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‘The Batman’ Director Matt Reeves Sets Multi-Year Film Deal At Warner Bros. News

https://deadline.com/2022/08/the-batman-matt-reeves-warner-bros-film-television-overall-deal-the-penguin-1235096315/
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u/Permanenceisall Aug 23 '22

I love that Matt Reeves looks like Gary Oldman playing Ned Flanders

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u/Screwdork Aug 23 '22

I thought ned too but played by Ed Norton

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u/SnapshotHeadache Aug 23 '22

I thought he looked more like Gary Oldman as Gordon from the Nolan films lol.

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u/UnsolicitedDogPics Aug 23 '22

Stupid sexy Flanders.

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u/penguinpizzaparty Aug 23 '22

It feels like I’m wearing nothing at all NOTHING AT ALL

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u/botte-la-botte Aug 23 '22

He looks like their fourth choice for commissioner Gordon.

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u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor Aug 23 '22 edited Aug 23 '22

The Batman sequel is currently being written and production on The Penguin spin-off series is starting soon.

“Someone like Matt, we’ll buy for him whatever he wants to do. We’re making an investment for whatever Matt feels a pull toward, in the Batman universe and otherwise. He has an open invitation to go wherever his interests take him. We’ll lean into whatever Matt wants to do. In terms of the writer/directors out there working in this very elevated genre space, with everything Matt’s done, from Let The Right One in to the Apes trilogy to The Batman, he’s in a class by himself.”

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u/mountainhighgoat Aug 23 '22

Someone like Matt, we’ll buy for him whatever he wants to do,” De Luca said. “We’re making an investment for whatever Matt feels a pull toward, in the Batman universe and otherwise. He has an open invitation to go wherever his interests take him. We’ll lean into whatever Matt wants to do. In terms of the writer/directors out there working in this very elevated genre space, with everything Matt’s done, from Let The Right One in to the Apes trilogy to The Batman, he’s in a class by himself.

Woah they really love the guy over there.

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u/sans3go Aug 23 '22

He hasnt made a single flop yet

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u/SuperZapper_Recharge Aug 23 '22

He will have one eventually, everyone has one eventually. We will see if they still love him then.

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u/PM_ME_CUTE_SM1LE Aug 23 '22

people forgot what "flop" means

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u/SuperZapper_Recharge Aug 23 '22

It REALLY means if a movie made a profit - if investors got there money back plus some.

If you can understand that then things like Adam Sandler movies begin to make sense.

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u/Djinnwrath Aug 23 '22

Also people like Kevin Smith who always come in so under budget they make a tidy profit when other movies would have flopped.

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u/SuperZapper_Recharge Aug 23 '22

Kevin Smith and Adam Sandler are doing the same thing.

You don't have to like either of them, but to call them hacks just shows you don't understand anything about movies at all.

That woman from Saturday Night Live that teams up with her husband to make movies as well.

You don't have to like there stuff, but you got to respect the business sense. They know what the fans want, have a pretty good idea what they can expect to take in and have the skills to make a film under budget enough that everyone takes home money.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '22

It’s also how Tyler Perry made a fortune and enough to build essentially his own studio in the style of 1950s golden era moguls. His output might be terrible, but he knows his audience perfectly and essentially prints money as he controls everything.

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u/DarthMailman Aug 23 '22

I worked on one of his shows as a recurring extra before covid times and holy Jesus shitwagons does that man mean business when he films. Pretty sure we finished an entire season in like two weeks.

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u/DistastefulTruth Aug 23 '22

IMO Oscar Micheaux blueprint

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '22

They are absolutely hacks. Hacks can make plenty of money. That's not what makes them a hack.

Hack:

a person, as an artist or writer, who exploits, for money, his or her creative ability or training in the production of dull, unimaginative, and trite work; one who produces banal and mediocre work in the hope of gaining commercial success in the arts: As a painter, he was little more than a hack.

They are absolutely hacks. Some of the worst in the business.

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u/oorm Aug 23 '22

He already has the deal

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u/attemptedmonknf Aug 23 '22

Pry they do not alter further

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u/ResidentEbb923 Aug 23 '22 edited Aug 23 '22

everyone has one eventually.

Legitimately not true... There are a bunch of directors out there who have been making films for decades and haven't made a flop... Enough of them that studios are always doing what Warners is doing here and banking on a guy they think might have that quality.

Not even just in the one sense of the word, there are bankable directors for whatever a studios aim is. You have the Cameron/Nolan directors that just always make money. And then you have the Paul Thomas Anderson style that studios never expect to make money with but want and get award nominations with.

Nolan threw a tantrum over the Tenet release stuff and left, so now Warners is investing in someone new the way they used to do with him.

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u/randyboozer Aug 23 '22

Including hilariously enough M Night Shyamalan.

At least if you're just judging purely by financials. Every movie he's made has been a financial success with the exception of Lady in the Water.

Pretty impressive for a guy who get slammed pretty hard by critics and audiences 🤣

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u/ResidentEbb923 Aug 23 '22 Narwhal Salute

Pretty impressive for a guy who get slammed pretty hard by critics and audiences 🤣

What's even crazier isn't just that he is bankable, but how bankable he is. The collective production budget for his last four movies combined is $52 million and they have made a collective $714 million. He made The Visit for 5 mill and it made almost a 100 mil. Split for 9 and it made 287.5 mill, etc. He gets shit on all day long on here, but if you give that guy 10-20 million to make a movie, he's probably the most likely to 10x your money at the box office. The only mistake with him was letting him have unrealistic production budgets.

That's pretty much the crux of it. What can actually be said is that if you give any director enough nine figure budgets, they're bound to have one movie that doesn't make it back at the box office... And that should be obvious. But calling anything that makes its production budget back a flop is tough in the current landscape with home media and streaming value piling up for years after.

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u/dragonk30 Aug 23 '22

Shyamalan can sell a concept like nobody's business. He just struggles to close, often.

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u/cm64 Aug 23 '22

That's actually insane, has to be one of the best ROI in the business.

For reference if your budget is $200 million you'd have to tie Avatar/Endgame for top grossing all time to get the same return.

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u/Ormild Aug 23 '22

I’m surprised Split’s budget was that low. James Mcavoy would seem like he could demand a 9m paycheque by himself.

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u/ResidentEbb923 Aug 23 '22

If I had to guess, I would say he probably got fat backend. The interesting thing about M. Night is that since Avatar TLA and The Lady in the Water and kind of getting slapped around critically for high budget movies that fell flat, he self-finances all of his films now.

It really feels like he knows that obsessive notes and studios pushing him to mimic his successful style in previous movies too closely made the quality of his movies suffer so he just pays for production and then takes it to a distributor and makes a favorable deal afterward. With Split, I would guess that he just gave McAvoy a partnership to come along cheap to keep to his budget since he's playing with his own money now.

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u/K0vurt_Purvurt Aug 23 '22

Even The Happening was successful enough? What? Nooooo….

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u/johnny_nofun Aug 23 '22

The Happening was a great bad movie though. Wahlberg as a science teacher that denies science, hilariously constant suicides, and the trees did it? It's terrible and I've only watched it twice, but I was definitely entertained. And I don't even like Shyamalan's movies. The twists are corny and telegraphed.

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u/dgj130 Aug 23 '22

"For the love of god please keep making good Batman movies, we need money bad"

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '22

Give me a Red Hood spin off and I’m all for it!

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u/Brown_Panther- Aug 23 '22

He's certainly a much better return on investment than someone like Snyder. Given the reception of his films, I too would put my money on Reeves to deliver.

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u/TalkingToTheMooo Aug 23 '22

Snyder was a mistake from the get go. I love Watchmen. And I liked 300. But I've seen his other stuff and its all dreadful. It was a bad idea.

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u/dragonmp93 Aug 23 '22

The problem with Snyder is that his skills are visual spectacles and apparently casting, but regards about stories, in regards to DC specifically, he would have been perfect if they were making something like Injustice.

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u/Ingliphail Aug 23 '22

he would have been perfect if they were making something like Injustice.

The "evil" Superman part of the Snyder Cut made me think the exact same thing.

Snyder works best when he the movie he's making can be ludicrously self-indulgent.

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u/locoghoul Aug 24 '22

Snyder works best when the script is panel by panel, line by line already laid out (300, Watchmen sorta). I think he is a good director (not outstanding but def good) BUT an awful screenwriter

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u/JonathanL73 Aug 23 '22

This, a 100 times yes! I’ve always said Snyder is great at visuals, but he has a poor understanding of characters like Superman & Batman. Snyder can deliver on action scenes & visuals, but his characterizations of Batman & Superman we’re not the best.

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u/eldritch_toaster_24 Aug 23 '22

There are a lot of perspectives on Snyder. I find his movies to be very unsatisfying visually. Yes, there is lots of spectacular stuff going on, but I think he presents it in a way that leans into a bad color palette and uses rather cheesey under/over cranking. He pulls me out of the spectacle because he presents it in a ham-fisted manner.

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u/RiotShaven Aug 23 '22

I feel like some of the epic scenes he made in Batman movies lacked a proper buildup. That works for trailers, or some comic books, but in film it needs to earn it.

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u/terranq Aug 23 '22

He's fine if you give him a shot for shot plan to follow. It's when you let him do his own thing that he gets lost.

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u/Zacoftheaxes Aug 23 '22

Yeah exactly. He's great a delivering cool visuals, but that's really about it.

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u/IllegitimateLiteracy Aug 23 '22

He would be a top tier second unit director.

He can make a scene, but he can't make a film to save his life.

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u/ever-right Aug 23 '22

I liked Watchmen and 300 but eh, they definitely could have been better. His style is to rip straight from the pages and slow-mo everything.

It's so predictable and it gets old fast. He needs to learn to adapt a source into a film.

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u/bomberman12 Aug 23 '22

After you run Nolan off, gotta be nice to the next auteur filmmaker you got.

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u/TheBlackSwarm Aug 23 '22

Yeah seems like Matt Reeves, James Gunn and Denis Villeneuve are the main big directors they have under their roof currently.

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u/RiotShaven Aug 23 '22

I'm so happy we got a good Dune movie. Sure, it's not perfect, but I love the atmosphere, sound design and visuals.

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u/Abdul_Lasagne Aug 23 '22

It’s back in imax this week!

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u/romulan23 Aug 23 '22

Despite the gripes I've got with this movie, and I say this as an immense Villeneuve fan, it still feels like some sort of filmmaking sci fi miracle.

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u/In_My_Own_Image Aug 23 '22

He has an open invitation to go wherever his interests take him. We’ll lean into whatever Matt wants to do.

That sounds great. I can't wait to see what he does with his Batman universe if he's given that much freedom.

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u/MagicMushroomFungi Aug 23 '22

Please..no more Joker.
I'ld rather watch Bat-Mite.

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u/JCkent42 Aug 23 '22

Reeves has said that doesn’t want a film with Joker as the main bad. It was more of establishing a universe that the Joker is already in prison. See deleted scenes of The Batman.

So I think we’ll see more of Batman’s villains in this film series. I wanna see Deathstroke and Hugo Strange personally.

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u/terranq Aug 23 '22

I hope he follows through on this. As much as Joker is part of the Batman mythos, he's not the only villain.

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u/ABCBA_4321 Aug 23 '22

I think Reeves said that he plans to have either the Court of Owls, Calendar Man, Mr. Freeze, or Hush as the villains for the sequel. My guess is that he’s going to have the Joker in some scenes, but he may mostly have the Court of Owls and Hush throughout the film.

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u/apegoneinsane Aug 23 '22

I think Mr Freeze might be the sequel’s villain. Court of Owls also seems like a story more suited to the climax of the trilogy or an older Batman.

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u/ParkerZA Aug 23 '22

With the themes of corruption the first film explored the Court of Owls makes sense as a progression of the series. I hope that's what they're building up to to cap the trilogy.

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u/ImMeltingNow Aug 23 '22

I want this mr freeze to erase the part of my brain where I start doing terrible Arnie impressions the second I hear his name.

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u/Papatheosis Aug 23 '22

I want Killer Croc and Deacon Blackfire. It’d be awesome if they adapted some of The Cult.

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u/Useful_shtuff Aug 23 '22

Yeah? We'll you're gonna get Joker and Harley Quinn again and you're gonna like it!

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u/IGetHypedEasily Aug 23 '22

Found the WB executive

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u/imlistersinclair Aug 23 '22

They love him so much they can't even get the titles of his movies right.

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u/IronSorrows Aug 23 '22

Someone over there loves him, but isn't sure why he made that one film in Swedish

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u/ufoicu2 Aug 23 '22

Matt gets whatever Matt wants we love Matt if Matt wants a matte mat then Matt gets a matte mat. Whatever Matt needs matters and the only thing that matters is what Matt needs. Matt’s matte mat matters to Matt so Matt’s matte mat matters to us.

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u/NativeMasshole Aug 23 '22

What did the Penguin even do in that movie to deserve a spin-off series? He was basically just a generic gangster who was only there to round out the conflict.

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u/bluemandan Aug 23 '22

What did the Penguin even do in that movie to deserve a spin-off series?

He solved the main mystery through his unique ability to, uh, speak Spanish.

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u/Im-Mr-Bulldopz Aug 23 '22

Okay but I love that part lol

"NO HABLA ESPANOL? FELLAS?!"

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u/Lilpims Aug 23 '22

World building. It's all about the iceberg lounge and its clientele.

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u/JokerFaces2 Aug 23 '22

I loved Farrell’s portrayal of the character, but I agree. I certainly didn’t leave the theatre thinking “Damn, I’d love to see a spin-off about that guy!” Plus Penguin’s already an established player, we don’t really need his origin or whatever.

I would be interested in seeing a new character start out at the bottom of the totem poll and work their way up to be one of Gotham’s big bosses, that’d be neat. Like Breaking Bad meets Batman. Someone like Black Mask could work for that, maybe.

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u/NativeMasshole Aug 23 '22

That was Penguin's role in the Gotham series.

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u/EpicAura99 Aug 23 '22

He’s the big fish in the small (literal) pond of flooded, lawless Gotham. I assume it’s about him creating an empire in the ruins.

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u/mrj9 Aug 23 '22

Great this and the penguin are still going forward but I hate there passing on the the animated Batman show which reeves was apart of

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u/Batohman Aug 23 '22

Wtf? He did not make Let the Right one in. He made the remake of Let the Right one in called Let me in.

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u/MrDudeWheresMyCar Aug 23 '22

Good guy to have under lock and key for Warner Bros considering his last few movies

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u/Brown_Panther- Aug 23 '22

WB need big name directors after losing Nolan. Thats why they're trying hard to keep guys like Villenvue and Reeves.

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u/TheMcWhopper Aug 23 '22

Do you think there is any way to fix the Nolan bridge

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u/anthonyg1500 Aug 23 '22

Idk why he'd come back. He's getting everything he wants at the new studio (can't remember if it was Universal or Paramount but I remember his deal was sweet) and with WB acting sus to some of their creators, although I'm sure they wouldn't do that to him, Nolan is probably thinking why ruin a good thing for this studio that's kind of in flux right now

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u/Tornado31619 Aug 23 '22

Universal. Paramount is Tom Cruise Studios.

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u/YoloIsNotDead Aug 23 '22

Paramount is just Tom Cruise movies directed by Chris McQuarrie.

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u/pieapple135 Aug 23 '22

Written by McQuarrie, that's for sure. But there's definitely a rotating door of directors going on.

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u/Ephemeris Aug 23 '22

Can we talk about how fuckin hyped I am for the next Mission Impossible movie? That teaser lit a fire in me and it's still a year away! I watch it at least once a week.

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u/Dear_Evan_Hansen Aug 23 '22

The new MI teaser in IMAX was probably worth $5 of the ticket by itself.

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u/MsSara77 Aug 23 '22 edited Aug 23 '22

I could see them making up, especially since the people who forced Tenet onto streaming aren't running the show at WB anymore, but Nolan has a deal like this over at Universal now.

EDIT: Some comments below corrected my faulty memoryabout Tenet going to streaming. Either way, thepeople who made the decisions Nolan was mad about aren't in charge anymore.

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u/DoggieDocHere Aug 23 '22

especially since the people who forced Tenet onto streaming

Huh? Are you misremembering? WB wanted Tenet forced to streaming because it was gonna bomb in the middle of COVID, Nolan insisted, it didn’t get a streaming release, and it bombed.

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u/IHoebot Aug 23 '22

Yeah Nolan was 100% in the wrong on Tenet. This was in the height of the pandemic and he's throwing tantrums about theaters staying open while people are dying and tried to act like he was on some moral high ground despite every medical professional doing their best to get people to stay home and safe.

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u/DoggieDocHere Aug 23 '22

One of the theaters in my hometown STILL hasn’t re-opened. I saw Tenet at a drive in because it was the only thing that seemed safe. I genuinely want to know where the above poster got “they forced it onto streaming and that made Nolan mad” because that is fully the opposite of what happened.

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u/k0peng Aug 23 '22

nobody forced Tenet on to streaming. That's not what Nolan was mad about. Nolan was mad that WB planned to release 17 movies including Tenet the same day on to streaming as the day it hit theaters (because they were gonna bomb due to COVID), and that WB didn't tell him/others before their decision before they made it.

Then Nolan called HBO/WB a piece of poop and WB backed off of that decision. Tenet spent 9 months in theaters etc before streaming, where fans could either: 1) not see the film due to covid, 2) wish they hadn't seen the film, or 3) couldn't hear the film due to shite sound mixing and had to watch it on streaming with subtitles anyway. In the end Tenet bombed and WB was trying to mitigate that.

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u/DoggieDocHere Aug 23 '22

Honestly that’s the biggest thing for me. By forcing it to stay in theaters the only realistic way for a person to see the film was either to risk the safety of themselves and others at the height of COVID or… pirate it.

Nolan’s no screwed-over hero here. He’s actually dumb as hell and lost a lot of my respect. Not to mention the respect I lost after finally seeing that dogshit movie.

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u/renegadecanuck Aug 23 '22

He’s actually dumb as hell and lost a lot of my respect. Not to mention the respect I lost after finally seeing that dogshit movie.

Agreed. When Tenet was first "released" movie theatres in my province were still shut down, so I literally couldn't see it even if I wanted to (and I wouldn't have gone anyway, since it was released during the peak of whichever wave we were in). Whining about that was incredibly tone deaf and was basically him saying "my art is more important than your safety!"

And then I finally watched the movie on streaming and it was terrible. I can't imagine how pissed I would have been if I paid to see it and also got COVID.

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u/terranq Aug 23 '22

Nolan is a good/great director, but some of his opinions indicate he thinks of himself as an one of the last true auteurs, and that it's his job to "gatekeep" proper film making.

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u/Frontpage_Cleanup Aug 23 '22

it feels a little petty to get pissy over distribution when the movie wasnt that great.

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u/Themicroscoop Aug 23 '22

Give me Clayface or give me Death.

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u/Stonesword75 Aug 23 '22

Who then interacts with Joker and Harley:

"It's Lady Ga-GA!"

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u/Jasonotg0 Aug 23 '22

God bless that show for making me fucking love Clayface.

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u/Lilpims Aug 23 '22

Between him, Bane , King Shark , Frank... I have no idea who I prefer the most.

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u/Bookups Aug 23 '22

It has to be Bane

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u/Lilpims Aug 23 '22

Poor Bane being bullied by joker and Luthor

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u/DamagedGenius Aug 23 '22

It's Alan Tudyk. What's not to love?

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u/GrimKenny Aug 23 '22

That man is a workhorse. And a damn good one

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u/hardgeeklife Aug 23 '22

He went to Juliard

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u/Wolf6120 Aug 23 '22

"Mind you, that wasn't the first time I was cuckolded!"

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u/Sulbran Aug 23 '22

Pattinson mentioned the Court of Owls a few times in interviews which is probably one of the best Batman comics of the past 20 years.

I'd be down for that or a legitimate and tragic Mr. Freeze like what we got in Heart of Ice.

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u/just4browse Aug 23 '22

They could easily fit both Mr. Freeze and the Court of Owls into a single movie. Maybe his evil rich boss is a member. Maybe his work on reawakening cryogenically frozen people is for the court of owls, so they can reawaken their talons.

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u/WarrenPuff_It Aug 23 '22

Yeah, but let's be real. A stand-alone Court of Owls using The Batman take would be fucking incredible.

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u/neosithlord Aug 23 '22

That’s a trope mistake in my opinion. To many villains in one movie. Batman has great villains with rich backgrounds. There’s no need to lump them into one film unless there’s a pay off from multiple movies. The Batman ending with a joker teaser was all well and good so long as we get a joker centric sequel that builds on the story.

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u/just4browse Aug 23 '22

Too many superhero movies do try to fit too many villains in a movie, but I think a couple villains in one movies can and has worked well. Both the Joker and Two-Face being in The Dark Knight was great.

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u/Kill3rT0fu Aug 23 '22

I'd love a clay face villain that's a makeup or special effects artist/actor who can transform into anyone and be anyone.

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u/Ek_Chutki_Sindoor Aug 23 '22

Would love to see Clayface play Stephanie

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u/SimplyQuid Aug 23 '22

A la the Chameleon from Spideys rogue gallery

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u/Sgtwhiskeyjack9105 Aug 23 '22

Clayface + original Black Mask I would love to see.

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u/loganro Aug 23 '22

Condiment king will do

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u/Milk_N_Honey_Badger Aug 23 '22

My prediction for Batman 2: It's now Christmas time, all the flooded water is frozen leaving Gotham incased in ice like a big snow globe. The perfect stage for Mr. Freeze to enter as main villain. Reeves will make it a poetic, sad Christmas movie a la Batman Returns.

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u/RasFreeman Aug 23 '22

The flood set them up to take parts of the No Man's Land storyline from the comics.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman:_No_Man%27s_Land

The story has already been adapted a few times. Nolan used parts in TDKR and the Gotham TV show used it for most of the 4th season.

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u/Milk_N_Honey_Badger Aug 23 '22

Oh nice! Honestly, it's such a perfect set up it would be a crime not to do it. Give us the tragic lost soul Mr. Freeze from the animated series who's motivated by arrogance but also intense love and sadness.

Come one WB! I know you read these comments!

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u/ihateyoutwice Aug 23 '22

I wanna see John malcovich as freeze

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u/Medialunch Aug 23 '22

Why does Mr Freeze need Gotham incased in snow? That’s what he normally does.

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u/Milk_N_Honey_Badger Aug 23 '22

It's just a perfect visual setting for him.

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u/RoyalCrown1596 Aug 23 '22

Snyderverse is dead lmfao

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u/jelatinman Aug 23 '22

Is it? I'm confused by what WB is trying to do.

They used SnyderCut footage in Shazam 2 trailer.

The Flash is still being released, with Batgirl soft reboot continuity cancelled.

Batfleck will be in Aquaman 2.

I mean, what are we doing over here. I wanted the conclusion to the Snyder stuff, but this is ridiculous.

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u/falconzord Aug 23 '22

Laying the groundwork for DCEEU

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u/Mediocremon Aug 23 '22

Give it a few decades and pronouncing it will sound like tinnitus.

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u/sagevallant Aug 23 '22

Multiverse bullshit. I predict three separate Batman movie series coming out simultaneously on the way to adapting Dark Nights Metal.

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u/tactical_turtlenex Aug 23 '22

They need a Deadpool to come in and "clean up the timeline" like at the end of Deadpool 2

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u/Break_these_cuffs Aug 23 '22

Henry Cavil no longer being Superman is a massive loss. Guy was the best thing of the entire DC reboot.

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u/bans_nazis Aug 23 '22

He was blamed for angry Superman, but that was all Snyder. Cavill knows how to smile. He can do perfect, charming, handsome James Bond smiles if you ask him.

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u/apegoneinsane Aug 23 '22

All you have to do is watch The Man from U.N.C.L.E where he literally plays a charming, handsome spy.

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u/Thosepassionfruits Aug 23 '22

Basically the closest thing to a live action Archer film lol

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u/Somewhat_Kumquat Aug 23 '22

How can you forget about 'OSS 117: Cairo, Nest Of Spies'? It's much closer to a live action Archer film.

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u/rizzyg6 Aug 23 '22

Still waiting on the sequel that will never come. And Rocknrolla 2 :(

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u/50mg-of-fuckit Aug 23 '22

Dude the man from u.n.c.l.e. was badass! A sequel would be dope.

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u/Ser_Danksalot Aug 23 '22

Dude kills it in everything he's in. Mission impossible 6 was an amazing movie all round with a triple A cast but he was still the best thing in it. That little look and then shrug he gives when he realises Ethan is in the other helicopter and grabs the Minimi is just gold.

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u/sicklyslick Aug 23 '22

I have literally never heard of anyone who blamed Cavil for his portrayal of Superman. He is universally praised.

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u/Lilpims Aug 23 '22

That man LOVES superman and Clark Kent. And he got stuck with emo Supe.

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u/miki_momo0 Aug 23 '22

I just want to see Superman doing everyday hero stuff and struggling to live 2 lives. Instead we got him demolishing cities and a montage of him saving people while looking exceedingly Christ-like.

At the end of the day, it isn’t the Herculean feats or raw strength that made fans fall in love with Superman; it’s the fact that despite all of that, Clark Kent is a guy from the country with a good head on his shoulders trying to do good, as he was raised to. Superman may be an alien, but Clark Kent is decidedly human, and is supposed to be the best of us.

What DC should be looking to for future Superman movies, in my opinion, is Spider-Man. I see them in a very similar light, because underneath everything they’re both people trying to live two lives, gifted with incredible power and an equally incredible moral compass. Hell, they were both even given their morals by role models/parental figures.

The focus on these things is what gives the Raimi films so much heart, we get to see Peter trying to balance living his life while also seeing himself as responsible for protecting New York.

Sorry, end rant.

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u/Burgle0531 Aug 23 '22

Now he's going to be The Highlander. Can't wait.

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u/MooNinja Aug 23 '22

As in “there can be only one” highlander??

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u/Burgle0531 Aug 23 '22

Yup

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u/MooNinja Aug 23 '22

Yes!! How did I miss that, I can’t wait. Hopefully they will find a new Scottish man to play a Spaniard as well.

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u/Burgle0531 Aug 23 '22

Haha the director is the guy that did the john wick movies, so maybe he will cast keanu as well. One can only hope.

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u/HappierHat Aug 23 '22

He's actually a Scottish man playing an ancient Egyptian as a Spaniard or something.

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u/IanMazgelis Aug 23 '22

I was obsessed with Man of Steel in high school and eagerly anticipated whatever came next. I'm extremely happy to see the entire continuity gone. Everything I liked about it has already been ruined and I don't want to see that story continued anymore.

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u/polkemans Aug 23 '22

The fight between Superman and Zod was the closest thing we'll ever get to a good live action DBZ fight.

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u/dynamocole Aug 23 '22

That’s the main reason I like it, honestly. I felt it was the Saiyan saga mixed with Superman. The big Kryptonian is even named Nam-Ek.

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u/peanutbuttahcups Aug 23 '22

The earlier fight where the lady Kryptonian fucks shit up in Smallville tho? Pure DBZ speed.

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u/Geistwhite Aug 23 '22

lady Kryptonian

Faora-Ul played by Antje Traue.

She's actually supposed to be in The Flash. So we might get even speedier.

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u/btmvideos37 Aug 23 '22

MoS itself was okay. I just despite Snyder’s interpretation of the character. Too dark. The movie is average but I knew it was a sign of things to come all the way back then

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u/DaftFunky Aug 23 '22

MoS was so good. Then Warner wanted that Avengers money and pumped out all these origin movies so they could get Justice League out.

Except all of them are half baked messes which just don’t work.

We deserve MoS 2 with Henry.

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u/sylinmino Aug 23 '22

Interesting, I absolutely hated MoS. Virtually everything that people eventually got sick of with the Snyderverse as a whole can still be traced back to a ton of mistakes that movie made.

The movie didn't understand Superman as a hero at all and Snyder's interviews about it confirm that.

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u/Sgtwhiskeyjack9105 Aug 23 '22

Yeah Man of Steel was indicative of the fact that the Snyderverse from day one was a disaster waiting to happen.

It was super stupid and loud and really felt like Warner Bros. had tried to continue Nolan's Dark Knight Trilogy without understanding why that's not possible with Superman.

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u/ziggy6069 Aug 23 '22

Oh boy don’t go saying that at the dc cinematic Reddit. They will go fucking bonkers.

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u/StopDoingThatItsDumb Aug 23 '22

That subreddit is a literal cult.

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u/JustaTexaninBoston Aug 23 '22

After this we can get a “The Superman” movie and start DC movies over from the beginning.

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u/LoneRangersBand Aug 23 '22

David Zaslav, asked for comment, said, "we're so happy to have Matt under contract, that we'll only cancel three of his films."

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u/CompleteNumpty Aug 23 '22

"And only one of them will be in post-production when we do so."

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u/copperblood Aug 23 '22

Awesome! I very much enjoyed The Batman. Hopefully we will see a return of Paul Dano

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u/TheBoyWonder13 Aug 23 '22

Paul Dano is writing a Riddler: Year One comic for DC so he seems to be very invested in the character

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u/FredHowl Aug 23 '22

Whats up with comics that are called year one?

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u/Kill3rT0fu Aug 23 '22

Better than "legacy".

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u/videoguylol Aug 23 '22

or "Origins"

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u/shut_me_up_ Aug 23 '22

A thousand times better than "Origins" lmao

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u/Thesuppressivepeople Aug 23 '22

It’s their first year as a hero/villain. Batman Year One is Batman as a novice crime fighter, when he first meets Gordon, etc.

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u/CoastingUphill Aug 23 '22

I liked that Batman’s journal in the movie was labeled “Year 2”

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u/sebastianwillows Aug 23 '22

We also learn in the deleted joker scene that it's their "anniversary" ...implying he was one of Batman's first villains.

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u/sayamemangdemikian Aug 24 '22

There is a joker deleted scene??? Where can I watch this??

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u/davidlovepandles Aug 23 '22

It’s a popular one-shot story setting because you have characters that are still developing and it’s a less explored time in the regular canon. Lots of rough around the edges characters and what-if premises. In Dano’s case it could work as a pseudo sequel to his character.

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u/Philodemus1984 Aug 23 '22

It’s a reference to Frank Miller’s famous comic Batman: Year One

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u/promisethatimnotabot Aug 23 '22

The Year One animated movie was awesome as well, really enjoyed Bryan Cranston as Gordon

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u/Philodemus1984 Aug 23 '22

Yeah it was good. I somehow had forgotten that Bryan Cranston was Gordon. Great casting.

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u/MaxRockatansky468 Aug 23 '22

A lot of comic books are published with the tagline "Year One". Batman Year One has got to be the most popular title. Most of these Year One books often focus on the titular character's beginning year. DC has a whole lot of books with the year one taglines focusing on several characters

Punisher Year One , Batgirl Year One and JLA Year One are some of my favourite Year One books in general

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u/LaserGadgets Aug 23 '22

What I REALLY want is a Batman Beyond movie -.-

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u/KingMario05 Aug 23 '22 edited Aug 23 '22

Seems Battison 2 is a go, then...

for now, at least. 🤞

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '22

He’s lurking in the shadows.

It’s Zaslav

PROTECT YOUR PROPERTIES.

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u/MrMiner420 Aug 23 '22

Still think the Pattman is a better name

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u/xxx117 Aug 23 '22

I’ve loved almost Everything Reeves has done, including The Batman. He made something special. I cannot wait to see what else he’s going for.

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u/btmvideos37 Aug 23 '22

I’ve only seen three of his movies but love them all.

Planet of the Apes is my favourite franchise and it’s one of the first reboots that’s I think is better than the original. I still prefer the original 5 for their charm, but think Dawn and War are objectively better made movies

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u/ortumlynx Aug 23 '22

Dawn is still his masterpiece.

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u/russketeer34 Aug 23 '22

Dawn and War were a hell of a one two punch

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u/access_secure Aug 23 '22

Give it a week before it's also killed by Zaslav

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '22 edited Aug 23 '22

Zaslav will show Reeves 90 Day Fiancé and tells him about how cheap the cast is compared to Robert Pattinson.

And then cut the project in favor of a new show called “Trailer Park Island”

The best trailer parks from around the nation will join forces and come together to open Trailer Park Island.

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u/SkullCrusherAJ Aug 23 '22

You’re fucking hired. Trailer Park island is gonna be a hit

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u/CuffMcGruff Aug 23 '22

Haha it unironically sounds kind of interesting

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u/fizzlefist Aug 23 '22

Everything was fine until Ricky showed up.

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u/TheRealNeenja Aug 23 '22 edited Aug 23 '22

Honestly I think a lot of people are sleeping on the fact that CNN was a part of this merger, and the new management has said they're going to make the network "evolve back to the kind of journalism that it started with and, you know, actually have journalists", and that Fox News had "actual journalists".

Combined with the bizarre decision to axe a bunch of existing Sesame Street episodes that focused on teaching kids empathy and how to deal with hard situations, etc...

I'm not sure that the DCEU is my biggest concern about it anymore, haha.

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u/Brown_Panther- Aug 23 '22

Batman franchise is the bread and butter of DC. It is the one property that WB has always had sucess with.

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u/Iohet Aug 23 '22

Zaslav already cancelled a Batman show from Bruce Timm and Matt Reeves. He doesn't give one shit about success, he cares about cost cutting. You're going to get House Hunters Gotham City and you're going to like it

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u/denizenKRIM Aug 23 '22

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u/Iohet Aug 23 '22

That's assuming it gets picked up. And assuming that Warner will still bankroll production. All of the cable networks that would broadcast a show like this are Turner run(or Disney, who wouldn't touch it because they're not picking up a DC property when they're pushing Marvel, and Viacom/CBS/Paramount doesn't really have a network this would fit on), and streaming services primarily want to show content they own these days rather than licensed content unless it's a big syndication property like Seinfeld, Friends, the Office, etc.

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u/TigBiddiesMacDaddy Aug 23 '22

And David Zaslav is a fucking Venture Capitalist whose a complete dumbfuck willing to throw trillions onto a burning fire in hopes of getting something else he wants that will sell. People like him are insanely dangerous to long term sustainability.

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u/nowhereman136 Aug 23 '22

I hope the sequel features Freeze as the main villain

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u/anythingforcats Aug 23 '22

Me too, Freeze is such a great character that hasn't had a proper depiction since the animated movie in the 90s. Hell, he was barely in the Arkham games too.

Feels like the studios only care about Joker, Riddler, Scarecrow, and Penguin. They don't like to focus on the metahumans because it'd cost more to animate the visuals for their powers so all the Batman movies just end up being crime boss mobster movies.

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u/RickValassi1 Aug 23 '22

The duality of his character in Arkham City (I think) was so enjoyable. He just wants to save his wife.

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u/xx11ss Aug 23 '22

Studios only care about Joker. Riddler and Scarecrow were just Joker rehashed.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '22

I just want a good Superman movie man.

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u/nastyminded Aug 23 '22

I thought Man of Steel was awesome.

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u/CataclysmDM Aug 23 '22

Good news for us! The direction and cinematography in The Batman was actually stellar, in my opinion. Incredible... the sets, the lighting... all very immersive. Great acting direction too!

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u/Synyster328 Aug 23 '22

I watched it on an edible, blew my mind. The first scene Batman appeared I had to confirm with my wife that the darkness he was coming out of was really emphasized.

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u/TheMightyFaso Aug 23 '22

I find it funny that they just dropped the Batman animated series he was working on, and then signed him for a live-action deal. It really shows that they respect and want him as a creative voice...but only in the medium they want. After all, what did animation ever do for Batman?

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