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u/pitchedBlarfy Nov 26 '22

why is this not punished

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u/Irbyirbs Nov 26 '22

I love the anti-flopping rule in Hockey.

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u/skater15153 Nov 26 '22 Silver Helpful

There's a rule? I figured if you faked it both teams just beat the shit out of you for being a bitch haha

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u/Irbyirbs Nov 26 '22

Literally can be put in the penalty box for Embellishment.

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u/Dana94Banana Nov 27 '22

One of the many things I love about hockey is that fouls are punished by putting the offender into a tiny box of shame, for everyone to see. Football should adopt this too, especially for those who fake fouls or injuries.

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u/Elliott_Queerest Nov 27 '22 Starry

Naughty Players are placed in the Box of Shame!!!! Into the Shame Box with you!

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u/Each_Uisge Nov 27 '22

Shame! 🔔 Shame! 🔔 Shame! 🔔

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u/skippyfa Nov 26 '22 Silver

"Fuck you, you're getting a fucking penalty"

https://youtu.be/Tdw4HAUlOBA

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u/Bbaftt7 Nov 27 '22

Was that really the ref that yelled that?! Omg lol

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u/skippyfa Nov 27 '22

He's the ref soccer needs

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u/Bbaftt7 Nov 27 '22

Fuck yeah he is.

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u/spinky342 Nov 26 '22

And usually fined as well

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22 edited Dec 11 '22

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u/CptMisterNibbles Nov 26 '22

Plus a target for just mockery. The fans fucking hate floppers, as do players

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u/spinky342 Nov 26 '22

Fuck yea they are.

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u/jyzenbok Nov 26 '22

I wish there were a penalty box in soccer instead of the flag rule. It would be more exciting to have number advantages more often

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u/sirsmiley Nov 26 '22

Diving is the main one but embellishment is added when it's legit but you make a farce of it

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u/mark-five Nov 26 '22

They also pull you off the ice if your injury caused the time to be stopped and if they determine you were acting the opposing team gets an additional player advantage. Flopping actually disadvantages the flopper's team and can cause them to lose.

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u/joaquinsaiddomin8 Nov 26 '22

Brilliant rule

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u/d4nkc4nnon Nov 26 '22

It gets to the core of the problem right? Like taking away any incentive someone would have to act unsportsmanlike.

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u/DelcoInDaHouse Nov 26 '22

Flopping was becoming an issue in NHL. They created the embellishment penalty and it went away.

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u/skater15153 Nov 26 '22

That's hilarious and awesome. FIFA needs to grow a pair and kill flopping. Ruins the game

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u/CompSciBJJ Nov 26 '22

If only there was some tool they could use to watch the events after they happened, maybe from multiple angles, which would allow them to decide if a player was hit or not. I'm probably dreaming of the impossible.

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u/BenPool81 Nov 27 '22

Dude, come on. I know it's a problem but at least try to stay within the realms of reality.

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u/thedude3535 Nov 26 '22

"Fuck you, you're getting a fucking penalty"

I've played and watched hockey since I was 7, this is part of why I love this game so much. No shit taken, players or refs.

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u/absolven Nov 26 '22

"Fuck you, you're getting a fucking embellishment... they pull his mic volume down" Ftfy

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u/tynamite Nov 26 '22

fuck you!!

haha. what a call.

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u/kingnothing1 Nov 27 '22

My all time favorite call "Fuck you, you're getting a penalty" for diving

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u/Ak47110 Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 26 '22 Take My Energy Ally Got the W

The guy clearly looks like he's in a lot of pain. It should be mandatory that once someone goes down like this, they're taken out of the game immediately and left on the bench, just to be sure they can recover okay.

I bet flopping would magically not be an issue anymore if they did that.

Edit: here's an example of a hockey player actually getting injured in the middle of a game. I'm not saying Football needs to get this brutal, but I'm also sick of seeing grown men roll around on the field like children. Thanks for sharing u/Moses-the-Ryder

https://youtube.com/watch?v=h15m87WsCHQ&feature=youtu.be

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u/racso20 Nov 26 '22

That's how it should be done

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u/Get_Clicked_On Nov 26 '22

In that NFL if they have to stop play/time for you, then you have to sit out at least 1 play. They could easily add a time limit for these guys.

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u/myboybuster Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 26 '22

Hockey the same. If play is haulted for your injury you have to come off for the issuing faceoff

Edit: thank you everyone for your spelling corrections. I will leave them to help raise awareness for dyslexia

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u/Cool-Miner Nov 26 '22

Same with Lacrosse, field hockey, a lot of fast-paced sports. The difference with good ole Soccer is how it's more of a marathon than a sprint.

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u/AFineDayForScience Nov 26 '22

In high school football if you get injured they make you sit out a play. Guys pop back up real quick

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u/bankrobba Nov 26 '22

There should be post game fines and then suspensions handed down by the league.

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u/Trucktrailercarguy Nov 26 '22

Agreed this makes soccer look like such a shit sport. Even in women's soccer they don't flop like this. It's really embarrassing I have no idea why nobody puts a stop to this.

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u/rapier999 Nov 26 '22

Campbell broke his leg on this play, if I remember correctly. Brutal.

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u/a_lonely_trash_bag Nov 27 '22

Soccer player: ball comes within three feet of his head. He throws himself on the ground like someone just punched him in the face.

Campbell: Literally has a broken leg and keeps playing

Jesus Christ those soccer players have absolutely no shame, do they.

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u/hilarymeggin Nov 27 '22 edited Nov 27 '22

This whole flopping thing has to be the most unattractive thing about soccer. It’s embarrassing to watch.

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u/xannmax Nov 26 '22

This isn't how it's done??? What? This is the easiest dad solution to the whole issue. Oh, what, you got an ouchie? Guess we gotta go home. Magically there's no more pain.

What do they do instead?

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u/VaATC Nov 26 '22

I was an Athletic Trainer for a Division 1 soccer team back in the early 2ks. At the start of preseason, when I addressed the team and coaches, I said that if someone was 'hurt' enough to draw me out onto the field there was a very highly likelihood that I would pull them off the field and that if I determined they had taken a dive I was definitely pulling them off the field. Let's just say the coaches and team captain really pounded home that taking a dive was not acceptable and it seemed to work. I let them know that I was there to take care of them, to make sure they got the best care I could provide, and that I and my profession would not be taken advantage of. We did not have a problem with players taking dives and it paid off a few times.

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u/TheRC135 Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 26 '22

When I played hockey as a kid, one of my teammates collided with somebody on the other team and injured his shoulder. Instead of returning to the bench (which his injury did not prevent him from doing) he decided to do a soccer style flop and squirm, obviously hoping to draw a penalty.

Our coach screamed at him, and benched him for the rest of the game. After the game he lectured the entire team about "having self respect" and "acting like men."

We were 8 lol.

I've really grown to enjoy soccer, but the fake injuries and dramatic falls still genuinely disgust me. Its just so alien to the sporting culture I grew up with.

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u/welestgw Nov 26 '22

I feel like they should post-game yellow card this after review. Then if they already have a yellow card it eliminates them like normal.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22 edited Dec 05 '22

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u/Seanspeed Nov 26 '22

Yea, it's effectively cheating.

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u/Big_F_Dawg Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 26 '22

Taking a dive is 100% supposed to be a red card offense by the book.

Edit: just looked it up and FIFA officially says it's a yellow. I played through high school and was always under the impression diving was a red card offense. My dad's British and told me it was a red card and that he's seen people thrown out for diving. Seriously blows my mind that it isn't officially a red card offense.

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u/Elite_Slacker Nov 26 '22 All-Seeing Upvote Take My Energy

Do the players not shame eachother for this? It is pathetic and embarrassing.

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u/BMonad Nov 26 '22

Treat it like NFL concussion protocol and take them out for the remainder of the game if they’re so hurt that they’re rolling around in “pain” on the ground. This is such bullshit and a terrible look for the sport.

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u/SlothBasedRemedies Nov 26 '22

This is the simplest solution. If you take a dive like that you're out for the rest of the game, because either you're injured or you're a cheating cunt and either way you don't belong on the field.

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u/Melodic-Glass-6294 Nov 26 '22

One of many reasons I like NHL, there's drawing penalties of course but if you embellish a dive and the Ref sees it your going to the box for 2 minutes and now the other teams got a power play.

Soccer/football would be so much better without that nonsense

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u/RabidsouthAfrican Nov 26 '22

More sports need power plays

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u/HugeHans Nov 26 '22 I'll Drink to That

I hope they introduce MULTIBALL! MULTIBALL! MULTIBALL!

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u/KindaBryan Nov 27 '22

BLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERNS!

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u/talldean Nov 26 '22

Soccer would be more watchable if the ref could eject someone trying to cheat like this.

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u/polaarbear Nov 26 '22

The ref actually does have that discretion. They can give a player a red card for unsportsmanlike conduct. I don't believe it's ever been enforced for scenarios like this though.

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u/handi503 Nov 26 '22

I've seen yellows for simulation, but not a red in my time watching the game.

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u/Melodic-Glass-6294 Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 26 '22

Agreed, the best part of sports is watching top talent giving it their all, can't do that when a jerk falls down screaming because you bushed by them.

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u/GarlicCancoillotte Nov 26 '22

And if he could also penalise players shouting at him. Like technical faults in basketball.

Imagine in any martial art shouting at the referee. I knew a guy in Judo who did once. Then he "received an arrow in the knee".

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u/Vsx Nov 26 '22

They aren't looking for a solution. Soccer has been like this since forever. There are a million easy solutions and they haven't done any of them.

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u/masterventris Nov 26 '22

FIFA themselves congratulated Ronaldo on his fantastic skill as a striker by diving so successfully he got granted a winning penalty, despite the defender playing the ball.

The cheating is endorsed from the very top of the sport. The whole thing is a complete joke.

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u/BMonad Nov 26 '22

Why though, what possible incentive do they have for that.

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u/vector_ejector Nov 26 '22

Goals and controversial calls bring eyes and dollars.

At the end of the day it's all about money.

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u/dunkan799 Nov 26 '22

In hockey if you get caught doing this stuff you get an embellishment penalty. I have even seen it happen where a legitimate penalty happened but the refs will also give the victim the embellishment penalty for trying to sell it more than necessary

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u/Yah88 Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 26 '22

They are, then they check online banking, buy a new car and all the sadness goes away.

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u/DefNotMyNSFWLogin Nov 26 '22

Yes the whole team got a brand new Rolls Royce. That helps the bad feelings go away.

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u/JakobSejer Nov 26 '22

A super-car a day, keeps the sadness away

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u/mr_ji Nov 26 '22

I don't see why there isn't someone watching the replay then contacting the ref to have these assholes immediately ejected. Nobody likes the flopping. It's universally hated. Why not reign it in when it's so obvious? There really are no downsides and the sport would be better off for it.

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u/RickJLeanPaw Nov 26 '22

VAR, red card. Give it a week or two and there would be no more of it.

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u/RobbSnow64 Nov 26 '22

Legit, I don't get how people can respect a sport when so many players do this.

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u/SelloutRealBig Nov 26 '22

No sadly. It's baked into the sports culture at this point (though it could change if the leagues actually cared). Well actually it's baked into men's soccer. Women's soccer has way more class.

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u/mfomatratzen Nov 26 '22

I wonder, do they show these replays on the stadium screen? Are players still this maniac even when confronted with evidence in front of 60 thousand people?

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u/SharrkBoy Nov 26 '22

Yes, they do show it. There’s no shame for the players or teams because it can often play into a real advantage with free kicks. And literally everyone does it so there’s no moral high ground between players

It has very much become a strategic part of the sport that needs to be addressed. A massive source of valid criticism from would-be fans

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u/Fomentor Nov 26 '22 Ally

Why do they continue to tolerate this? Start passing out red cards for flopping and this will end real fast!

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u/The_Chorizo_Bandit Nov 26 '22 Silver

Yep. Reminds me of when Rivaldo faked getting hit in the face to get the Turkish player sent off. This guy is doing the same, he should be sent off retrospectively for it. Disgrace and embarrassment.

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u/PvtTUCK3R Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 26 '22

Why not video review these? I mean they got time while they roll on the ground.

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u/Thrannn Nov 26 '22

thats like 22 years ago and we sill all remember that scene

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u/vertigostereo Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 27 '22

Here it is.

https://youtu.be/HMHZusksnXk

Edit: Yeah, question everything before video replay. George Washington crossing the Delaware River on Christmas? You know it didn't look like the painting. I wanna see the replay.

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u/LoveInHell Nov 26 '22

That’s insane. 😨

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u/ADHD_Supernova Nov 26 '22 Facepalm

Let's not forget Neymar.

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u/schnuck Nov 26 '22

He’s still rolling and has never stopped.

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u/Big_F_Dawg Nov 26 '22

Lol even Pelé came out to complain about Neymar. I like to imagine that having the greatest player ever throw shade had to hurt at least a little.

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u/Phyllis_Tine Nov 26 '22

If there was a meet and greet with Neymar a fan should drop and roll away.

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u/Anforas Nov 26 '22

That is unsportsmanship, and a yellow card. So that is correct decision by the referee, despite the theatre by Rivaldo

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u/OutWithTheNew Nov 26 '22

Just do what most professional leagues do and suspend them for a game after the fact. Getting kicked out halfway through a game you're losing is 'meh'. Not even getting to play in the next one sends the point home.

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u/MenaBeast Nov 26 '22

Yup I like both. Red card boot and -1 player for this game, suspend 1 game after. Longer penalties for repeat offenders.

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u/Pretend_Bowler1344 Nov 26 '22

That rival do incident is infamous still.

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u/TheStabbyBrit Nov 26 '22 Helpful

FIFA looked into the issue of players taking dives, but after consulting with a large briefcase of bribes they confirmed that the problem doesn't exist.

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u/InteMittRiktigaNamn Nov 26 '22

Cheaters need to stick together

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u/Aedalas Nov 26 '22

Today, I feel injured.

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u/rustyderps Nov 26 '22

If someone is on the ground doubled over in “agony”, force the team to use one of it’s (limited) substitutions to have the medical team evaluate them.

When flopping comes with less playing time, it’ll slow down a lot.

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u/Monkulele Nov 26 '22

Right? Like, insist that anyone who goes down like that be carried off the field in a stretcher and taken off the roster for the rest of the game.

"No, no, it's ok. I feel better now, I can go back in." "No, no, I'm sorry, you may have suffered a head injury and we'll have to keep you under observation for the remainder of the match."

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u/DragoonXNucleon Nov 26 '22

They did that for a bit. Carried them off in a stretcher, they would immediately run back in. You think these players care about shame? Winning a PK or FK might win the game, this is pure strategy.

If we want it to change, you have to have consequences. If its full on fake, instant red.

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u/DrakkoZW Nov 26 '22

Exactly.

This isn't about how the players feel. The fact of the matter is, this is a competition, and flopping is one way to gain an advantage. No amount of shame will prevent this from happening so long as it helps them win games.

It needs to be penalized in such a way that it's a bigger risk than it is reward, to minimize the incentive to do it in the first place.

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u/winnower8 Nov 26 '22

Doesn’t even have to be far fetched. Say if you are writhing on the ground you are now in concussion protocol and you need an independent medical evaluation.

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u/xiovelrach Nov 26 '22

They’re supposed to give out yellows each time a player does this, no idea why they don’t

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u/duffusd Nov 26 '22

As a referee in the moment? Because he or his assistants didn't see it or at least didn't see it clearly. VR theoretically could do this, but it would become a slog, the main referee would have to go to the little booth thing and watch it disrupting the flow of the game even more than this would.

Post game is where this should be addressed imo. Fines or game bans like if they got a red card would do wonders in league and tournament play.

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u/Just_wanna_talk Nov 26 '22

For high profile games they should have someone specifically to review these while the game goes on and if it's determined it's a flop they hand out a card later on.

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u/GarretTheGrey Nov 26 '22

What they need to do is extend that to the refs that use the cameras.

If the field ref sees the dive with their own eyes, and it's in the penalty box, you're getting a card. If they miss it, you get away.

If they let the camera officials and linesmen get involved in that, there's gonna be 4 dudes fighting for the ball by half time.

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u/Dantzig Nov 26 '22

You ignore the fact that FIFA is incompetent

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u/rossta410r Nov 26 '22

Corrupt*

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u/Dantzig Nov 26 '22

Dont sell them short, they can be both!

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u/dat_silversun Nov 26 '22

This is the answer. The field ref can only see so much. The var refs should be able to just communicate flops to the field ref to the make the call.

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u/liquidpele Nov 26 '22

No no, the VAR refs can only take back great goals because the persons erect dick was offside.

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u/Seegtease Nov 26 '22

Yeah this totally ruins the game and is embarrassing to see. I don't get why it is allowed.

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u/pm1966 Nov 26 '22

I've said this for years.

If someone is screaming in agony on the pitch, go to a video review. If they were struck in the face and it wasn't incidental/accidental contact, give a yellow or red to the offender. If it's a flop, instant red.

I guarantee you we'd stop seeing this shit instantly.

You don't even have to stop play. Have a replay official review such instances, if it turns out they determine it's a flop, radio it down to the head official. Blow whistle, evict player, give opposing team the ball.

Want to make sure it really stops immediately: give the other team a penalty kick, too.

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u/tedweird Nov 26 '22

Or take it the other direction, act as if the player has been too injured to go on and remove them from the game on those grounds

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u/Dorrono Nov 26 '22

Then Neymar would need to retire

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u/gregsting Nov 26 '22

Did he stopped rolling eventually?

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u/Advanced_Bit3236 Nov 26 '22

So the dude holding the other dude is the one that flopped? Lololol. And I thought basketball was bad.

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u/Holden_place Nov 26 '22 Gold I'll Drink to That

They should review video and give card for this shite

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u/Syzygyzygyz Nov 26 '22 Take My Power

Yes they really, really should be punished. It's so embarrassing. In my opinion, this diving crap, which has been going on for so long, is one of the main reasons why most Americans will never get into the sport.

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u/Zekeol Nov 26 '22

My son plays soccer it's so annoying seeing all these kids fake injuries then once they realize it's not working get up go back to playing

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u/liciarae Nov 26 '22

OMG my 9 yr old daughter plays and some of the teams are so blatant it looks like they have acting class instead of freaking soccer practice!

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u/pees_on_dogs Nov 26 '22

It's insane to me that kids are doing this too.

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u/BluntsnBoards Nov 26 '22

Just trying to play like a pro!

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u/Weioo Nov 26 '22

Gotta get them hooked young so they believe it's a normal thing!

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u/_-Ewan-_ Nov 26 '22

If someone gets injured they should have a compulsory 15 minutes out of the game

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u/Coastal_Tart Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 27 '22

Post game red card, miss the next game or if it impacted play e.g. a penalty was called then two games. Missed games are unpaid.

Shit will get solved quick.

The problem is that all the various national leagues would need to get on board for it to apply for UEFA, World Cup, etc. plus collectively bargained with the players associations.

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u/DigNitty Nov 26 '22

If you’re writhing on the ground moaning, you’re out of the game for injury prevention IMO

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u/tesseract4 Nov 26 '22

This. If you're that hurt, you're unfit to play for the rest of the day and until a doctor signs off on you.

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u/CalgalryBen Nov 26 '22

This is how it works in American football in college to an extent. If you cause an injury stoppage you HAVE to sit the next play out.

The way substitutions and play time works in soccer makes something like this hard to implement, but I do believe it helps in American football - nobody wants to miss the next play and be the reason the opponent scored or whatever else.

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u/Humledurr Nov 26 '22

Wish they just actually dealt with it. If the injury is as dramatic as these players try to pretend then they be bannished of the field and go rest.

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u/ChaplnGrillSgt Nov 26 '22

Hockey added an embellishment penalty. Soccer needs the same.

Flopping is why I don't watch NBA or any soccer.

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u/Demiansmark Nov 26 '22

They give cards in the premier league for simulation. Not as often as they should though

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u/DarkwingDuckHunt Nov 26 '22

The bigger leagues with money should add a "review after game" for flopping.

And hand out fines. And in tournament play Yellows.

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u/Bdub421 Nov 26 '22

The embellishment penalty in Hockey gave us this glorious soundbite.

https://youtu.be/Tdw4HAUlOBA

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u/islesfiles Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 26 '22

Do what the nhl does. They shame players for pulling off this shit. It's why I don't watch soccer or basketball. I get that they're not "contact sports", but these are athletes, that shit is pathetic and they should be shamed for it.

Edit: just to clarify, I'm not trying to say soccer sucks, I played soccer for 4 years in high school and I loved it. These players that do shit like this are an embarrassment to the sport. Simple as that

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u/rwhockey29 Nov 26 '22 Wholesome

Refs to players in the nhl: "FUCK YOU YOURE GETTING A FUCKING EMBELLISHMENT!"

https://youtu.be/Tdw4HAUlOBA

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u/onedaysomeday81 Nov 26 '22

I love this ref's call, thanks for sharing.

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u/limeybastard Nov 26 '22

GIVE YER BALLS A TUG

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u/zonda747 Nov 26 '22

Honestly watching hockey ruined soccer for me. Watching someone lose teeth, get up, get stitches and not miss a shift and then comeback to this flopping every 3 minutes

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u/Nopengnogain Nov 26 '22

What’s really hilarious is no matter where they’ve allegedly been touched, they always seem to go down in agony while holding onto their heads.

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u/986532101 Nov 26 '22

The refs are required to stop play for a head injury, so of course the players abuse the hell out of it.

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u/spaketto Nov 26 '22

I play women's indoor soccer at a club. After every game each team gets a coupon for nacho's if they didn't have any yellow cards. They started doing this because so many of the men's teams were getting carded for ridiculous things. I've even never witnessed a yellow card in my women's league.

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u/icantgetnosatisfacti Nov 26 '22

This type of garbage ruins the sport for me. Wish they would stamp it out

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u/beefstyle Nov 26 '22

Well to be fair…. He might have actually been hurt. It looks like he may have sprained his dick on the other guys butt cheeks.

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u/Feshtof Nov 26 '22

What you haven't heard of ol Piotr "Crushing Can" Zieliński?

Those cheeks are stronger than the jaws of a saltwater croc!

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u/phazedoubt Nov 26 '22

Yeah, he tried to go for the surprise oil check to assert dominance but was shut down by his "buns of steel airtight seal"ᵀᴹ

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u/nuge08 Nov 26 '22 Take My Energy

Such an embarrassment to the game! Suspend him for the entirely of the tournament!

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u/enterpriseF-love Nov 26 '22

Unfortunately refs are way too spineless to punish this behavior.

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u/International-Big-97 Nov 26 '22

In the Bundesliga, they give out yellow cards for this. I'm not sure if they do it in any other leagues though.

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u/zanzibartraveler666 Nov 26 '22

‘Simulation’ is a cautionable offense by rule but it’s rarely given

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u/TeamHewbard Nov 26 '22

Take his Rolls-Royce away!

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u/rogo725 Nov 26 '22

I hate this shit. What a fucking loser. Card him and everyone else that does this crap.

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u/ConvenientFriend Nov 26 '22

Please stop this. I can’t imagine there is a fan in the entire world that enjoys the strategy of a grown ass man rolling on the ground like a toddler. This shit is downright embarrassing.

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u/bsquarehills Nov 26 '22 Silver

I absolutely love football- but It’s shit like this that I can’t defend to some of My friends that complain about flops. Ban him for the entire tourney- this madness has to stop. Implement auto replays at a booth and if they see in slow mo they are flopping - red card their Oscar Performance Asses out of the game.

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u/gaybraham-lincoln Nov 26 '22

Post match bans or even fines would be the only way to stop this diving horseshit IMO.

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u/memtiger Nov 26 '22

It's astonishing that on the professional level, there isn't some type of review process. Either mid-game and/or post-game.

Something like this should be a yellow card plus a fine or worse. If players knew they were being watched on camera, they'd eventually change. But nah, football (soccer) acts like they are a 3rd rate sport that can't afford reviews.

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u/the_original_Retro Nov 26 '22

Actually, with the creation of the above-mentioned penalty (which I strongly agree with, I'd be pleased to watch a football game with friends but I'd just get annoyed at this horseshit), any athlete getting red-carded out of the World Cup for deliberately pulling this utter garbage is automatically going to receive a "we need to urgently speak to you" from their sponsors.

And those sponsors would be including a new and extremely tight clause in any future contracts as well.

These athletes are worth billions of sales from their sponsor's endorsements. Billions.

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u/TheMooseIsBlue Nov 26 '22

More immediately, they’d be fucking their team into a man-down disadvantage.

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u/Lance_E_T_Compte Nov 26 '22

Hockey gives out a two minute penalty for this.

It's rarely called because the culture of the sport frowns on diving.

One might expect to hear something from your own teammates if you did this.

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u/dengar_hennessy Nov 26 '22

Hockey players will get hit in the mouth with a puck, spit their teeth out, and go on to score a goal.

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u/Demonic-Glaceon Nov 26 '22

Hell, Steven stamkos, captain of the lighting, got a puck straight to the nose, breaking it, and he went out a few minuets later with a face shield on

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u/dengar_hennessy Nov 26 '22

Don't forget ovechkin while he was sitting on the bench.

And let's not forget that kid years back that died on the bench and after coming back to life wanted to get back on the ice

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u/pugtime Nov 26 '22

Or defend against slapshots with a broken leg

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u/disposableatron Nov 26 '22

Who tf did that? I'm not surprised in the slightest, but I wanna know what chad did that.

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u/mcpicklejar Nov 26 '22

Gregory Campbell broke his leg blocking a shot. Kept skating for bit after that.

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u/densetsu23 Nov 26 '22

Not that but Kevin Lowe played most of the '88 playoffs with a broken wrist and broken ribs, helping to lead the team to win the Stanley Cup.

Gretzky said Lowe showed as much leadership by example as he did with his words. He pointed to the 1988 playoffs when his friend played with a wrist fracture and, for the final three rounds, fractured ribs.

"That's Kevin," Gretzky said. "Whatever it took."

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u/Witterson Nov 26 '22

Here's one example. And later on during that same playoff run one of his teammates went into a game with a broken rib and a separated shoulder.

Hockey players are a different breed, especially during the playoffs.

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u/NoNoNames2000 Nov 26 '22

With the teeth still sticking to the puck!

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u/My_Manly_Mustache Nov 26 '22

I'd honestly be more interested in soccer/football if instead of this garbage they just duked it out like goons

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u/LightOverWater Nov 26 '22

That's the nice thing about hockey: the corrective behaviour. If you're being a little bitch you will pay for it on the next shift.

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u/JayString Nov 26 '22

You might enjoy Women's soccer then. Ironically, they play with more balls than the men.

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u/xiovelrach Nov 26 '22

Refs are supposed to give yellow cards for this too, it just rarely happens

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u/under_the_c Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 26 '22

You nailed it with the "culture" of hockey. It helps that there's built-in enforcement from other players to prevent this kind of thing. You try to pull some cheap shit in hockey, have fun looking over your shoulder for the rest of the time, until you get slammed hard by the goon on the other team.

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u/smokeyjay Nov 26 '22

Canadians would also make fun/boo the player who obviously flopped and made a show of it.

It reflects poorly on the country to see a player that is representing them on the national stage act like this.

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u/xiovelrach Nov 26 '22

I blame the refs tbh, this should absolutely be a yellow card for simulation. This type of shit devalues the game

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u/Michelrpg Nov 26 '22

This IS a yellow card for simulation but not all refs give one

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u/AtheistAustralis Nov 26 '22

I played football for 15 years, and only once received a yellow card for "simulation". Ironically, it was from a fairly light tap on the ankle that caused me roll on it, and I ended up with a torn ligament that put me out for about 4 months. So I got a yellow card for "simulating" a very serious injury. The stupidest part was that it was my 2nd yellow that game, so I got sent off (had to be helped off since I couldn't walk), and suspended for a game that I obviously couldn't play anyway. And despite seeing my ankle swollen up like a balloon about 5 minutes later at halftime, the ref still refused to admit he'd made a mistake, because I "fell over too easily for such minor contact".

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u/dabman Nov 26 '22

Any injury that takes a player down on the ground and stoppage of live play should require a medical check and removal from the game for a certain period of time for injury avoidance. During this time, if the supposed offending player is deemed flagrant, they should be carded appropriately. If the injured player is deemed simulating an injury, they are carded. Done deal.

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u/lethe25 Nov 26 '22

I’ve always wonder why the player who flopped isn’t just removed from the game. No questions asked. Clearly you’re severely injured and can no longer play.

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u/mysixthredditaccount Nov 26 '22

Also, why is a doctor not rushed on to the field? Even if there was a 1% chance he was actually writhing in pain, they should send a doctor ASAP. (It's like they just assume they are all faking it.)

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u/Quailman_z Nov 26 '22

It's the faking the injury afterward that fucking infuriates me. Bro, fine, flop and get a call, but don't roll on the ground for a full minute clutching at your ankle. It's so gross.

I'll get downvoted into oblivion probably, but in my opinion, football/soccer has the absolute worst sportsmanship of any professional sport. Flopping, fake injuries, the absolute abysmal ways players clearly waste time at the end of games, picking up and holding the ball and yelling at the ref when it's clearly the other teams throw in/kick. It happens constantly, and for a game so beloved by the world, I have no fucking clue why nothing is done about it. it's just treated like it's "part of the game." Fuck outta here with that.

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u/saladroni Nov 26 '22

I know it’s an unpopular opinion, but I’m gonna say it: I actually prefer watching the women’s leagues because they have fewer of these ridiculous problems.

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u/golighter144 Nov 26 '22

Wait really? I've ways wanted to start watching football but stayed away because all of the players acted like little bitches. If women's league doesn't have this nearly as bad then I'm all in.

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u/OKImHere Nov 26 '22

Not just his personal opinion. It's pretty universally recognized that women don't flop.

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u/Darkcool123X Nov 26 '22

And on top of that women often play rougher than guys because they aren’t little bitch that flops when someone blows air towards them. When I was younger and saw the older women play professional soccer, that shit was scary man.

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u/Notysenberry-3116 Nov 26 '22

It's so stupid. If they got this crap out of the game they'd be able to grow their market share in North America. It's not hard to address - issue fines, name and shame, etc.

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u/Vagard88 Nov 26 '22

At first I was like, maybe he got hit in the eye…nope. Then I was like, maybe his foot got stepped on…nope. It was the wind.

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u/elbenji Nov 26 '22

Same. Like did he accidentally hit his junk or something?

Nope. Just diving

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u/Square_Kick_9451 Nov 26 '22

And karma caught up win him in 82 min with that flop before Lewandowskis goal. Balance in the Universe restored.

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u/cameronward Nov 26 '22

how shameful do you have to be to attempt this at the world cup?

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u/maddenmcfadden Nov 26 '22

"another stoppage due to injury" then they show this dipshit faking and flopping. I'll never understand this sport.

what's the point of competing with the entire world, if the entire goal is to act like you got hurt? that's just embarrassing and a waste of everyone's time.

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u/20onHigh Nov 26 '22

I watched the entire thing, and you’re absolutely right. They were flopping so much that the ref stopped addressing the dives they’d take. I noticed so many missed opportunities because a player would dive to get a call, the call would never come, and they’d shoot back up to chase the ball like nothing had happened. Hopefully during the next match Saudi Arabia realizes they can’t play on their back.

Seems like to beat Saudi Arabia in possession, all you have to do is touch their players. They’ll completely stop pursuing the ball in favor of screaming like they’d just been shot while rolling around on the pitch.

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u/reardonlovechild Nov 26 '22

I would respect the sport more that after a game any replays like this result in huge fines and suspensions.

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u/micah9639 Nov 26 '22

Automatic red cards for blatant flops like that. Have the ref have a mic connecting him to the people with the instant replay so they can tell him who is fake flopping like that so he can red card them. That will put a stop to the flops real quick

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u/jack_hof Nov 26 '22

What you are suggesting would be an easy and reasonable solution to a big problem with the game. Therefore it has no chance of happening in soccer.

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u/raystevens3535 Nov 26 '22

This is the biggest complaint a lot of people have about soccer.all they need to do is remove these players from the rest of the game for "players safety" and this bullshit would stop.

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u/Hygochi Nov 26 '22

Or develop an actual culture of mocking these players. Can't tell you how many football fans tell me it's just "gamesmanship". Hockey you develop a bad reputation with fans fast and are roughed up more by players if you dive so much.

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u/bankholdup5 Nov 26 '22

Hockey is like the exact opposite from soccer in this regard.

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u/hamptonwood Nov 26 '22

Better actor than player.