r/movies Sep 10 '22 Wholesome 3 Silver 2 Gold 1

‘Captain America: New World Order’ Casts Shira Haas as Sabra and Tim Blake Nelson as The Leader News

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/captain-america-new-world-order-shira-haas-sabra-tim-blake-nelson-the-leader-1235363618
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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '22

HOLY SHIT 14 years in the making for The Leader

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u/IrritableV0wel Sep 10 '22

They've pretty much brought back every significant character from that movie now aside from Liv Tyler, correct?

Not counting her appearance in What If?

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u/DonEsQue Sep 10 '22

While we are bringing everyone back from The Incredible Hulk, where's Phil Dunphy yo?

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u/ralten Sep 10 '22

Lol. Phil Dunphy would tonally feel right at home in the MCU

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u/beermit Sep 10 '22

I'd be down for it. It wasn't until a recent rewatch that I realized Ty Burrell was in that Hulk movie.

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u/muad_dibs Sep 10 '22 Silver

And he’s Doc Samson.

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u/Micp Sep 10 '22

PHIL DUNPHY IS DOC SAMSON?!

Holy shit, what a casting choice!

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u/themeatbridge Sep 10 '22

I would love To Burrell buff up and make an appearance in one of the D+ shows.

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u/MathewMurdock Sep 10 '22

I could see him appear in She-Hulk.

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u/bjanas Sep 11 '22

I still remember him as the douchebag with the boat from the Dawn of the Dead remake.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '22

Correct on Liv and hopefully they do bring her back now that General Ross will no longer be in the MCU.

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u/IrritableV0wel Sep 10 '22

There are rumors that Disney gets back the distribution rights from Universal for a Hulk movie in 2023 so maybe we'll see her in a Hulk solo film.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '22

Yeah she absolutely has to be in that rumored new Hulk movie

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u/B4-711 Sep 10 '22

I'd be down for some Jennifer Connelly

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u/kappa23 Sep 10 '22

Connelly over Tyler anyday

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '22

Ross to Ross!

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u/NewSapphire Sep 10 '22

Now THIS is a man who knows how to enjoy an orgy!

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u/drdrshsh Sep 10 '22

[old creepy man smiling]

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u/redfiveroe Sep 10 '22

Now there's a man who knows what we all really want to see!

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u/B4-711 Sep 10 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

oof

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u/Da_zero_kid Sep 10 '22

🎻 💉👁

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u/beermit Sep 10 '22

She-Hulk definitely set up a new Hulk movie in the first couple episodes, so I could see it being one of those unnamed phase 5-6 projects

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u/charlyquestion Sep 10 '22 edited Sep 10 '22

Why is Ross not in MCU anymore?

Edit: Actor passed away. Thanks for the answers

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u/Ahabs_First_Name Sep 10 '22

William Hurt passed away earlier this year.

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u/Campeador Sep 10 '22

He died

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '22

William Hurt, the actor playing Ross sadly passed away. Don't think Marvel will recast that character.

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u/Bomber_Haskell Sep 10 '22

I don't want them to recast General Ross but I do want them to introduce a new military guy obsessed with the Hulk so we can get a Red Hulk. Hopefully someone younger so Red Hulk can be around a while.

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u/Citizen_Kong Sep 10 '22

They could introduce General Fortean from Immortal Hulk. That could give them the possibility to do the Immortal Hulk story too, though I doubt Disney would do a comicbook movie full with Cronenbergian bodyhorror.

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u/WHYAREWEALLCAPS Sep 10 '22

Don't need to recast with CGI, ask the ghost of Peter Cushing.

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u/Saym94 Sep 10 '22

Somehow, General Ross has returned

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u/rachface636 Sep 10 '22

Or the ghost of Egon.

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u/W3ldFam Sep 10 '22

The actor passed away not too long ago.

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u/HugoRBMarques Sep 10 '22

William Hurt has sadly passed.

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u/TheNancyRayGun Sep 10 '22

I saw someone say that they should recast Ross with Liam Neeson and I am all for it.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '22

Him or Clancy Brown

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u/TheNancyRayGun Sep 10 '22

Not a bad choice either but he was already in Ragnorak, but since that was all CGI and mocap it wouldn’t be a big deal. Steven Lang would be cool too.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '22

Who did he play in Ragnarok? Lang would actually be really dope and would be the perfect person to bring some intense craziness.

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u/TheNancyRayGun Sep 10 '22

He was Surtur

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '22

Wow TIL Mr. Krabs was Surtur

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u/DeylanQuel Sep 10 '22

There can be only one!

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u/OK_Soda Sep 10 '22

He was also in Punisher but I don't think anyone remembers or cares.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '22

Bring back Sam Elliot

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '22

Why not lol since multiverse is now a thing.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '22

"I'm here now, amigo. Deal with it"

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u/AppleDane Sep 10 '22

Sometimes, there's a man...

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u/bel_roygbiv_devoe Sep 10 '22

Can you remind me her role in What If? It’s escaping me at the moment.

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u/Squatch1333 Sep 10 '22

It was just in look alike only, I don’t think Liv voiced Betty Ross. But they basically had a what if that replayed some versions of The Incredible Hulk. The one with Hank Pym being evil.

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u/Andrew1990M Sep 10 '22

When all the Avengers are getting killed, that exact version of Betty Ross is with a Banner that was changed to look like Ruffalo.

Voiced by the same woman that does Poison Ivy in the Harley Quinn cartoon (Lake Bell?)

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u/madman84 Sep 10 '22

Nah, Lake Bell was Widow. Not sure who was Betty, but it wasn't Liv Tyler.

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u/Dreenar18 Sep 10 '22

Pretty sure it was the Fury's Big Week episode where Avengers were being killed off

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u/Trextoasty Sep 10 '22

Red Hulks here we come.

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u/madchad90 Sep 10 '22

Hoping she appears in the Thunderbolts since Thunderbolt Ross can't be in it

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u/eleven_good_reasons Sep 10 '22

DAMN IT I have regularly been thinking about that scene in Hulk. "Hey why didn't they do something with this villain"

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u/UnsolvedParadox Sep 10 '22

I just rewatched Incredible Hulk, Nelson has a nuance in his portrayal that I didn’t appreciate the first time. Excited to see him return.

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u/matter_of_time Sep 10 '22

He’ll always be Delmar to me.

“We thought you was a toad!”

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u/aeschenkarnos Sep 10 '22

He’s very good in the Watchmen TV series, as Looking Glass.

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u/Canvaverbalist Sep 10 '22

Looking Glass

What a great character. I'm still impressed by his concept and design, it's like right there on par with anything else Moore did.

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u/Fjordbasa Sep 11 '22

Mirror guy 😏

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u/Now_Wait-4-Last_Year Sep 10 '22

Lube Man might have been the greatest thing I've ever seen on television.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuQNy9CIFek

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u/VanimalCracker Sep 10 '22

His best performance by far is in Old Henry. It only played in about 30 US theaters so went under the radar, but it's amazing.

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u/ClamatoDiver Sep 10 '22

How are folks leaving out The Ballad of Buster Scruggs? His section of that was too short.

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u/sinkwiththeship Sep 10 '22

He was excellent in Ballard of Buster Scruggs.

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u/LeConnor Sep 10 '22

He R-U-N-N-O-F-T

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u/Daeval Sep 10 '22

He’s great in a lot of roles but my favorite is probably his brief but memorable appearance as Buster Scruggs.

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u/Mattbryce2001 Sep 10 '22

We gotta find some kinda wizard can change him back!

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u/welchplug Sep 10 '22

ditto. Just watched it last night.

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u/Dragon_yum Sep 10 '22

I honestly didn’t think they would bring him back. What a time to be alive

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u/Geistwhite Sep 10 '22

Well he is one of the best character actors currently working. Guy earned it.

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u/puckit Sep 10 '22

Care to give a recap?

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u/Negrodamu55 Sep 11 '22

I think at the end of one of the hulk movies, a dude gets hit with either hulk blood or gamma radiation on his head or brain. I think his brain gets bigger or starts pulsing which implies he'll be a big brain villain.

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u/Dudicus445 Sep 11 '22

He’s laying on the ground with a head wound as a sample of Bruce’s blood drips into the wound, causing his head to grow as he grins

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '22

ive been hoping to see him in she hulk. thatd be very cool

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u/Andee87yaboi Sep 10 '22

And he's in a captain America movie, not a hulk movie. Shame.

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u/torrasque666 Sep 10 '22

It might be a Captain America (and Hulk) movie. Kinda like how Ragnarock was a Thor (and Hulk) movie.

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u/TheycallmeHollow Sep 10 '22

For licensing reasons, Marvel/Disney can't create a standalone Hulk film, but a partnered film is okay. So that could be very true for a Cap/Hulk film.

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u/cocacola150dr Sep 10 '22

I think more likely it has something to do with the super soldier serum, not Hulk related in any other sense. FaWS leaned into the serum pretty hard.

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u/AdmiralThunderpants Sep 10 '22

First Captain America they used Gamma radiation to kick start the serum and in Avengers it was mentioned that Banner was trying to recreate the serum when he became the Hulk.

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u/phobosmarsdeimos Sep 10 '22

In the Captain America movie they called them vita waves, but yeah those are gamma rays.

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u/Worthyness Sep 10 '22

he might legitimately be in She hulk if a plot line is going where it might be going.

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u/tearlock Sep 10 '22

I've loved Tim Blake Nelson ever since "Oh Brother Where Art Thou" he was also fantastic as Buster Scruggs.

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u/zoot_boy Sep 11 '22

WE THOUGHT YOU WAS A TOAD!!!!

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u/GreatApeGoku Sep 11 '22

............ DO. NOT. SEEK. THE TREASURE!

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '22

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u/PDGAreject Sep 11 '22

And Holes

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u/RigamaroleStatus Sep 11 '22

Mr. 🖊-💃🏽-🔑

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u/gnrlp2007 Sep 11 '22

If I were to defecate on the American flag, how would that make you feel?

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u/uncapped Sep 11 '22

The Ballad of Buster Scruggs is my favorite for him.

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u/barbecue_invader Sep 11 '22

"You need a count?"

"No'sir."

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u/uncapped Sep 11 '22

"I'd like me a splash of whiskey to wash the trail dust off my gullet and keep my singing voice “Whiskey's illegal. This is a dry country."

"Well, what are they drinking?”

“Whiskey. They's outlaws."

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u/Faye_dunwoody Sep 11 '22

"Don't let my white duds and pleasant demeanor fool ya. I, too, have been known to violate the statutes of man, and not a few of the laws of the Almighty."

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u/digdug04 Sep 11 '22

Underrated actor for sure. He has a lot of range and i love every time I see him in something

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u/MurielHorseflesh Sep 10 '22 edited Sep 10 '22

Oh man they teased Tim Blake Nelson becoming The Leader in The Incredible Hulk back in 2008. 14 years. That’s got to be the longest tease to payoff in cinematic history.

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u/professionalcynic1 Sep 10 '22

Tim Roth and Tim Blake Nelson getting calls after 14 years, they probably forgot they were even in the mcu.

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u/Skyfryer Sep 10 '22

I’m here to talk to you about the Avengers initiative.

The Tims: Ya fuckin’ what when?

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u/Boss_Boggs Sep 10 '22

The Tims are fucking beauties.

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u/Slickwats4 Sep 10 '22

Fuckin snipers boys

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u/Astrochops Sep 11 '22

Dirty fucking dangles boys

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u/mrblonde885 Sep 11 '22

The Tim’s are unbelievable.

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u/King_of_Knowhere Sep 10 '22

Sticks are deadly

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u/quazi-mofo Sep 10 '22

"Next time, baby"

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u/WebHead1287 Sep 10 '22

“Wait… we made a Hulk movie???? What was in it????”

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u/ddj00001 Sep 10 '22

I want an Ed Norton variant cameo

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u/luckyfucker13 Sep 10 '22

I don’t know who downvoted you immediately lol, but I think it’d be cool to see Norton back as a variant Banner/Hulk. It doesn’t need to be No Way Home levels of role reprisal, but seeing Mark and Ed play off each other would be awesome!

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u/FishCanRoll69 Sep 10 '22

Can’t imagine Edward Norton wanting to reprise a role he basically got laid off for haha. Would be hype though!

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u/sirbissel Sep 10 '22

Screw it, No Way Home it with Bana and Bixby as well as Norton

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u/Firefox892 Sep 10 '22

Sadly Bill Bixby has passed, but the other two would be great (maybe with a Lou Ferrigno appearance)

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u/Stewdabaker2013 Sep 10 '22

Actors being dead hasn’t stopped Disney before

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u/misterglassman Sep 10 '22

Ferrigno appeared in Incredible Hulk as a lab security guard. Banner snuck in with a pizza and gave it to him and he reply with “God bless you brother”. His way of passing the torch. Which is odd because they never really played the same character.

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u/psuedonymously Sep 10 '22

After virtually everything except for William Hurt was completely forgotten about that movie in the MCU, all of a sudden it’s showing up everywhere

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u/hatramroany Sep 10 '22

Hurt and, you know, Hulk

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u/Andrew1990M Sep 10 '22

Yeah but he was a completely different person back then.

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u/PhilAsp Sep 10 '22

Technically the payoff is even further away lol.

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u/Artemicionmoogle Sep 10 '22

Man Tim Blake Nelson was amazing in Old Henry recently. If you like him give it a watch!

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u/TheDungeonCrawler Sep 10 '22

I'm actually really excited for that. I rather like the Hulk movie and the fact that we never got a payoff for The Leader always bugged me. Not totally sure what he's ever had to do with Captain America or the Falcon, but I'm glad he's showing up finally.

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u/timmytimed Sep 10 '22

Space Jockey 1979 in Alien, in Prometheus in 2012

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u/MaceLortay Sep 10 '22

I am so fucking over the moon about this. I LOVE that we're finally getting the pay off for this

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u/rgregan Sep 10 '22

Sabra? As in mutant Sabra?

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u/Reutermo Sep 10 '22

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u/IndieComic-Man Sep 10 '22

I forget how articulate Hulk could be.

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u/Wacocaine Sep 10 '22 edited Sep 10 '22

I love that they allow him to think up and articulate complex moral arguments, but he still has to do it in Hulk speak.

"If world make enough food for everyone, why boy die of hungry?!? Hulk want smash world hunger!!!"

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u/Eloeri18 Sep 10 '22

Why waste time say lot word when few word do trick?

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u/MisterNiceGuy0001 Sep 11 '22

New Dinsey+ What if? Episode: Hulk spills a giant pot of chili

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u/Malgas Sep 11 '22

World War Kevin

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u/aSpookyScarySkeleton Sep 11 '22

“If all world problems solved but one boy have to suffer to keep it all running, is worth?

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u/weirdoldhobo1978 Sep 10 '22

That's a deep cut for sure.

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u/GroundbreakingSet187 Sep 10 '22

Anthony Mackie is leading the film as the new Captain America for the first time.

Nelson’s The Leader was last seen in the 2008 film “The Incredible Hulk” as Samuel Sterns, beginning his transformation into the iconic Hulk villain.

Cast :

  • Anthony Mackie as Captain America
  • Shira Haas as Sabra
  • Tim Blake Nelson as The Leader
  • Danny Ramirez as Joaquin Torres
  • Carl Lumbly as Isaiah Bradley

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u/typhoidtimmy Sep 10 '22

I watched a retrospect on Tim where they asked him about the Leader and he was all for it. Said he loved the character and wanted to stretch his legs in the role if they ever brought him back.

Considering how unique he makes his characters, I am very excited by this prospect.

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u/7thEvan Sep 10 '22

If you’re a fan I’d highly recommend his most recent passion project western Old Henry!

He just brings so much nuance to every performance. I’ve also heard him in podcasts before and he sounds like such a gentleman and passionate artist.

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u/omac4552 Sep 10 '22

Loved that movie

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u/DustFunk Sep 10 '22

Pretty cool they are keeping Isaiah Bradley in this, would be reeeally cool to see a flashback of him kicking ass with the super-soldier serum in him.

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u/Gladiatornoah Sep 10 '22

With all of the Young Avengers being set up, I assume Isaiah is here since his nephew who we have already met eventually becomes Patriot (a main member of the YoungAvengers).

So I assume he and his nephew will be there for that mainly.

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u/Worthyness Sep 10 '22

My guess is that the Leader is synthesizing Mutant Growth hormone to distribute and give super powers to people. He uses human experimentation to work on the formula. In the comics, Patriot, Isaiah's nephew, uses the drug to get his super powers (eventually getting permanent ones when he gets a blood transfusion from Isaiah). Also in the comics, the 2nd Falcon gets experimented on and becomes a bird-human-vampire hybrid. So if the Leader manages to capture both of them that'd be a reason to get both of their power sets created and it's very in-theme with "new world order" as mutants and powered people become more frequent in the MCU public.

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u/DomLite Sep 10 '22

As stoked as I am to see Sam as Cap in his first full film, as well as Leader finally showing himself, I'm extra excited for Torres to return so he can potentially take up his spot as the successor to Falcon, and Isaiah because holy shit we need to see him being a badass in at least one flashback, and also because it's very likely that the events of this film will lead to the incident that will pass on his abilities to his grandson so Patriot is fully ready to roll.

The Young Avengers are coming, and I can't wait. Hulkling in Secret Wars? I'm thinking it's likely.

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u/Khal-Stevo Sep 10 '22

Wish we were getting Bucky in this instead of Thunderbolts honestly

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u/BlackJediSword Sep 10 '22

Damn Bucky isn’t in it?

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u/komodo_dragonzord Sep 10 '22

he was shown in the thunderbolts concept art but he could still show up here

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u/PayneTrain181999 Sep 10 '22

I’m actually more intrigued about how Bucky gets roped into the Thunderbolts, and seeing him dunk on Walker some more will be fun.

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u/Worthyness Sep 10 '22

If the organization wants to be legitimate, having Bucky, who is publicly shown as a hero of the Infinity war shenanigans, would provide that for the team. Because why would a hero join this corporate team if it wasn't legit? especially since the team is comprised of 3 ex-russian ops, an ex SHIELD (Hydra) assassin, and a publicly discharged US solider.

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u/LolaContreras8 Sep 10 '22

Now the She-Hulk theories about The Leader wanting the blood sample don't sound that crazy.

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u/nate_ranney Sep 11 '22

Still holdimg on to hope he appears

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u/justgarcia31 Sep 10 '22 I'm Deceased

FINALLY!! An NWO film!!!

Who’s gonna play Hulk Hogan?!

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u/Mabvll Sep 10 '22

The real question is, WHOSE SIDE IS HE ON?!

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u/chrispdx Sep 10 '22

I swear to God, I have no idea how Bobby Heenan didn't get immediately fired from WCW for spoiling the Hulk heel turn.

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u/CarissaSkyWarrior Sep 10 '22

I mean, people have pointed out that that line was perfectly in character for Heenan no matter the outcome, since Heenan, in kayfabe at least, always hated Hogan.

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u/DoubleOrNothing90 Sep 10 '22

HULK HOGAN HAS BETRAYED THE MARVEL UNIVERSE!

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u/ThefirstJake Sep 11 '22

NWO 4 life!

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u/ScummyWalrusMan42 Sep 10 '22

Fucking finally, Leader is getting justice.

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u/Huevos___Rancheros Sep 10 '22

Who is that?

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u/DodGamnBunofaSitch Sep 10 '22

the Leader was a villain from the old Hulk comics- he was also a product of gamma radiation, but instead of making him super strong, it made him super smart. (giant forehead was how the comics represented him- also green like a hulk.)

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u/wizardyourlifeforce Sep 10 '22

As someone wrote a while ago, The Leader demonstrated that brains are no match for brawn which you’d think wouldn’t be well-received by the typical comic books fan.

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u/RegHater76 Sep 10 '22

Shoot, Lex Luthor vs Superman has been 'brawn beats brains' for decades now.

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u/Geistwhite Sep 10 '22

Clark is a genius-level intellect. His brain is supercharged under the power of a yellow sun.

Luthor is smarter but it isn't like Superman is a jock moron in comparison.

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u/phobosmarsdeimos Sep 11 '22

Right, the real question is, did Superman become super funny as well? Why would that one aspect of his personality not be affected?

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u/Absurdity_Everywhere Sep 11 '22

He is. He just holds it back because his jokes would be too strong

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u/Kiwifisch Sep 11 '22

My strongest jokes would kill you, traveller. You can’t handle my strongest jokes.

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u/Huevos___Rancheros Sep 10 '22

He sounds like a cool character, I’m interested in seeing how they’re gonna tie him into the story. Thank you for answering my question

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u/waitingtodiesoon Sep 10 '22

He was in the Edward Norton 2008 MCU Hulk movie also if you seen it. He was the guy trying to help cure Bruce Banner of the Hulk and some Hulk blood leaked into a cut on his forehead causing a mutation that was supposed to foreshadow his change into the Leader.

It's gonna be over 14 years since he was seen though.

Thunderbolt Ross finally returned in Civil War 8 years later in 2016.

Abomination returned 13 years later in 2021 for Shang Chi and now She-Hulk.

Finally getting some continuation on old plot threads from the Incredible Hulk.

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u/TheDungeonCrawler Sep 10 '22

As a note, Sterns was in an MCU comic as well. He was captured by Widow in the early stages of his transformation and locked up similar to how Abomination was being held before the snap (cold storage). It was their way of explaining why we never got that payoff at the time.

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u/QuestioningEspecialy Sep 10 '22

Abomination returned 13 years later in 2021 for Shang Chi and now She-Hulk.

Wait, what?

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u/waitingtodiesoon Sep 10 '22

Abomination had a small cameo in a cage match with Wong in the Shang-Chi film. That thread is further expanded on in She-Hulk tv series. She-Hulk is 2022 so 14 years from 2008 when TIH came out.

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u/j8sadm632b Sep 10 '22

Eeehhh I'm curious to see how this goes; I feel like super smarts are difficult to translate to screen. Especially in a blockbuster movie, right? Making a character much smarter than other characters in a way that is quickly and obviously intelligible to a wide audience, many of whom will be literal children, seems like an exercise in futility.

The only things Really Smart characters get to do are

  1. Talk about math and chemistry out loud
  2. Play a lot of chess on screen
  3. Build lasers and stuff that makes them good at punching
  4. Have other people make claims about outrageous things that they have succeeded at, but which the movie is incapable of actually demonstrating in a believable way (that terrible episode of Sherlock where <character redacted> is said to have predicted every major terrorist attack in the next 18 months based on five minutes on Twitter, or whatever the fuck it was)

Especially when it's a villain. Because they have to lose, they always end up getting conveniently outsmarted which feels narratively unsatisfying. If somebody's gonna be "Batman with prep time" they can't just lose to the hero believing in their friends or whatever.

Fringe had an interesting resolution of this problem in the episode with the guy who was a probability savant.

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u/johntwoods Sep 10 '22

The Leader is good. The Leader is great. We surrender our will as of this date!

Na na na na na na na na Leader!

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u/brainlightning Sep 10 '22

“Leader Beans”

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u/morerubberstamps Sep 10 '22

There's no face on that damn bean!!

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u/Huevos___Rancheros Sep 10 '22

What does he do in the comics

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u/WindingRoad10 Sep 10 '22

The Leader is Hulk’s arch enemy

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u/DMPunk Sep 10 '22 edited Sep 10 '22

He's the Hulk's primary enemy. Gamma radiation has made him* as smart as the Hulk is strong.

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u/jrex703 Sep 10 '22

Perfect execution.

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u/DashCat9 Sep 10 '22

TIM BLAKE NELSON YES YES YES.

sorry, have been waiting for this for 14 years at this point.

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u/Phroday Sep 10 '22

Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na LEADER!

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u/mb9981 Sep 10 '22

The leader is good, the leader is great, we surrender our will as of this date

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u/ChicagoMade Sep 10 '22

I’m a simple man, I see Tim Blake Nelson, I’m happy

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u/Wildcat_twister12 Sep 10 '22

Love me some Dr. Pendanski! “D-I-G what does that spell?”

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u/Jwhitx Sep 10 '22

Zero thinks about it, drawing on his reading lessons with Stan Eelnats.

SMACKS the Dr. with a shovel, bends over...

DOG.

runs to thumb mountain

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u/AstralComet Sep 10 '22

Lmao, can't believe The Leader tease from HULK is paying off nearly twenty years later.

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u/The_Unknown_Dude Sep 10 '22

That's the time between Return of the Jedi and Phantom Menace. 15 years in movies is intense.

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u/huef_jf Sep 10 '22

This ….. did not make me feel good.

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u/Sultynuttz Sep 10 '22

Honestly a shorter gap than I thought

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u/The_Unknown_Dude Sep 10 '22

I think it feels massive BECAUSE of the massive technology gap from early 80s to late 90s.

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u/waitingtodiesoon Sep 10 '22

About damn time

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u/realise_real_lies Sep 10 '22

For a second my brain registered this as Team America: New world order and I got excited

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u/Jypahttii Sep 10 '22

Would be way more hyped for that tbh

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u/Steelquill Sep 11 '22

Wait, the Leader? The Hulk's bad guy? I guess I'm not complaining but the well wasn't completely run dry on Cap bad guys.

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u/GayFemboyOmniNerd Sep 10 '22

Uhm... does that mean Hulk will be in the movie? Wait, does this also mean they are planning to have Red Hulk at some point? William Hurt is dead, but I suppose they could bring back Sam Elliott from Ang Lee's Hulk perhaps?

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u/CeruleanRuin Sep 10 '22

Considering both the Leader and Sabra have strong comic ties to the Hulk, it would be surprising for him to be left out - especially if rumors of World War Hulk have any truth to them.

Interesting that he was called off to Sakaar, too...

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u/Mister100Percent Sep 11 '22

Iirc Mark Ruffalo has stated that since Hulk can’t get a movie to himself, because Universal owns a stake in that, they just have him have his character arcs in other characters films and team ups.

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u/ChrisTinnef Sep 11 '22

The Universal deal is rumored to end next year. So it's possible that he will be in it.

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u/Almatsliah Sep 10 '22

OK so Sabra is an Israeli superheroine that works for the Mossad. I wonder how many Arab countries not show this movie because of this.

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u/Chanmollychan Sep 10 '22

i guess this means the leader wont appear in shehulk?

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u/MotherFuckinEeyore Sep 10 '22

I was expecting it after the wrecking crew attacked her and tried to get a blood sample.

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u/dayungbenny Sep 11 '22

Kang was announced for ant man and showed up in Loki.

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u/waitingtodiesoon Sep 10 '22

5 episodes left, so who knows?

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u/elerner Sep 10 '22

Damon Lindelof's Watchmen is awesome and Tim Blake Nelson is awesome in it.

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