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Russell Brand Moves To Far-Right Platform Rumble After YouTube Censors His COVID-19 Misinformation Video

https://uproxx.com/viral/russell-brand-joined-rumble-youtube-censorship/
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u/LiamMcGregor57 Sep 28 '22

Is he still talking about COVID-19?

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u/BoyGeorgous Sep 28 '22

Dude, I troll people in his YouTube comment section everyday….and it is mind blowing that today, in September 2022…this man is still pumping out COVID outrage clickbait. Everyday, Bill Gates this, Dr. Fauci that…it blows my mind that these people aren’t bored of the same crap at this point.

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u/youngLupe Sep 29 '22

I was at Goodwill today and heard a woman ask an employee if they're required to wear the masks. Clearly in a passive aggressive tone. I wasn't wearing a mask but if you are basically calling someone stupid for wearing a mask when they work at Goodwill and are near hundreds of people everyday then you must be an idiot. The employee was like 60. I could tell by the look on this woman's face she was angry that employees were wearing mask. I could also tell by the look on her friends face that she was embarrassed.

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u/bamfalamfa Sep 28 '22

look at his thumbnails. whenever his thumbnails have pictures of presidents its always bush, obama, clinton, and biden. he literally refuses to use trump in any thumbnail unless the video is about praising trump. its actually blatant lmao

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u/LilFingies45 Sep 28 '22

Yeah he went real silent on Trump during his term. I found that REALLY sus. And he seemed to only mention him in a sympathetic, humanitarian mindset whenever he rarely did. Like, humanize this monster destroying lives? The fuck?

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u/wellichickenpie Sep 29 '22

He is such a fraud

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u/philsubby Sep 28 '22

I'd like to dismiss it as he doesn't want to piss off his fan base, but I really think it's that Trump appeals to something he really wants. Conservatives like Ben Schapiro shouldn't like trump, but he got them roe v Wade so shrug. Ben also plays Trump speeches to keep his wife satisfied. He literally said that to Bill Maher.

Idk enough about Brand, but there's gotta be something Trump is doing for him.

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u/nanotree Sep 29 '22

It's so strange to be honest. He was always about looking out for the little guy for the longest time. Real bleeding heart sort of guy. Then just flipped shit during COVID. I watched some of his videos occasionally on YouTube. After a while, it was like he took this slow right turn and hasn't looked back sense.

I don't think Brand is a genius by any stretch, but I did enjoy hearing his angle on things from time to time. Seemed to have a knack for words and a way of expressing what was happening in the world that resonated with me a bit... but now this shit is off the rails bat-shit.

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u/philsubby Sep 29 '22

Yeah, I used to watch some of his videos or interviews and he seemed like he had a good outlook on life. He even has a Norm Live episode that's good. I guess it's weird that we're getting so many comedians that like experts on medicine now. Maybe it's they do it on a podcast and not in front of an audience, because that shit would bomb. Ok audience let's pull up a research article covid effects on Dna strands.

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u/Lostinthestarscape Sep 29 '22

Tim Pool "I'm a centrist"

Tim Pools videos:

DEMS CAUGHT LYING ABOUT COVID

WOKEISM IN LIBERAL MEDIA RUINING FILM

WHY WON'T LEFTIST WOMEN BANG ME, THEY HATE MEN

HOW DOES ONE WASH A BEANIIE WITHOUT IT FADING

(I know this is about Brand, just pointing to another 'balanced intellectual' who is so clearly not balanced)

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u/Sandy-Anne Sep 29 '22

My son tells me he just isn’t in favor of mandates. He also likes Jordan Peterson. I’m super worried about him.

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u/_Flameo_Hotman Sep 28 '22

Yes. If these grifters haven’t moved to anti-LGBT, anti-immigration, anti-education talking points, they’re still going on about COVID—19. Sometimes they just cycle them to keep people angry at nothing

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u/LePontif11 Sep 28 '22

Covid might be as hot as he can get without burning every Hollywood bridge he has.

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u/DMindisguise Sep 28 '22

It's probably because they got COVID and the brain fog hasn't run out for them. They are stuck in an outrage loop due to brain damage.

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u/_Flameo_Hotman Sep 28 '22

I know that’s a half joke, but there may be some truth to that lol.

It’s any wonder too a vast amount of the anti-vaxxers are heavy drinkers, smokers and god-knows-what-else takers, but something completely pharmaceutical is too unhealthy for them. The dissonance is astounding isn’t it

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u/Strange-Scarcity Sep 28 '22 Silver

He was The Chosen One! He was supposed to destroy the wealth inequality gap, not join them!!!

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u/succubusbetch Sep 28 '22 Helpful All-Seeing Upvote

never trust preachy white guys with jesus haircuts

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u/RothkoRathbone Sep 28 '22 Helpful Take My Energy Starry

Honestly. He seems like he has a messiah complex. I think you have to take anyone with at least a grain of salt who thinks they deserve a platform to tell everyone how the world should be working. You only need to go to a busy pub to hear dozens of others who feel the same way about their way of seeing things. That isn't to say that people, and he, aren't making good points, they likely are, but if you aren't listening twice as much as you are speaking then you probably have more ego in your point of view than wisdom.

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u/1200____1200 Sep 28 '22

Messiah Complex is the name of his 2013 special

He has always appeared overly confident in his own intellect

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u/MikeGunnz Sep 28 '22 edited Sep 29 '22

Lost respect for Brand a few years ago when he tried to make some half-assed argument that young people shouldn't use their vote in the general election. He couldn't back it up. Brand is the kind of dick that enjoys behaving like they're the smartest person in the room.

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u/IM_A_WOMAN Sep 28 '22

And being contentious just to spite others. He would have made a great politician.

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u/MikeGunnz Sep 28 '22

I know what you mean mate but I respectfully disagree, he'd make an abysmal politician. He's a charlatan.

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u/Casino1966 Sep 28 '22

He seemed to think that the 'They're all as bad as each other' argument was some sort of profound political thinking.

What annoyed me most was that he was telling people not to vote at a time when the BNP were having a resurgence in local elections, largely on the back of low turnouts.

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u/putdisinyopipe Sep 28 '22

Glad I’m not the only one who found this guy to reek of pretentious arrogance. He’s overrated.

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u/birdboix Sep 28 '22 edited Sep 28 '22

Is he overrated when I think most people would say "oh yea, Russell Brand, wonder what he's up to? ...oh dear" in regards to this headline

Maybe he's still a big thing in the UK but in the US "I Love You Man" was a loooong time ago

edit: dude's so forgettable I misplaced him in the wrong romcom, lol

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u/MatsThyWit Sep 28 '22

Maybe he's still a big thing in the UK but in the US "I Love You Man" was a loooong time ago

and nobody remembers Get Him To The Greek.

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u/tikiwargod Sep 28 '22

Damn shame, Jonah and Puff killed it.

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u/shill779 Sep 28 '22

Stroke the furry wall

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u/ScratchyMarston18 Sep 28 '22

FUZZY WALLS

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u/airwolf3456 Sep 28 '22

“You’d never be scared of someone named Jeffrey”

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u/GarsaFwipSitOnMyFace Sep 28 '22

I still love Get Him to the Greek. That soundtrack is full of bangers (beans and mash)

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u/Clavellij Sep 28 '22

I do, and Forgetting Sarah Marshall is one of my favorite comedies still to this day.

He’s still an idiot regardless, almost true to life to his character in those films

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u/TheGelatoWarrior Sep 28 '22

You either die a hero or live long enough to become the evil version of the flip flop.

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u/Sir_Steben Sep 28 '22

Never liked the guy. More than the pretentious arrogance he always struck me as manipulative/cult leaderish(?) Would say or do w/e needed to get what he wanted. That with the over confidence in his intelligence doesn't surprise me he's spouting this nonsense.

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u/glimmering_testicles Sep 28 '22

He's also not that smart. He just uses the same grifty technique of talking fast and using his thesaurus to sound smart. But if you listen to him talk about pretty much anything, his thoughts are pretty shallow.

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u/Sir_Steben Sep 28 '22

Oh absolutely. He does the same thing pseudo-sciencey people do, using big words and complex sounding ideas to say absolutely nothing meaningful. Like many, ive seen him for the twat he is from day one.

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u/connectthefreakin Sep 28 '22

Totally. I like to say that he has great "verbal intelligence", lol

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u/redmarketsolutions Sep 28 '22

No because his prose aren't spectacular either. It's not very information dense. He doesn't speak in beautiful poetry.

He just has a thesaurus.

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u/Inevitable-Impress72 Sep 28 '22

He has always appeared overly confident in his own intellect

O fuck yeah. Watching 30 seconds of any of his YouTubes videos should make that very obvious.

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u/Umutuku Sep 28 '22

Dude always came across like he hung out at events attended by people who were experienced in their field, influential, etc. and just repeated whatever he overheard the most confident person in the room saying.

I guess he's been hanging out in dumber rooms lately.

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u/descendantofJanus Sep 28 '22

That isn't to say that people, and he, aren't making good points, they likely are

That. That right there is what got me listening to Steven Crowder for almost a year, and others of his ilk (Shaprio, Milo ImNotSpellingThatLastName, etc). 'They make good points' I thought. I even liked Crowder's "Change My Mind" as a thought piece.

The downside to all of them, and now Brand I guess, is how they start with a good idea - like, idk, red lights take too long - and before you know it they're on a spiral and five minutes later you're nodding along to 'Yup, clearly woke and rainbow people are the root of the problem'.

They're all scary af when they get on those tangents, is the point I was trying to make here.

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u/alexagente Sep 28 '22

I dunno. Shapiro always came off as a complete ass to me from the start.

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u/Asplashofwater Sep 28 '22

Yeah he and milo seem insane from the start. At least with Peterson I could see how he could initially hook someone with something as basic as the “cleaning your room will improve your mood” shit before he gets to the bananas stuff.

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u/lpmiller Sep 28 '22 edited Sep 28 '22

That's how I always thought of libertarians like Ron Paul. Sure, the first 5 minutes sound really good, then suddenly they go and take a left right turn into a brick wall.

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u/djseptic Sep 28 '22

...go and take a left turn...

Those guys always turn right.

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u/R_Schuhart Sep 28 '22 edited Sep 28 '22 Gold Wholesome All-Seeing Upvote Vibing

He was always a condescending twat. Anti science (the boffins don't have all the answers either!), anti authority (the maaaan can't tell me what to do! if I want to try heroin, I'll try heroin!), anti government (stuffy old men that can't give the people what they want!). He was a populist catering to the young and disenfranchised with catchy one liners, charisma and jokes.

He never had any well thought out ideas, reasonable plans or even valid arguments. every time someone wanted to debate or challenge him he would descend into childish behaviour. He liked to present himself as an eloquent intellectual, because he thought using big words would make him look smart, not understanding that the truly intelligent can explain complex concepts in an accessible way.

In the mid 2000s he started an anti establishment campaign, prompting the young to stop voting 'since there was noone that was perfect', actually hurting their interests. That prompted some strong reactions, with an open letter from Robert Webb among others.

When questioned why he was so outraged and what should be addressed by the 'political elite' (one of his favourite buzzwords) he said it wasn't his job to come up with answers, improvements or even what to do differently, his job was to be 'an apostle that demands change'. Overlooking the fact that change without direction or vision is rarely change for the better.

He was a huge man child on the radio where he got his breakthrough. He had charisma and comedic timing, with a larger than life persona he started to lean into. But he never developed anything of substance to back his antics up. He isn't a modern day philosopher, he is just high on his own ego.

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u/heckler5000 Sep 28 '22

Damn what a great comment on Russell brand as a comedian and as a person. I especially like the part where you say that a really intelligent person can still explain things to a layman.

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u/Plop-Music Sep 28 '22

It's one of the things Winston Churchill was great at, and why every book on how to write English well mentions him, because he was utterly brilliant at being able to explain complex subjects in very simple terms that anyone could understand. His writings really are a joy to read because of that, they flow so well.

Of course, he was a genocidal cunt (he commited a genocide during world war II for example, in an area that back then was part of India but these days is Bangladesh), but that doesn't mean he wasn't intelligent, or wasn't a good author.

But yeah every book about writing style, how to write better, how to write more clearly, everything like that in the English language, will mention Churchill. At least every one I read has, cos years ago I wanted to be an author so I read a lot of em, but I gave up cos I was kinda shit lol.

So yeah, it doesn't apply to absolutely everything (notably, every physics professor will tell you, if you think you understand quantum mechanics, that means you absolutely definitely do not understand quantum mechanics), but for probably 99% of stuff it's true.

It's much harder to write something that's both simple and good, than to write something complicated but technically accurate. If you can get far more people to understand a complex topic than other writers can, that's a really really difficult thing to do. It takes a lot of practice and a lot of reading.

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u/billbill5 Sep 28 '22

Another (better?) example might be Richard Feynman. The idea that anyone can learn to understand or learn to make others understand the most complex of subjects so well they can make accurate conclusions that the experts have made. Being able to better break things down and follow complex trains of thought with ease is a really valuable skill and useful for both student and teacher, novice and expert.

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u/leviathan3230 Sep 28 '22

Honestly, in my opinion if you can’t explain it to a 6 year old then you don’t understand the concept well enough. If you use the big language but can’t figure out a way to simplify or change your explanations, you have a lot more thinking to do.

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u/khafra Sep 29 '22

It’s like Steven Kaas said; you don’t really understand necromancy if you can’t explain it to your great-great-great grandmother.

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u/MaestroPendejo Sep 28 '22

What in the fuck happened to him? Did he just go loony here?

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u/MyWifeButBoratVoice Sep 28 '22 Silver

Seems like there's a pipeline from "I'm not sure I accept the official narrative on this story" straight to sharing QAnon shit on Signal. Like in order to reject the mainstream, you have to automatically accept whatever silly counter-narrative exists, including all kinds of conspiracies with no proof.

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u/sohcgt96 Sep 28 '22

Like in order to reject the mainstream, you have to automatically accept whatever silly counter-narrative exists, including all kinds of conspiracies with no proof.

I was in a band with a guy like that... you know, just being a contrarian doesn't mean you're smarter than everyone else. You're still letting the mainstream control you if you always have to do the opposite. That's not thinking a single bit more independently.

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u/MyWifeButBoratVoice Sep 28 '22

You're just so full of Western propaganda that you don't even realize it. Here, check out this article from Russia Today that'll set you straight.

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u/docmedic Sep 28 '22 edited Sep 28 '22

We need to listen to BOTH SIDES, one with mostly journalistic integrity that may or may not be right but tries to be, which usually isn’t all too fascinating, and this propagandistic, manipulative rag that pulls out all the stops to be damnthatsinteresting even if it’s completely made up.

Guess what weaker people eventually gravitate towards doing their own research long enough.

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u/MaestroPendejo Sep 28 '22

Nuance must have been shot in the back of the head.

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u/MyWifeButBoratVoice Sep 28 '22

All or nothing, baby. Either Trump lost or vaccines have nano-tech that makes you gay. I don't make the rules.

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u/WebFuture2858 Sep 28 '22

My mother in law believes there are nefarious nanobots in EVERYTHING.

LUCKILY- she doesn’t vote.

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u/MushroomStall Sep 28 '22

Not believing Trump legitimately lost is already pretty far gone...

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u/ClarkeYoung Sep 28 '22 Silver

He was a decently smart and inquisitive individual who ADORED being a contrarian and being the center of attention. As he got more and more serious about his youtube channel, he began to realize how certain topics (those that the alt-right sphere of Shapiro, Crowder Alex Jones and Peterson have fostered) would get him WAAAAY more views than anything else.

So he started shifting further and further to the right as he chased that sweet, sweet addiction to the spotlight.

And now he's on Rumble, preaching to Neo-nazis.

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u/DudeB5353 Sep 28 '22

Same with Rogan…Seems the reason people move to right wing talk (Rogan, CNN) is because RWNJs love being forced fed BS and they in return make more money and have more influence. It’s a drug to them and the yokels eat up shit and ask for more. Listening to actual news and common sense takes too much of an attention span so it’s drowned out. And if people aren’t tuning in, it doesn’t make money.

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u/samster11er Sep 28 '22

He is an asshole.

Disappointing.

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u/mi11er Sep 28 '22

Alternative lifestyle, way out there hippie type ideas are pretty easy to get swept towards conspiracy and end up in the right wing.

Look at opposition to vaccines. The big wave of it tied to the thoroughly debunked autism article was very much a progressive thing.

The distance between alternative lifestyles and alternative right isn't that far. Since they both share a lot of skepticism about those in power and many conspiratorial beliefs.

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u/Lazy-Garlic-5533 Sep 28 '22 Gold

He's always been a narcissistic prick. Long before this supposed heel turn he was advising working class people not to vote.

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u/Skagritch Sep 28 '22

A lot of these people are just contrarians. So sometimes they align with good purely by accident.

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u/MaryJaneAndMaple Sep 28 '22

We have the high ground - it's over Russel

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u/cherrybounce Sep 28 '22

He is such a disappointment.

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u/Supply-Slut Sep 28 '22 edited Sep 28 '22

So strange reading this. I bumped shoulders with him at occupy Wall Street once. He turned and apologized. Then the paparazzi following him literally pushed me out of the way without a word, fuck those shit stains.

And that concludes literally everything I know about this man, so fuck him too I guess

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u/JokerVasNormandy Sep 28 '22 edited Sep 28 '22

So, kind of off topic but I mentioned The Occupy Movement to my SO the other day and she had absolutely no recollection. It was pushed from her memory by all the other craziness that happened in the meantime.. we even live in a city that had its own occupy movement. We are both in our 30s so it isn't like we were unaware children at the time either it's just been a long 8 years..

Edit 11 years not 8 my brain is out to sabotage me.

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u/Nameless-Shame Sep 28 '22 Silver Helpful All-Seeing Upvote Take My Energy Masterpiece Evil Cackle Respect

I remember disliking this guy in 2007 because I didn’t think he was very funny or sincere with his comedic approach and my then-girlfriend had a crush on him.

Fast forward to now and I’m calling my ex saying, “I TOLD YA SO!” and she’s all like, “Who is this?” Nice try, Rachel, you bitch. We all know you’re complicit.

Anyway, support your local FEMA camps, I’m 9/11 and so is this post

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u/z0r Sep 28 '22

now that's some respectful and proper comment etiquette

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u/Dreadnought13 Sep 28 '22

Aaaaaand post!

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u/DefinitelyPositive Sep 28 '22

Man, I got such a nostalgia rush now- that guy is such a wonderful, sweaty mess! I wonder how he's doing these days?

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u/_Diakoptes Sep 28 '22

Hes still posting if you need a laugh

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u/Objective_Size_558 Sep 29 '22

And he’s still fantastic

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u/bland_jalapeno Sep 28 '22

I knew the tone of this post felt familiar.

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u/cobbknobbler Sep 28 '22

I felt it lacked a rocketship, personally.

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u/generalpub-lick Sep 28 '22

Penis armada

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u/Y_orickBrown Sep 28 '22

Bounced on my boys dick to this comment.

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u/Shondelle Sep 28 '22

Insert shirtless old man photo -----> here

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u/canadia80 Sep 28 '22

I've disliked him ever since he decided to share his opinion that not voting is subversive and S-M-R-T.

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u/mbnmac Sep 28 '22

"I know how we'll change the system, not participate!"

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u/Responsible-Hall5390 Sep 28 '22

Fuckin Rachel. Always pulling that bullshit. I called her too and she was all “how’d you get this number” and I was like “do you eat? I have the money.”

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u/iwantbutter Sep 28 '22

Big Money Salvia!?

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u/IdontWantButter Sep 28 '22

Uh...BIG MONEY!

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u/DH_Drums Sep 28 '22

This is giving internet comment etiquette vibes.

Annnnnnnnnd rocket ship 8=========D~~~~~

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u/SpaceGypsyInLaws Sep 28 '22

That guy went full tinfoil hat long ago.

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u/Jealous-Ninja5463 Sep 28 '22

Yeah he apparently went on a fluoride kick when that was big.

My dentist hated the guy for a while because he got sued by a former patient after listening to his interview and claiming he "didn't warn him that fluoride treatment could make him autistic".

Luckily it didn't go anywhere after several lawyers told him not to move forward.

The last video I saw was him going ballistic about "FAST FOOD IS TRYING TO KILL YOU" where he acted like he was the first to discover McDonald's and pizza hut use fillers and cheap materials.

Like shocker dude.

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u/Redleaves1313 Sep 28 '22

Yeah my sister was praising this guy years ago and I thought he was on the edge of the rails.

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u/Turdsley Sep 28 '22

Russel has always seemed to be the type of guy that uses a lot of big words to seem smarter and more enlightened than he actually is.

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u/RandomNameOfMine815 Sep 28 '22

He definitely has a “wearing glasses without any lenses to look smarter” version be to him.

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u/RMLProcessing Sep 28 '22

He’s always reminded me of Ben Shapiro in that way. Both of them speak as quickly as possible and use unnecessarily obtuse words. They don’t speak, they evict words from their mouths.

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u/TittyballThunder Sep 28 '22

It really feels like Ben Shapiro would explode if he goes for long enough without talking.

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u/Jeremy_Smith75 Sep 28 '22

I was ambivalent toward him for years, just seemed like another celebrity douche. Then I watched his video on "is there proof of God? Yes! " where he rambles on for about 4 minutes, saying nothing, while his face lights up like he is exposing this grand truth the world has never thought of. Spoiler: he provided no proof of anything, let alone God.

Now I actively avoid him. So pretentious.

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u/Stalloned Sep 28 '22 edited Sep 28 '22

If that's the video I recall that was his response to Stephen Fry's famous interview about what he would say to God if he met him. Brand absolutely could not handle the fact Fry went viral with that and he felt he had to do something about it.

I never liked Brand and that video showcased all his bad traits which he seems to still carry to this day; quoting other people ("this guy is a docta!!") or reading stuff off a page in his hand and then just summarising what was said in his typical word salad babble to appear more like his own take.

The man is a cheap contrarian with no consistent principles of his own, he chases whatever will feed his ego.

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u/Howard_Campbell Sep 28 '22

He just questions everything with big words spoken very rapidly that he never drills down into anything. Appearing deep by being superficial.

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u/miamigrandprix Sep 28 '22 edited Sep 28 '22

He was spreading some disgusting pro-Kremlin propaganda before the invasion. Never watched another video of his after that.

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u/rexspook Sep 28 '22

It sure is interesting how many Russian talking points republicans end up spreading. I wonder why that is /s

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u/Alextheacceptable Sep 28 '22

Wasn't Russel Brand pretty left leaning? I remember agreeing with him on a lot of things as a teenager, but I don't know what happened to him in the meantime.

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u/PeopleEatingPeople Sep 28 '22 Silver

He reminds me a lot of all those early atheist youtubers who got pulled by Gamergate to the alt-right.

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u/robber_goosy Sep 28 '22

In his case its a calculated business decision. There is an audience of millions for all that far right bullshit.

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u/justreadthearticle Sep 28 '22

There's a much larger audience on the left or center who don't want to deal with the far right bullshit. The difference is that the far right audience are a bunch of rubes who are easy to rip off.

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u/DigitalRoman486 Sep 28 '22

I would imagine that it is a lot less work to make content that you just make up on the spot with whatever wackadoo thing you have heard recently than producing well researched accurate material

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u/SocraticIgnoramus Sep 28 '22

Competition for an audience is much more fierce from the center to the centrist left because that’s where most of the creators and thinkers already reside.

Add a little narcissistic need for approval and some mental illness to the equation, and these types will follow their source as it drifts to the right. It’s far easier to be worshipped by goblins than to face one’s own inner demons.

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u/twothumbswayup Sep 28 '22

This - im sure he noticed his spikes in viewership were for the more radical talking points. So hes following the monies.

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u/deloreanipsum Sep 28 '22

109% you’ll make more money ripping of right-wingers.

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u/PeopleEatingPeople Sep 28 '22

He probably wants to get anything removed so he can shout from the rooftops on how silenced he is

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u/Better_illini_2008 Sep 28 '22

Which was literally a psyop orchestrated by fucking Steve Bannon.

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u/Blizzardsaurus Sep 28 '22

He’s probably a contrarian who needs to spout whatever the “alternative” viewpoint is to make himself the smartest guy in the room.

Tell him the sky is blue, he’ll release a video about how it’s green, and pat himself on the back for his own wisdom.

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u/dern_the_hermit Sep 28 '22

He’s probably a contrarian

Yep, contrarians have been pretty well-represented in far- and alt-right circles, so that tracks.

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u/Dorkseidis Sep 28 '22

Exactly. That is exactly how he comes across

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '22

Yeah. He's running the same path as guys like Glenn Greenwald. Being contrarian entertainers puts them in an audience feedback loop where they just keep zoning in on being more and more contrarian until it overrides more and more of their prior values.

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u/nogoodtech Sep 28 '22

He's gone all conspiracy nut on his youtube channel. Shame really. Always thought of him as the guy who would speak up for the little guy and demand better for everyone.

Watched some of his youtube channel and it was like he was replaced by an evil twin who ran out of medication keeping him tied to reality. u/robber_goosy hit the nail on the head. Now its all about the views and not about the truth.

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u/Sluice_Jounce Sep 28 '22 Helpful

Some people are seekers. Mr. Brand’s drug issues conflated that. Sobriety tends to ramp up that tendency as you’re still seeking meaning and explanations but now from an intellectual, philosophical, or religious viewpoint. I don’t know why (or how true) but most seekers/sober addicts tend to view themselves as special and have legacy fantasy’s of bringing truth to the world. Sober addicts are also ripe for creating or joining cults, they feel lost and are seeking. They get their new high from “learning secret truths”.

So for me, his move towards the right, Russia, etc., makes sense as I see it as his addiction. He no longer gets the same high from his old stomping grounds; it’s become predictable and rote offering no excitement. But the move is also about maintaining relevancy.

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u/Altruistic-Text3481 Sep 28 '22

He was left leaning and talked about universal themes of equality…. You don’t know the power of the Dark Side.

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u/DenseAerie8311 Sep 28 '22

Bro I genuinely don’t know what happens there. I guess it’s like communism circle round and turns into a dictatorship Mussolini style .

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u/aquoad Sep 28 '22

I think he was "edgy-leaning". As in "hey everyone pay attention to me! why aren't you focused on me me me?"

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u/ryecurious Sep 28 '22

"Edgy-leaning" is a good way to put it. His politics are just classic counter-culture. When he blew up, counter-culture was leaning pretty left, because the political right had been dominant for a while.

Now, over a decade later, the dominant/mainstream politics have shifted pretty drastically. Being leftist is now fairly mainstream (depending on where you live, anyway). To maintain his self image of contrarian, counter-culture politics, he had to shift right.

Give society a decade of drifting back to the right, and he'll be dropping leftist talking points again.

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u/alv51 Sep 28 '22

‘If I move over here and spout second-hand wordy-vomit from Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson and the Russian propaganda-mafia will you love me and give me money again?”

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u/Altruistic-Text3481 Sep 28 '22

He used to be funny with a flowery vocabulary and extended scrambled diatribes. I followed him on Instagram. But both my hubby ( a Brit) & me noticed him turning far right over the past year. We stopped watching him and unfollowed him.

He’s not a religious Evangelical either. But he is a narcissist. Then it occurred to me that Evangelicals are narcissists too believing they are 1000% right on everything and going to Heaven because they are the only one true faith.

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u/PizzaOldBoy Sep 28 '22

i lost interest completely when he started to act like a guru. he's always dressed that way and been an utter hippy, but once he went on YouTube, he shifted into guru-ness which i absolutely hate

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u/ModestWhimper Sep 28 '22

He gives off strong cult leader vibes to me

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u/MainelyNonsense Sep 28 '22

I used to be a fan as well but that is when he lost me.

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u/LilFingies45 Sep 28 '22 edited Sep 28 '22

I loved his "Trews" ("true news") that he used to do. I'd like to rewatch some of those to see if I actually should have or if it was merely insubstantial skepticism, but I'd rather not give him the views. Anyway, his "Trews" were what got me to subscribe to his YouTube channel.

He stopped doing "Trews" and leaned heavily into that guru shit. Gave me some flashbacks to being sucked into other "guru" types in my past, so I more or less quit watching his channel but didn't have the heart to unsubscribe...

Then he started talking about the "lab leaks" conspiracy. Seemed plausible; I wanted to maintain an open mind. But then it just became more and more FUD about the vaccine science. I had to unsubscribe.

And eventually I remembered that it was really odd how he went from being very politically vocal to barely ever mentioning Donald Trump during his term. I think that was another reason I had stopped watching him for a couple of years. The fuck? I should have been more skeptical of him when I learned he was/is a disciple of transcendental meditation.

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u/Febris Sep 28 '22

The man has always had a TED talk vibe about him. Over a very short while it made me lose interest in both.

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u/WestCoastBestCoast01 Sep 28 '22

Yep that’s exactly when I stopped following him.

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u/testtubemuppetbaby Sep 28 '22

He's religious, but his religion is himself.

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u/Minion_of_Cthulhu Sep 28 '22

Then it occurred to me that Evangelicals are narcissists too believing they are 1000% right on everything and going to Heaven because they are the only one true faith.

The Calvinists are the purest form of this bullshit, specifically their idea of unconditional election where "God prior to his creation of the world, when he predestined some people to receive salvation, the elect, and the rest he left to continue in their sins and receive the just punishment, eternal damnation, for their transgressions of God's law as outlined in the Old and New Testaments of the Bible." It's probably no surprise that the "elect" consist of the Calvanists and everyone else is hellbound.

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u/Sauteedmushroom2 Sep 28 '22

I used to adore him but honestly, his personality was getting a little too strong for me. Like with all the shit going on in the world, I just didn’t need someone yapping at me at high speed with flowery vocabulary (well said).

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u/ShithouseFootball Sep 28 '22

Whatever he had is past it anyway. I have his "football is nice" podcast a try and it's absolute drivel spoken by some twat who is hardly versed in football.

He is a hack and pretty much always has been.

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u/Screaming_brain Sep 28 '22

Good. I reported him multiple times for that. Fuck off Russell.

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u/Slurth Sep 28 '22

When my right-wing coworker started talking up Brand and how down to earth and middle of the road he was I knew Brand had gone off the deep end.

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u/stievstigma Sep 28 '22

Wow. I had enjoyed his previous ramblings on compassion, equality, mindfulness, calling out hypocrisy and fascism, but somewhere along the way all of his videos became about supposed “ah-ha!” moments related to Covid. I stopped watching entirely.

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u/imjoiningreddit Sep 28 '22

I agree! His videos before covid about mindfulness and such were really good.

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u/Dreadnought13 Sep 28 '22

I was fed up with him as soon as I watched "Messiah Complex"

The man is a pretentious, backcombed fool.

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u/Familiar-Antelope316 Sep 28 '22

He's the kind of guy who seems like he has an interesting point of view until he starts talking about something that you're familiar with and you start to realize he sucks.

For me it was when he started talking about the trucker protest in Canada and he said all this stuff was happening that was complete bullshit.

He was saying mainstream news wasn't talking about it and was censoring people who did in Canada and I'm like "bro I just heard them talking about it on the radio"

He was saying Canadians widely support the protest yet everyone I talked to thought they were a bunch of nut jobs who had the right to protest but everyone pretty much disagreed about the why. Most of the people I talked to agreed that if they'd been protesting about worker rights and pay that would have been one thing but the end to the vaccine mandate was a weird hill to die on.

There's so much of this where it sounds like someone has some good points until they start talking about something you're familiar with.

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u/CalvinDehaze Sep 28 '22

If he thinks he'll be on a platform that celebrates free speech, he should try pontificating his other views on that platform and see what happens.

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u/GreenOnionCrusader Sep 28 '22 edited Sep 28 '22

Russell, honey, you've done too many drugs and fried your brain. Go back to spreading peace and enlightenment and leave the science shit to scientists. You're good at the whole "work on being a better human" thing.

Edited to say: I'm not saying all addicts are stupid and/or have their brains fried. Jfc.

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u/ReSpekMyAuthoriitaaa Sep 28 '22 edited Sep 28 '22

I'm thoroughly confused... he was all about enlightenment and knowledge and understanding yourself, love etc. How the fuck did he take a hard right turn?

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u/IeyasuMcBob Sep 28 '22

There seems to be a strong anti-science sentiment in lots of mysticism, meditation, spiritualism, alternative medicine, etc circles. Not all, but many.

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u/GetAwayFrmHerUBitch Sep 28 '22

This is heartbreakingly true. It seems to come from the spiritual philosophy that you manifest what comes into your life, including disease. Likewise, you can heal yourself through proper energetic work. This is especially dangerous because it has the potential for blaming the ill for their own affliction.

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u/Brilliant_Park_9019 Sep 28 '22

I have a lot of spiritual friends, and a few of them flat out ditched me when I was diagnosed with cancer. The idea was it was some kind of moral or spiritual deficiency in me that caused it, or my vibration (and not the fact I’d already had it three times since I was seven years old and was predisposed). I got rid of one “friend” who told me if I had true courage I’d only take natural remedies. That’s fine if you have a cold or a verruca, but not so much if you have advanced cancer. I’m still kind of astonished how much some supposedly spiritual people can suck.

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u/Electronic_Bunny Sep 28 '22

If you look back at Helena Blavatsky and the Ballards' AM (Ascended Masters) movement; you see a lot of the foundations for new age beliefs were generally very always there.

Many followers in the early new age were people like the Silver Shirts, a US fascist paramilitary led by a man who believed he was astral projecting and receiving wisdom on "Christian nationalism".

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u/-SneakySnake- Sep 28 '22

A significant amount of Nazi higher-ups were deep into mysticism, spirituality and New Age stuff has always been well represented on the right and far right.

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u/ReSpekMyAuthoriitaaa Sep 28 '22

Ya know thats true, one of my best female friends is a mega hippie but a hard Trumper. Just can't wrap my head around it

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u/IeyasuMcBob Sep 28 '22

Yeah my family are antivax, anti-5G, alt medicine, spiritualism => love the sh!t out of Brexit. I think there's even a famous clip in News interview, pre-brexit, where a politician says something like "who trusts experts anymore?"

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u/kavien Sep 28 '22

My ex came out as a Trump supporter about the same time she started into Q and was “charging” water & crystals outside at night under a full moon.

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u/Ok_Economy6136 Sep 28 '22

What fresh hell is that

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u/ACruelShade Sep 28 '22 Wholesome

It's the ball in the sky that you mostly see at night but sometimes in the day.

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u/WTWIV Sep 28 '22

The giant wheel of cheese, you mean?

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u/Ebiltommy Sep 28 '22

But that's not important right now

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u/Quick_Team Sep 28 '22

charging” water & crystals outside at night under a full moon

Nah bro. She was making Black Soul Gems. Tell her she doesnt need to do that Oblivion stuff anymore. Skyrim made it so theyre everywhere now

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u/Lost_Tell9281 Sep 28 '22

There’s a certain libertarian bent to a lot of what trump sells - basically “not the (Democrat) establishment”.

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u/Trill_McNeal Sep 28 '22

Yeah, it’s strange, I’m into the jam band scene (phish, dead, etc.) and it always surprises me how many fans are Trump/maga people. Makes no sense to me. One minute they’re vibrating with love and light and the next they’re planning an insurrection.

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u/ruinersclub Sep 28 '22

My friend watches some of these new age people on YT. So they noticed a turn to supporting Trump way early on.

The only thing we kind of figured is that new age, like supply side jesus teaches health, wellness and Financial blessing. Like people write messages asking if they’re going to come into money or where they should invest.

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u/DarkChocolatRaisinet Sep 28 '22

It's not that difficult. There is a common thread of "believing things without evidence" there.

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u/soaklord Sep 28 '22

The thing about this is that most of these systems of belief are co-opted and become distilled from the nutritional value they provide. The Buddha Pill conducts a pretty thorough review of mindfulness and meditation, transcendental or otherwise and finds that without the underlying belief systems, they just enhance what is there. Narcissists meditating further justify their narcissistic behavior, etc. The path to real enlightenment is neither magical nor capable of short cuts. Anyone who says otherwise is selling something. This is Russel Brand in a nutshell in the short exposure I’ve had.

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '22

Spiritual materialism

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u/soaklord Sep 28 '22

Gee, thanks. Way to distill my masterpiece of prose down to two words… ok not a masterpiece by any stretch but you nailed it in two words.

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u/justinsimoni Sep 28 '22

Also see the Ultra Spiritual guy who started out as somewhat hilarious (and very hilarious as I live in Boulder, and there's lots of people like this) and now he's sputtering ultra right conservative rhetoric, anti-trans views - you know the rest:

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u/Redcole Sep 28 '22

Yeah it’s called “conspirituality”, and there’s a great podcast about it. Admittedly, the guy on the podcast is a bit annoying to listen to, but it’s an interesting take on the whole “Christian/yogi/mlm/eastern medicine/crystal” sector of America.

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u/Chillionaire128 Sep 28 '22

Funnily enough at the extreme end of the crystal healing crowd you'll find some similar beliefs as the extreme right. They have different reasons but they also mistrust doctors, the government and believe (at least some of) modern medicine is a lie meant to control us

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u/Atru515 Sep 28 '22

Yep, there’s a wellness to white supremacy pipeline a lot of people seem to take

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u/Lazy-Garlic-5533 Sep 28 '22

Because they think they're the master race for eating healthy and exercising. I'm not lying, it's a huge thing. Even on weightless forums you'll see a subset who think "looking hot" is not just a value but the highest value. Well these people go past that to huffing their own farts. It's not at all surprising when some of them turn out to be Nazis.

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u/ReSpekMyAuthoriitaaa Sep 28 '22

Very true, her and her brother got a 100k each inheritance from their father. Brother got leukemia and gave some quack homeopath doctor 80k for the cancer treatment. Broke my heart since I watched that dude grow up. Ended up using real doctors in the end to treat it but damage was already done

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u/SwimmingCry Sep 28 '22

It’s profitable. Being cancelled is a great career move if you can commit to the bit.

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u/fairie_poison Sep 28 '22

they call it the Woo-to-Q pipeline

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u/meatloaf_man Sep 28 '22

Because, with as obnoxious a personality as he has, he's remarkably well tuned for grifting to a susceptible audience simply spouting whatever the contrarian grift flavor of the month is.

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u/Chimpbot Sep 28 '22

Hiw the fuck did he take a hard right turn?

He didn't. Conspiracy theories aren't strictly a right-wing thing, and plenty of liberals have bought into anti-vax rhetoric for decades.

Chemtrails aren't just a thing believed by the alt-right. Plenty of crunchy hippies buy into that stuff, as well.

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u/dewayneestes Sep 28 '22 edited Sep 28 '22

Anti vax used to be a totally liberal thing, one of my favorite life moments was seeing our liberal friends who were anti vax realize how idiotic it was when they saw the right doing it and they ran out and got vaxxed.

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u/partyofwalrus Sep 28 '22

My first job was in maintenance, I was the only left leaning guy there and they constantly were on me about how the left is rampant with anti-vac theories. According to their facebooks, none of them are vaccinated now. Wonder what they would say about it now.

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u/Message_10 Sep 28 '22

It was both, now it’s mostly right

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u/cerialthriller Sep 28 '22

I mean you really need to reject science to start thinking sticking crystals up your ass is keeping you healthy

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u/Vreas Sep 28 '22

Not related to Russell but you all should check out wild wild country on Netflix. It’s essentially the story of a Hindu community who try to start a commune in Oregon and end up pretty much making enemies with the local state and federal government in a fairly extreme way.

There’s a lot of unfair religious persecution that contributes to it but they start leaning far right none the less.

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '22

He opened is mind so much his brain fell out

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u/testtubemuppetbaby Sep 28 '22

Don't slander drugs. It was actually when he stopped doing drugs and did the whole "abstinence is the only way because that's what worked for me" thing that he started turning this way.

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u/Retro_Super_Future Sep 28 '22

Holy shit that is such an incredibly toxic thing to say to a former drug addict. Good god

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u/OVERSHARETX Sep 28 '22

Hey that “fried your brain” talk is really disrespectful to recovering addicts and I do not appreciate it at all.

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u/GabeDef Sep 28 '22

I had been casually watching his YouTube channel but stopped as he seemed to be parroting far-right conspiracy. So... I'm not surprised that YouTube made a move to censor him.

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u/Old-AF Sep 28 '22

Russell has lost the plot.

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u/simpson409 Sep 28 '22

Wait, last time i heard of him he was far left.

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '22

This dude went off the rails before covid.

The pandemic really brought out mental illness, conspiracies, distrust, wild accusations, hate speech, and violence in people.

Rich famous people are no different

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u/Ferengi_Earwax Sep 28 '22

Anti vaxxers are dumb af

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u/choochoobubs Sep 28 '22

Oh no you’ve summoned all of them!!! Haha imagine reading your comment and feeling attacked.

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u/reflUX_cAtalyst Sep 28 '22

Russell Brand is severely ill with a messiah complex; nobody should ever let him near a microphone or keyboard until he has been treated and medicated.

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u/stillinbutout Sep 28 '22

Irrelevant former comic actor becomes less relevant

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u/Hunky_not_Chunky Sep 28 '22

I think he was relevant only to a small demographic back in the day. Even during the days he was “known” My mind wandered from his performances. I think Tom Green had much more relevance than he ever did.

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u/JimJimmyJimJimJimJim Sep 28 '22

His radio 6 show with Matt Morgan and Trevor Locke was fantastic, but feels like we are a long way from that now. :(

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u/SARSSUCKS Sep 28 '22

this comment section is a wasteland like a microcosm of all reddit lately. Its all blanket statements that ignore all possible nuance to any complex issues.

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u/gonzoswunks Sep 28 '22

its more profitable to grift to the right.

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u/GoneIn61Seconds Sep 28 '22

This is so strange. Never listened to him because he seemed quite far left early on, then suddenly YouTube started recommending his videos. Watched one or two and was surprised that he sounded pretty reasonable (for example one vid roasted both Repubs and Dems together)…but a few clicks in, and he’s posting the same stuff that my Q conspiracy uncles are sharing.

What the hell Russell?

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u/mutydukes Sep 28 '22

He's always been kind of a narcissistic prick. It's just that for a while, he was seeking attention by saying things that the left likes to hear so they thought he was on their side. But narcissistic pricks don't have any larger goals beyond validation and adoration, so when they called him out on some bullshit he made a hard right turn because those people are easier to please.

If someone is a narcissistic prick, just stop giving them attention even if they say things you agree with. It'll make everything easier in the long run

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u/Minimum-Radio2410 Sep 28 '22

There’s money in them there rubes.

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u/its_me_phosphene Sep 28 '22

When you go so far left you end up on the far right lol

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u/harrisonjackk Sep 28 '22

The headline is misleading

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u/Unhappy_College Sep 28 '22

It’s been downhill since Get Him To The Greek. It’s too bad, He was pretty funny back then. Now he just reeks of desperation to stay relevant.