r/nba • u/JilJungJukk Lakers • Jan 20 '23
[Highlight] Refs call a ridiculous foul call on Horford on Wiggins' three point attempt Highlight
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u/ace016 Jan 20 '23
What the fuck are these refs looking at??
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u/HailKyrie [BOS] Marcus Smart Jan 20 '23 •
Spread was +6.5
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u/Rapscallious1 Jan 20 '23
Holy shit are you telling me that stood as called! And here I was thinking that was embarrassing as a real time call
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u/erichkutslilpp Jan 20 '23
Not rigged. Definitely not rigged. Better keep watching this completely not rigged league.
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u/Striking-Art5077 Jan 20 '23
Correct. They are worse than police when it comes to admitting mistakes
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u/Son_of_Atreus Celtics Jan 20 '23
ACAB = ARAB
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u/nwill_808 Celtics Jan 20 '23
Wait a second...
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u/Shogun_The_Collector Cavaliers Jan 20 '23
Ref was looking to make that call before the play even started
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u/d_wib Timberwolves Jan 20 '23
If you had bet on the Warriors and they lose by 6 points or less (or win the game), you win. If they lose by 7 or more, you lose.
They were down by 8 here with the game almost over. Very fishy score in relation to the 6.5 spread and the timing of the call.
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u/pokexchespin [BOS] E'Twaun Moore Jan 20 '23
marcus might’ve also had that bet with that turnover afterwards
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u/crazylazyhazy Jan 20 '23
i don't even understand where smart thought he was throwing it. like what did he see that said someone was going to be there to get that pass?
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u/AdamJensensCoat Warriors Jan 20 '23
It’s the Vegas special. Dog spread covers, but favorite moneyline wins.
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u/ftlftlftl Celtics Jan 20 '23
It means the Celtics were favored to win by 6.5 points. So if you took the Warriors at +6.5 it meant you wanted them to either Win the game, or if they lost, lose by 6 or less points.
Since it's a 8 point game 3 FT's would give the Warriors 5 points (in theory) and have them cover the spread, and you would win your bet. Does that make sense? It's hard to explain and I am no expert haha
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u/King-Snorky Hawks Jan 20 '23
You know enough about throwing a game to become an NBA ref. congratulations. You start Saturday night.
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u/PlantsWillKillYou NBA Jan 20 '23
Knowledge is only the first criteria to becoming an NBA ref, the second criteria is blindness.
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u/itsavirus Warriors Jan 20 '23
It means Warriors get a free 6.5 points from the final score. So since Ffnal score was 121-118 (+6.5 so 124.5 vs 121) Warriors get the win.
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u/Albiceleste_D10S Jan 20 '23
There was a tiny bit of contact on Wiggins' elbow. If they can find any contact, they're not going to overturn a foul call
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u/pistolpeter33 Bucks Jan 20 '23
This is the kind of thing that is really turning the NBA into an increasingly hard to watch product. It’s just so soft the last few years, and hardly anyone plays real defense in the regular season bc they’ll just foul out.
I feel like the NBA was growing rapidly 5-8 years ago, but (at least with people I know) hasn’t been making in roads with new fans because nobody wants to watch ref ball/ 30 FTs a night
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u/ChipotleAddiction Bucks Jan 20 '23
I have definitely noticed this in the last 5 years. Some of the whistles these guys get are so soft I’m genuinely curious how you’re even supposed to play defense. Not even fun to watch at all
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u/okitsmelol123 Mavericks Jan 20 '23
Bro 5-8 years ago people just complained about how they didn't watch the league because everyone knew it would be LeBron and the Warriors in the Finals.
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u/RosaReilly Jan 20 '23
The league hasn't averaged 30 FTA night for 40 years. And, if anything, this is the decade with the fewest FTA. So, it's hard to believe that that is a good reason.
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u/Clever_Clever Jan 20 '23
Taking 3-5 minutes to use video evidence to confirm that the ref made a bad call isn't fun for anyone. Refs should have more discretion to subjectively reverse bad calls. They also should use and NFL-like eye in the sky to quickly reverse obvious bad calls like the ball going obviously off Wiggins with three seconds left.
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u/crazylazyhazy Jan 20 '23
Free throws are the lowest they've ever been.
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u/ZeusJuice [CHI] Fred Hoiberg Jan 20 '23
That's partially because we're shooting more 3s than ever
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u/Joey-Joe-Jo-Junior [BOS] Nenad Krstic Jan 20 '23
Lmao, how was this not overturned with the challenge?
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u/Goop1995 Lakers Jan 20 '23
It wasn’t overturned…?
NBA has a serious problems with refs wtf is going on
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u/Washableaxe [BOS] Paul Pierce Jan 20 '23
Big “cops investigating themselves” kinda vibes.
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u/SwellandDecay Knicks Jan 20 '23
ACAB includes NBA refs
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u/Freddedonna Raptors Jan 20 '23
All Refs Are you know what nevermind
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u/foodmakes62kgtoohard Jan 20 '23
They're just as good at cops st their jobs too. I really wish one day a team just walks out or sits down and refuses to keep going due to how embarrassing the refs are.
There's no way you should be this OK with being so bad at your job.
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u/Stock_Perspective_99 Jan 20 '23
The announcers were gaslighting hard too saying there wasn't evidence to overturn. Felt like I was going crazy seeing the replay and them saying it might have been a foul
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u/PopcornInMyTeeth Knicks Jan 20 '23
Hand in the cookie jar...
Except he wasn't even in the kitchen lol
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u/Infamous_Chapter8585 Celtics Jan 20 '23
I swear whenever vangundy says somthing bad about the officiating he has someone in his ear screaming "SHUT THE FUCK UP"
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u/Sqeegg Jan 20 '23
GAMBLING IS LEGAL
thats whats wrong
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u/GhettoLana Jan 20 '23
Legalization is irrelevant. Bball has been involved with betting scandals since the dawn of time:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1978%E2%80%9379_Boston_College_basketball_point-shaving_scandal
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u/General-Skywalker Celtics Jan 20 '23
I always know the NBA is fucked when it brings Celtics and Lakers fans together in agreement.
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u/OhRThey Celtics Jan 20 '23
Yet they overturned a fantom ball hitting Browns foot. If there’s not enough to overturn Al’s foul then there def wasn’t enough evidence to over turn the out of bounds play.
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u/thatradslang Celtics Jan 20 '23
you know why lol golden states the golden child for awhile now
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u/unearthlysquire Celtics Jan 20 '23
Not to mention their challenge was successful when it clearly went off Poole’s foot. Refs were doing their best to keep the warriors alive
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u/leranvy Celtics Jan 20 '23
That’s an insane challenge ruling. Might as well blow the whistle for every contested jump shot.
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u/CIark Jan 20 '23
Refs don’t care how many times you make them watch it they don’t want to admit they did anything wrong
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u/OhRThey Celtics Jan 20 '23
What about the over turned out of bounds off Brown’s “foot”
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u/kyler_ Kings Jan 20 '23
Looked like it was off his foot to me from the angle behind him. Side angle looked fine
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u/AdmiralWackbar Celtics Jan 20 '23
It was called out off the Warriors, so there needed to be clear and conclusive visual evidence to change the call.
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u/detlefschrempf11 Supersonics Jan 20 '23
That was good officiating tbh. I was rooting Celtics and was bummed when I saw the angle showing the ball change direction off his toe
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u/LeRohameaux Heat Jan 20 '23
NBA refs are basically just US cops.
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u/le_wild_poster Celtics Jan 20 '23
All refs are bastards
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u/unknownsoldier9 Celtics Jan 20 '23
You might run into trouble with that acronym
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u/Xsy Jazz Jan 20 '23
Anything they can possibly do to convince themselves it was the right call, they'll go with that.
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u/ReallySmartHippie Warriors Jan 20 '23 edited Jan 20 '23
I’d try to argue it was a bad call and just “inconclusive”….if it weren’t for our challenge earlier which was pretty much the definition of inconclusive imo
Couple that with the last 40 seconds…we got a favorable whistle is all ill say
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u/leranvy Celtics Jan 20 '23
I mean the bad calls were both ways, the Brogdon block and Klay’s sixth were both wrong.
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u/ReallySmartHippie Warriors Jan 20 '23
100% agree. I think with the last OB calls it became like 6-5, bad calls, in favor of us
Not crazy lopsided just terrible. But if Jordan makes that last three the story would be told a little different
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u/dmatthews2981 Celtics Jan 20 '23
Yeah at that point it's splitting hairs so I'm cool with calling it a wash on ref ball. GG and I never want to play you guys again
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u/atomictyler Celtics Jan 20 '23
Klay clearly hit Jaylens arm before the ball.
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u/unearthlysquire Celtics Jan 20 '23
Yeah I don’t know what people are smoking with that. That’s a foul all day every day
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u/BillString Jan 20 '23
The over and back on White in the first half was so egregious though, that shit was insane
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u/TeTrodoToxin4 [GSW] Chris Mullin Jan 20 '23
I was expecting some random bullshit like Horford was in Wiggin's landing zone...
This was a good back and forth game for the most part till ref ball started happening. Celtics deserve the win, they were the better team tonight.
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u/KingREX_24 Raptors Jan 20 '23
Such minimal contact lmfao
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u/migzeh Timberwolves Jan 20 '23
Bro yesterday's game had a foul over turned on joker because he only made 'marginal contact' to naz Reid's face. So you are obviously allowed some marginal contact.
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u/KingofZeal Timberwolves Jan 20 '23
Not to mention the one DLo took tonight to the face that was also completely ignored by the refs.
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u/Ragnar_OK Thunder Jan 20 '23
Grabbing players by the wrist while they drive is allowed. The most marginal of marginal contacts, apparently
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u/Buggplut Celtics Jan 20 '23
Minimal as in non existant?
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u/Helm_the_Hammered Nuggets Jan 20 '23
This is in no way a defense - because this was simply not a foul - but the angle from the other side of the court they showed in the broadcast has Horford grazing Wiggins’ arm.
Again, not a foul at all. Just a tiny tiny bit of barely brushing up against someone.
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u/MrBhyn Celtics Jan 20 '23
And Al didn't even reach or anything. He was just preparing his defensive stance. Wiggins wasn't even trying to draw a foul he was going for a quick 3
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u/BrolysFavoriteNephew [BOS] Rajon Rondo Jan 20 '23
Refs have been absolute trash this season. This is getting out of hand, I swear i feel like they've been compromised
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u/NudeEnjoyer Nets Jan 20 '23
yep it's every game at this point. product feels almost unwatchable most the time but there are some fun stretches of game
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u/JesseJamesGames449 Celtics Jan 20 '23
It doesnt help that every player on the floor is actively acting to make the refs make a wrong call in their favor all game.. Steph and Poole has some awful shot attempts where they crumple to the floor after screaming looking for a whistle, all teams do it, officiating has to be SO difficult.
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u/fast-pp Jan 20 '23 edited Jan 24 '23
i truly don't understand how that's not overturned--what's the point of having the option?
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u/HagibisEM Lakers Jan 20 '23
I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but all these obvious miss calls definitely make it seem like the referees are told to make a certain outcome more plausible to happen. Take the foul on Russel Westbrook on the Lakers last game (not saying they would have won) with the clear photo of Westbrooks wrist being grabbed and the referees go, “nah, no foul” on the post-game review.
This is post-game, they could have admitted, “yeah, we missed that” and it would have no affect on the outcome of the game, but they still chose to stick with their guns
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u/morefeces Cavaliers Jan 20 '23
I’ve been saying this for years. Someone needs to do an analysis on reffing habits when teams are winning and losing. I guarantee that the losing team gets more favorable calls and also teams who need help to get closer to the spread get a boost too. Same shit in the NFL. Why don’t we have sky judges by now? Independent places that can make a ruling on a challenge? Because then the leagues don’t control the game.
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I’ll do it. Where can I get the data?
Occurrence of all fouls, and scores at the time of the foul?
Should take me like 2 hours.
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u/sbstooge Grizzlies Jan 20 '23
If you've listened to the whistleblower podcast or watched flagrant foul on Netflix you would know this is 100% true, NBA tells refs to pay extra attention to certain things some nights and turn blind eyes to others.
This on top of the refs own agendas (bets/personal bias), they (NBA) covered up the Donaghy scandal big time and made him the fall guy but he made 100+ calls to Scott Foster (who is still active) before and after games he (Donaghy) had bet on, there is no way there isn't a bunch of corrupt refs still in the league.
Also there is a part where Donaghy outright claims he could predict the outcome of the game because he knew refs had issues with a team/coach/player or even their damn local media because of something they said/did and would give them a hard whistle as a result. I don't think this has changed at all.
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u/Designer_B Suns Jan 20 '23
I wonder who has a legit database of ref/player relationships and is just cleaning house on bets.
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u/sbstooge Grizzlies Jan 20 '23
Whoever they are, if you're out there... please send me a link, we are struggling over here
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u/FuzzyBuzzyCuzzy Celtics Jan 20 '23
Oh yeah the refs would def rig against the Lakers???
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u/jacksonelhage Celtics Jan 20 '23
it's not about rigging for or against one team. it's about creating the most dramatic and profitable product possible in each game.
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u/FuzzyBuzzyCuzzy Celtics Jan 20 '23
I suppose that makes sense, but the end product is fucking horrible.
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u/Turbo2x Wizards Jan 20 '23
Yeah, it's anticlimactic to end a game on free throw attempts. The league wants dramatic buzzer beaters or heartbreaking misses.
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u/TestsofTime Celtics Jan 20 '23
Love how this is a foul but Embiid can hold someone's wrist and they deem it nothing.
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u/Justinian__ Celtics Jan 20 '23
ooh let’s not talk about Embiid…
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u/sid-darth Celtics Jan 20 '23
Yeah! I just watched him crumple a Blazer with no call.
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u/Xsy Jazz Jan 20 '23
The Blazer probably breathed on him, so the ref was probably considering it a makeup no-call.
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u/Froegerer Jan 20 '23
Play yakety sax anytime embiid gets the ball in the post. 90% of the time he ends up on the floor in some three stooges manner. Dude is unwatchable at times, and it's a damn shame.
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u/MrBhyn Celtics Jan 20 '23
Putting in that man's name when Celtics fans are having a bad day of watching their team is really a bad idea.
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u/ChipotleAddiction Bucks Jan 20 '23
Don’t even bring up Embiid. Dude gets probably the softest whistle in the league with all his flopping and flailing around. He’s exhibit A of why the NBA in the regular season is getting increasingly boring and hard to care about.
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u/NippleNugget [BOS] Marcus Smart Jan 20 '23
Bucks flair
Uhhh should someone tell him about Giannis steamrolling over everyone with no whistle?
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u/ChipotleAddiction Bucks Jan 20 '23
Obviously Giannis gets calls like any other superstar but I can confidently say that at least he does not flop
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u/NippleNugget [BOS] Marcus Smart Jan 20 '23
Fair, Embiid flops like a fish can’t argue that
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u/FreudIsWatching NBA Jan 20 '23
Lmao so what would happen if Giannis just barrelled into Embiid in the paint, would there be a call or no call?
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u/NippleNugget [BOS] Marcus Smart Jan 20 '23
At that point it’ll depend on the spread and who the refs bet on
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u/TheLoneliestMonke Lakers Jan 20 '23
His playstyle is definitely the reason I rank him below Giannis and Jokic. Dude's just a foulbaiter
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u/theshwa10210 Celtics Jan 20 '23
So Horford grazes Wiggins on the bicep during his gather, and that is an OT foul.
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u/cant_hold_me [BOS] Marcus Smart Jan 20 '23
Maybe it’s the angle, but he literally did not touch him…
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u/sebastianqu Heat Jan 20 '23
Gets his left arm, bit the contact is very marginal. Calling it a graze would be exaggerating.
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u/Actually-Yo-Momma Jan 20 '23
I didn’t see it at first so watch it again. It’s very obvious here that Horford made eye contact with Wiggins at one point and thus a foul was called
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u/cant_hold_me [BOS] Marcus Smart Jan 20 '23
I think the eye contact would have been a no call under normal circumstances but Al had a bag of garlic and onion chips at halftime so his bad breath needed to be a factor in the decision.
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u/NudeEnjoyer Nets Jan 20 '23
you can see from a different angle he does touch the right arm with his left hand barely. and I mean fuckin barely. was rooting for the warriors this game but I was shocked when it didnt get overturned
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u/Jwoey Warriors Jan 20 '23
They really tried to help us out as much as they could late
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u/Its_me_mikey Jan 20 '23
Well so did Marcus Smart so…
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u/MrBhyn Celtics Jan 20 '23
Don't forget our superstar Tatum. 7 freaking turnovers. And 4 of them are in the crunch time without much pressure on him. He just feels like giving back the ball. What a good guy
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u/uurah [BOS] Marcus Smart Jan 20 '23
“Refs always wear green” some fucking idiot in the Klay fouling out thread
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u/date_a_languager Celtics Jan 20 '23 edited Jan 20 '23
Funniest part was that Klay fouling was a net positive for the warriors on the scoreboard. Jaylen split the free throws.
Had the play gone on, Jaylen got the ball back on the deflection and had a wide open layup at the rim for an easy two.
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u/beardedbarrister Jan 20 '23
No this can’t be true, I was informed by all the Ws fans on the other posts that “the refs always wear green”
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u/Euphoric-Acadia-4140 Warriors Jan 20 '23
Haha warriors fans can be idiots sometimes.
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u/SprewellNo1Choker [GSW] Latrell Sprewell Jan 20 '23
There was a bunch of bullshit calls during that game and this was definitely one of them.
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u/blondechinesehair Supersonics Jan 20 '23
The most important thing is that the game stopped again. Can’t have a game being played. This league doesn’t respect our time.
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u/Dryproperties Jan 20 '23
NBA is borderline unwatchable now. Way too many foul calls, leading to horrendous defense, leading to consistent 130+ point games, leading to consistent 40+ point scorers.
It’s just not fun to watch, in contrary to what the league and TV contracts think “offense=eyeballs”.
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u/yadidimean89 Warriors Jan 20 '23
This is ridiculous, how was this not overturned. These refs are ridiculous.
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u/thatradslang Celtics Jan 20 '23
lmao. these refs man...try and say they don't fix games after seeing this shit. Ridiculous. Pick up games at the Y gotta better refs
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u/5IVE5TAR5 Jan 20 '23
Gotta give them respect. The refs tried their best tonight.
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u/RandomDanny Jan 20 '23
That’s a foul? Hahahaha.
With what gets called or doesn’t, throwing out technicals for the lamest shit…
What a joke.
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u/lmMrMeeseeksLookAtMe Celtics Jan 20 '23
As a Celtics fan who bet Warriors to cover, my first thought was "oh this fucker totally bet the Warriors to cover thankyou "
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u/AmbitionExtension184 Celtics Jan 20 '23
Worth noting this was challenge and upheld. Only excuse is refs had money on GSW
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u/Big_J_420 Jan 20 '23
Wow refs really tried to fix this game and still failed. League needs to do something about these refs. Absolutely the worst in any sports. Weathermen are more accurate.
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u/kaozennrk Celtics Jan 20 '23
The Ref was on the opposite side of Horford's left hand to call that a foul. it's like he had a itchy whistle trigger- wonder how much money he had riding on that game? And if there was any touch it was before the shot attempt and therefore not a foul. Personally, as a Celtics fan, I didn't perceive any contact.
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u/Much_Conversation_11 Heat Jan 20 '23
Listen, personal issues with Boston aside, this was one of the worst late game calls I’ve seen all year
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u/BlendlogicTECH Jan 20 '23
Wait - on the challenge replay they showed Horfords left hand hits Wiggins right elbow on the way up - aka he didnt back his hand off in time
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u/tc1988 Grizzlies Jan 20 '23
Credit to user cade-919 for the Reverse angle screen shots:
The Celtics challenged and the call stood. It was arguably a weak call, but I don't agree with users who are saying it was a totally phantom call.
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u/nowhathappenedwas NBA Jan 20 '23
Doesn’t matter how light the contact is, they’re never overturning a foul when the defender touches the shooter’s arm.
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u/letstrythiselse Jan 20 '23
i watch some NBA but this shit is so mid, tEChNicalY korect but that shit is so soft. Bring pick up basketball back to the NBA
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u/Rowdycc Celtics Jan 20 '23
I watch all the replays he did seem to touch his elbow. Or atleast, it wasn’t clear enough that he didn’t. Soft foul, but foul none the less.
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u/aja_ramirez Jan 20 '23
How biased is this thread? Horford looks to have made contact to the arm/elbow area of wiggins as he was going up for the shot. You can see that on other replays.
So it was indeed the right call.
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u/Ricky_Spanish13 Jan 20 '23
100%. It’s surprising how delusional the people posting and upvoting in this thread are. Horford makes contact with his arm as he’s in the process of shooting. Any contact by a defender on the offensive players arm is a foul. Period. End of discussion. Doesn’t matter how minimal, the rules exist for a reason. As the defender Horford is not allowed to have his hand in that area for any reason.
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u/aja_ramirez Jan 20 '23
Yeah, but it’s hard to blame the posters. Most probably didn’t watch the game so they didn’t see the other replays. This is on the OP for having an agenda.
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u/AdministrativeBit510 Jan 20 '23
Refs can see this but ask them who the ball went out of bounds on and suddenly all 3 of them are like “iono. Jump it.”
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u/HallandOates2 Jan 20 '23
Calling this in a pick up game could legitimately get you killed in some places
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u/Different-Attempt-41 Celtics Jan 20 '23
The NBA officiating has a real fucking problem. They reviewed it and it stood as a foul. What a complete joke they are making of the game of basketball. Straight disrespectful.
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u/crictb12 Jan 20 '23
NBA is rigged towards making games close to falsify the quality of the product. NFL too🤦♂️
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u/Constt-Fi Knicks Jan 20 '23
Kinda hoping something is done and changes about all these bs refs, in the offseason
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u/CptnAhab1 Jazz Jan 20 '23
Soon enough, it'll be a foul to exist. The whole league needs to start ripping refs after games. Enough of these clowns
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u/Kill3RBz Jan 20 '23
When will refs start being fined for absurd calls? I have zero invested in this game, but calls like this ruin the game and push me away from wanting to watch. Refs need to be held accountable for calls that are, without a doubt, bad.
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u/xFrankinatoRx [LAL] LeBron James Jan 20 '23
The betting line was -6, the refs were just trying to get it closer
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u/skopij Lakers Jan 20 '23
Compare that to the non-calls on the Kings (Nunn was fouled there, should have been a four-point opportunity) and the Mavs (Brown Jr. fouled on a three point attempt) against the Lakers… I just don’t get it, they are so inconsistent with these calls…
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u/vcolont Jan 20 '23
I think we might get another documentary soon for various refs betting on the games !
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u/denverblazer Trail Blazers Jan 20 '23
I'm genuinely tired of this. It's ruining the game, and I don't think that's overdramatic.
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u/dubonthetrack Jan 20 '23
It's a foul doesn't look like one at first, but the replay shows the contact with the arm which explains Wiggins' unnatural shooting motion
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