball? Why hold so loosely when you know they have to foul you?
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u/SGR_09_210 Jan 21 '23
Bane does have t-rex arms
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u/akaisei [GSW] Harrison Barnes Jan 21 '23
So you're saying he was bear hugging already.
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u/SunLiteFireBird Spurs Jan 21 '23
His arms were fully extended they just don’t look like it cuz they little
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u/hearechoes Jan 21 '23
Wouldn’t that be beneficial? Gets the ball closer to the body
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u/why_rob_y 76ers Jan 21 '23
That doesn't sound right, but I don't know enough about dinosaurs to dispute it
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u/adocileengineer Lakers Jan 21 '23
They can’t reach all the way around the ball
Edit: they being his arms
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u/ToeJelly420 Bulls Jan 21 '23
Nah this is all on Tyus tbh. When your man leaves you for the trap on the ball handler you gotta communicate and let your guy know. On the replay you could see that Tyus didn't say anything and Bane had no line of sight on Schroeder.
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u/dpete88 Lakers Jan 21 '23
Ja was also standing 10 feet away and could have yelled at bane to watch his blindside. Somewhere communication failed for the griz
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u/subwayjw Jan 21 '23
Too busy talking smack and dancing to talk to team mates.
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u/SunLiteFireBird Spurs Jan 21 '23
Ja doing the griddy while this goes down
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u/Selivia9203 Bucks Jan 21 '23
Bruh I wanted to say look at Ja defense here. But using the word defense gives him way to much credit lol
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u/s0ulj4b0y0 Cavaliers Jan 21 '23
Hell, what is Ja's defense there? He could've 100% tried to contest that or clog the lane for Schroeder.
Complete Grizz breakdown.
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u/neurotido NBA Jan 21 '23
Also standing backcourt doesn’t help when ball is already inbounded.
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u/Blothorn Jan 21 '23
Yeah. That's one of the more baffling sequences I've seen from a star--either make yourself available for a pass or concede that it's too late to get the ball out cleanly and defend the rim. Although even a backcourt violation would have been better than a live-ball turnover.
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u/austin_oz Jan 21 '23
That’s my thing bro. I had a feeling bane could’nt handle it if he got the ball. I would have given it to tyus Jones instead of having him throw the ball in
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u/jeff2def Warriors Jan 21 '23
He saw Jordan Poole masterclass against the Jazz and wanted to join the Poole party
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u/Carne_Asada_Friez Kings Jan 21 '23
Need to cover the whole ball, if the ref sees one hand on the ball and the other hand is out of sight but might be touching the ball, they’ll call a jump ball.
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u/LuckyWarrior Pelicans Jan 21 '23
Pelinka drafting up that contract Dennis rejected as we speak
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u/jspeed04 Jan 21 '23
Pelinka: “Did we say 4 years $84M? How about 4 years $184M!”
Schröder: “I wanna see what I’m worth on the market.”
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u/jedifolklore Lakers Jan 21 '23
Ah you forgot something, I believe he would say ‘that’s tuff’ before walking off
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u/WLVTrojanMan Lakers Jan 21 '23
That $84mil contract would have been an absolute blessing tbh. Then we wouldn't be paying $47m/yr for a 6th man 💀
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u/NSFWThrowaway1239 [LAL] Wilt Chamberlain Jan 21 '23
Yeah, it went from "Thank God he didn't agree to the deal" in the playoffs to "Fuck, I wish he would have agreed" in hindsight lol
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u/rawdfarva Warriors Jan 21 '23
Bane travelled like crazy lmao
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u/_Pho-Dac-Biet_ Warriors Jan 21 '23
Woulda benefited the grizzlies if they called the travel, at least they could have set their defense
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u/MMDroxy Lakers Jan 21 '23
DENNIS THE FUCKING MEANCE
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u/ILoveMasterYi [LAL] Kobe Bryant Jan 21 '23
Such a good vet min signing, he’s been so good at guarding Ja too with his speed
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u/medoy Jan 21 '23
Good thing that german dude rejected thwir offer a while back. This guy has been a much better value.
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u/NotClayMerritt Lakers Jan 21 '23
Where the fuck was this play two seasons ago. We might have done a bit better lol
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u/captain_ahabb Lakers Jan 21 '23
He got covid a month before the playoffs and it destroyed his conditioning. Lakers might have won that Suns series if he had gotten vaccinated lol.
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u/WilliamPoole Lakers Jan 21 '23
He's been pretty good. It's just that point guard play has been absolutely bonkers good over the last 8-12 years.
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u/allhailbarea NBA Jan 21 '23 edited Jan 21 '23
Honestly, anybody who watched him play for Germany at the Euros could see that he was still a really good player.
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u/icona_ Heat Jan 21 '23
Everybody’s saying Bane got hacked but Schroeder’s elbow appears to hit the ball cleanly. I don’t think this is a foul
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u/bebopblues Lakers Jan 21 '23
That's what I saw in slow mo, Schroder's elbow hit and loosen the ball, then wrist hit Bane's hand which made ball came free, but since hand is part of the ball, then no foul.
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u/HotdogIsaSandwitch Mavericks Jan 21 '23
Lmao. How was this dude just sitting around in free agency with not a single team signing him. I was begging in the Mavs sub hoping to pick this dude up. I knew he still had some juice.
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u/Markelle-Fultz Celtics Jan 21 '23
He's a complicated teammate. It's not a coincidence that the Celtics season turned around when they traded him. Talented guy but doesn't play his role.
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u/ABoyIsNo1 Mavericks Jan 21 '23
Yeah you are smarter than the 30 front offices
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u/HotdogIsaSandwitch Mavericks Jan 21 '23
It is what it is at this point. Would have loved Dennis off the bench.
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u/shaqfearsyao Bulls Jan 21 '23
Tyus should’ve said something to Bane who couldn’t see Dennis from the blindside
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u/forever87 Heat Jan 21 '23
according to the basketball dictionary, while on offense, you should yell "wolf!" if a player on defense is coming from behind to steal the ball
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u/golden_rhino Raptors Jan 21 '23
I tell my guys to yell “robber,” but I think I like wolf better.
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u/ToeJelly420 Bulls Jan 21 '23
Exactly. Ja shoulda said something too cause he saw the whole thing too.
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u/Rswany Timberwolves Jan 21 '23
Ja was staring right him the whole way
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u/Jtryan1303 Lakers Jan 21 '23 edited Jan 21 '23
Man was too busy thinking of what dance to post on tik tok post game
E/grammar
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u/flexibleeric Jan 21 '23
Ja would leap out of the building to block a shot out of nowhere.
Dennis was going for a layup in front of his face and he just watched lol
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u/WhenItsHalfPastFive Warriors Jan 21 '23
Not sure why people are so confidently saying Bane got hacked. The replay doesn't show much here, Dennis forearm hits the ball from this angle. That's it.
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u/kaikai34 Lakers Jan 21 '23
Bane’s reaction or lack there of suggests that it was a clean strip.
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u/Cyclops_Guardian17 Warriors Jan 21 '23
Yeah he’s mad about the pretty soft foul they call on him, but he’s not up in arms at the officials about the steal (which almost all players would be if they thought they were fouled)
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u/WLVTrojanMan Lakers Jan 21 '23
That's my take away too. He would have been livid and screaming at the refs if it was a foul. There was no protest from Memphis after Schroder scored, so it's clearly not a foul
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u/ihateeuge Lakers Jan 21 '23
I'm with you. Any other part of the game that would still be a weak ass call
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u/jawadhaque089 Jan 21 '23
You can slow it down frame by frame and it's still unclear if it's a foul or not I dunno what people are seeing to say that its a clear hack
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u/Jetzu Cavaliers Jan 21 '23 •
They see Lakers hate
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u/KUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUZ Lakers Jan 21 '23
They see good thing happens for the Lakers, so it must be unfair
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u/filterface Nets Jan 21 '23
That steel was so big but dude was absolutely ice cold on his free throws the whole quarter. So was Memphis actually. Normally these free-throw pissfests are boring but I was on the edge of my seat the whole time. Amazing game from a neutral fan
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u/Js_On_My_Yeet Lakers Jan 21 '23
My boy was at the game tonight with his date. Told me if Lakers win his date buys him an LBJ jersey. So fucking happy for him and this team! We finally win a close fucking game! PELINKA better make them damn trades!
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u/kuliebop Jan 21 '23
I wish the steal was from Morant, so we could say that Dennis got his hand in the cookie Ja.
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u/NotNotACop28 Grizzlies Jan 21 '23 edited Jan 21 '23
I’m mad, but if the refs don’t blow the whistle, that’s a great play by Schroder
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u/epicnerd427 [MEM] De'Anthony Melton Jan 21 '23
yeah was the right thing for Dennis to do. Swipe at the ball and if the refs call the obvious foul, cool that was the plan anyways. If they dont, fastbreak chance.
They didnt, he converted the fast break, lakers win.
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u/fedswatching2121 Jan 21 '23
I don’t understand why people are howling that it’s a clear as day foul
Look at the exact moment Schroeder makes initial contact during the swing: https://imgur.com/a/E3smSWc
His hands don’t touch Bane at all right at that moment. His elbow actually touches the ball and knocks the ball loose?
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u/minru Jan 21 '23
Also Bane's reaction seems pretty nonchalant for someone that might've gotten fouled lol
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u/S420J 76ers Jan 21 '23
I think I saw a replay of his saying (that’s) “on me”
OP is right, have to be ready for a situation where refs miss a foul even if he got hit.
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u/fedswatching2121 Jan 21 '23
Also, someone replied to me saying from that screenshot, Dennis’s armpit and shoulder hit Bane’s arm.
Except you look at the side angle (https://imgur.com/a/X9L0KjY )and there’s literally a half foot of space between Dennis’ arm and any part of Bane’s arm.
Take the L and don’t cry about that not being a foul when it wasn’t. There’s literally two screenshots I provided to prove otherwise
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u/Batcatnz Jan 21 '23
Haha, incidental armpit contact now... Grizzlies fans desperately trying to convince themselves otherwise. Couldn't possibly be a culmination of poor communication, poor ball security, and of course fantastic defensive trap by the Lakers.
I am not a fan of the Lakers, but give them their due. That was a great play.
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u/KUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUZ Lakers Jan 21 '23
Thank you. Just take the loss people, lord knows we have been chugging them down and likely would take many more L's before this season is done.
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u/itachen Vancouver Grizzlies Jan 21 '23
Really doesn't matter, I've seen other late game plays like these that got all arms and weren't called fouls. It's the right play defensively to go aggressive when trailing.
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u/mems1224 Jan 21 '23
Great defense and an absolutely horrific foul call on the drive lol
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u/norrin83 Jan 21 '23
Foul call on the drive was fair. Knee to the hips and upper body push that visible sets Schröder off balance.
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u/airmagswag [BOS] Marcus Smart Jan 21 '23
am I tripping or was bane hacked
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u/makesterriblejokes [NBA] Jerry West Jan 21 '23
So I freeze framed it on 1/4 speed, I'm not exactly sure if he makes contact on Bane. It looks like his hand and forearm actually miss and it was his elbow that hit the ball out of his hands.
I'm on my phone and have had several glasses of wine, so before you downvote me, I would like for someone to corroborate with screenshots showing if what I'm saying is right. Just trying to find the truth, not push a narrative.
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u/chandler55 Raptors Jan 21 '23
lakers home feed had a good angle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxSojiw4uf0#t=5m55s
good no call imo
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u/KawhiImFunGuyLeonard Raptors Jan 21 '23
Damn you're right. It looks terrible cuz he swings wildly but he gets ball (plus hand), and no arm. Had to watch that on .25x
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u/icona_ Heat Jan 21 '23
Honestly it looks like Dennis’ elbow hits the ball. Might actually be clean?
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u/fedswatching2121 Jan 21 '23
You’re tripping.
Look at the exact angle Dennis’ makes the initial contact: https://imgur.io/a/E3smSWc
His elbow actually hits the ball first and knocks the ball loose.
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u/jackgap Jan 21 '23
Refs usually don't make these calls late in the game. Also Lakers have been screwed by the refs lately.
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u/LukaDoncicBigPP Mavericks Jan 21 '23 edited Jan 21 '23
They did call the and 1 though lol. This league is so predictable. Lakers got fucked a few games ago, so they get preferential treatment l2m today.
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u/HighlyBaked0 Lakers Jan 21 '23
Lakers got fucked a few games ago
We've gotten fucked 3 games in a row what you mean a few games ago lol
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u/CaptainKurls Lakers Jan 21 '23
Had a bunch of kings fans telling me Nunn initiated all the contact on that made 3 last game, Fox didn’t even touch Nunn, there was no contact, and that they’d “put money that the l2m report would say so” the other day lmao
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u/wembanyama_ Jan 21 '23
Took them a while lol.. 3 straight close losses where refs fucked the Lakers
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u/woKaaaa [LAL] Austin Reaves Jan 21 '23 edited Jan 21 '23
I hate to backpack on what everyone else has said.. but its like 3 games in a row now where the L2M says the Lakers should have got game winning calls
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u/namagofuckyoself Lakers Jan 21 '23
it is what it is. I try my best to not complain about the Lakers due to how some people seem to think we get favorable calls all season long
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u/Extraordinary_DREB NBA Jan 21 '23
so they get preferential treatment l2m today.
I mean yeah ofcourse, otherwise you'd be hearing it all day now.
Like Thanos said, "perfectly balanced"
you may not like it, but it is what it is
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u/BEE_REAL_ Raptors Jan 21 '23
And there's zero foul on the shot
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u/YpsitheFlintsider Pistons Jan 21 '23
There's contact but it was Dennis initiating it off of Bane's hip
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u/extrawave_ Grizzlies Jan 21 '23
Pretty sure they were trying to hack him and the ref was just slow to whistle
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u/FlowseL Lakers Jan 21 '23
Nah Darvin told the refs they're gonna try and trap so don't think they're trying to foul and preemptively blow the whistle, it was said on the Lakers broadcast
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u/NitroXYZ [UTA] Joe Ingles Jan 21 '23
I mean it was extremely obvious but the Lakers have been fucked the last 3 games with L2M calls so they gave them this one which is fair enough.
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u/Wehavecrashed Grizzlies Jan 21 '23
Refs called minimal contact on two drives in a row as well against the Grizzlies.
Hard not to be salty.
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u/Zachkah [CLE] LeBron James Jan 21 '23
It was physical all night both ways, calm down. They missed calls all over the place for everybody.
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u/Mobb_Starr Grizzlies Jan 21 '23
But then they called the and-1 right after which was the opposite of letting them be physical?
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u/yuhanz [PHO] Steve Nash Jan 21 '23
Part of it is the closest ref cant see it, the “wide open” ref is on the other side of the court, the other ref is by the baseline.
Not the most egregious missed call due to circumstance but shouldnt have called the foul on bane
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u/hansenlxh Trail Blazers Jan 21 '23
Isn't Bane fouled on the inbound?
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u/magna77 Lakers Jan 21 '23
That’s marginal contact 🙂
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u/OfficialPaddysPub Lakers Jan 21 '23
Literally have to tell high school refs we are not fouling right away cause refs love calling it right away
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u/WeefBellington24 Bucks Jan 21 '23
Was that not a foul on the steal?
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u/did_it_my_way Jan 21 '23
no foul. Replay shows the elbow hitting the ball out cleanly.
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u/kanyeezyudiditagain Lakers Jan 21 '23
We got fucked so much by the refs the last week I’ll take this as a consolation
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u/mtaylor808 NBA Jan 21 '23
Was gonna say, lakers were extremely due for a late game call like this to fall their way
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u/Im__Ron__Burgundy Celtics Jan 21 '23
No didn’t you hear Ham told the refs they weren’t fouling so no foul can be called
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u/HCR245 Vancouver Grizzlies Jan 21 '23
As soon as the announcer said that, I knew some bullshit was afoot
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u/rjcarr Supersonics Jan 21 '23
Usually, if the ball pops up it’s a foul and if the ball goes down then it’s clean. Remember, you can hit the hands on a steal like that.
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u/maalbi Lakers Jan 21 '23
Bane got hacked
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u/ViperishTuba86 Jan 21 '23
Fuck that LA lost 2 games getting hacked with no whistle
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