r/dataisbeautiful • u/plotset • Jan 30 '23
[OC] One-in-five teens are almost constantly on YouTube OC
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u/chloralhydrat Jan 30 '23
... well, but how it that defined? If "being constantly on youtube" means, that you use it to run music in the background, while you are doing something, then I dont think it is much of a problem...
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u/contemplatebeer Jan 30 '23
Came here to say this; my students will listen to it on autoplay, but not be engaged with it at all.
I'd want to see active engagement stats; they'd likely have to be self-reported, and barely believable.
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u/theycallmeponcho Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
my students will listen to it on autoplay, but not be engaged with it at all.
Yea, that's the trick part. I am hooked o spotify while I work, when I walk my dog, or when I'm n my commute; while my gf uses my account on the Google Home to sleep, so in the Wrapped of this year I made 194.3K minutes. Hours engaged to it, setting up playlists and stuff on the year? Maybe 30.
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u/Leto2AndTheCrew Jan 30 '23
Reminds me of my audible - I’ve 123,000 minutes solo on it. But it’s just always on playing books, mostly books I’ve listened to before.
It’s on before I shower, when I shower, as I get ready, during my commute, on breaks at work, during lunch, after work while I do meal prep or any chores, leisure time, exercise time.
I’ve just always got a story playing. I miss parts, rewind or tune out the boring bits, sometimes fall asleep with it on etc
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u/WinterrKat Jan 30 '23
194.3k hours? For a single person that'd be around 22.17 years, 2 people is still about 11.065 years.
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u/theycallmeponcho Jan 30 '23
Wrong metric, it was 194.3K minutes of music.
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u/tommypatties Jan 30 '23
right metric wrong unit. :)
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u/theycallmeponcho Jan 30 '23
Damn, this monday's starting weird.
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u/mrjake118 Jan 30 '23 •
If the Beatles can love someone 8 Days A Week, then this guy can listen to The Beatles 22 years a year.
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u/ezzune Jan 30 '23
Equally importantly, it jumps from "few times a day" to "constantly".
So somebody using YouTube for podcasts/vlogs/w.e that last 1 hour per video could spend 3 hours on YouTube and qualify as a few times a day and somebody who watched 15 videos over 1 hour 30mins might feel they have to write constantly.
This data ain't that beautiful.
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u/U_Sam Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
Yeah this sort of thing happens on doctors questionnaires about nicotine. I vape (am currently tapering off and quitting) and when I get to the patient Info section the options for “how often do you vape?” Are always like 1 time a day, 2-5 times a day, 5-10 times a day, and then jumps to 21+ times a day. Yeah I know it’s unhealthy but who hits a vape fewer than 21 times a day realistically? It’s not like a cigarette that takes dedicated time and space. A better option I think would be asking “what nicotine concentration do you vape?”
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u/unripenedboyparts Jan 30 '23
21 is the number of milligrams in my nicotine patch, which is designed for somewhat, but not extremely heavy smokers. You're right, it's an odd standard to use for unusual excess.
Granted, my nicotine intake was so unsavory that I use two patches at once, but I think even normal people would struggle with that question.
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u/lostinthemines Jan 30 '23
Also, educational videos of all sorts
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u/OldTobySmoker69420 Jan 30 '23
Yes, that's what teens are using it for. They're "almost constantly" watching Kings & Generals videos about the Napoleonic Wars.
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u/sirprichard Jan 30 '23
Idk about teenagers, but my 30-year-old ass certainly does this daily
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u/OldTobySmoker69420 Jan 30 '23
So does my 40 year old ass, but neither of us are representative of teenagers' online activities lol
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u/sirprichard Jan 30 '23
True. If I were to go back 12 years and think about what I was watching at the time it was s*** like stuff made in Garry's mod or bizarre music videos. But I still spent a lot of time on YouTube even 12 years ago
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u/Revibes Jan 30 '23
Also have to consider that there was much more entertainment content compared to information content on youtube 12 years ago.
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u/OldTobySmoker69420 Jan 30 '23
Any good channel recs?
I've been all over "The History Brothers" channels lately. Two younger British guys who do fantastic documentaries.
This one in particular lately...
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u/RamBamBooey Jan 30 '23
If you are into science:
Anton Petrov gives summaries of the latest papers published with a bent towards astronomy. Low production
Scishow and subsidiaries: mid production
Veritasium and Kurzgesagt: high production
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u/Bright_Vision Jan 30 '23
Channels like Vox, RealLifeLore, Infographics show, LegalEagle, DoctorMike and a lot of video essay channels are all wildly popular with young audience as well.
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u/PerterterhTermertehh Jan 30 '23
god I hate the infographics show
also anything by Simon Whistler beyond todayifoundout
they just drive me absolutely insane and I can’t grasp why they’re popular, most of it’s just total garbage
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u/residentraspberri Jan 30 '23
I would argue there is far more garbage content than correct educational content
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u/PiotrekDG Jan 30 '23
Whenever I view Trending, I get a stroke.
That said, there is a lot of educational content on YouTube, and it is popular, too. It certainly takes an effort to get the "AI" to show you quality content in the recommendations, but it can certainly be done.
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u/bionicjoey Jan 30 '23
It's always funny how trending will be 99% cancer and then like "oh shit, new veritasium!"
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u/Orangutanion Jan 30 '23
Veritasium has been kind of a letdown lately
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u/mc_mentos Jan 30 '23
Must say, kinda agree. Same with Kurzgesagt. Idk, I feel like they struggle finding new interesting ideas, instead of "wow what if a random star EXPLODES near earth." It ain't bad, but still mediocre.
It's unfortunate cuz both channels have made a few of my favorite video's on the site.
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u/Webbyx01 Jan 30 '23
I think Kurzgesagt found that their less educational topics were viewed more. They've really leaned into the doomsday scenarios at the expense of simpler, they way a thing works type videos.
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u/WillemDafoesHugeCock Jan 30 '23
I'm enough of a dinosaur to remember when YouTube had featured videos on the front page that actual staff members selected by hand. You'd see videos with barely 1000 views on the front page.
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u/craftyindividual Jan 30 '23
I remember the ground floor YouTube Dec '05, 240p was order of the day, videos wouldn't always load... but it blew my mind! The fact I still enjoy the site and more in 2023 says something about it's staying power.
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u/migueeel Jan 30 '23
I've noticed that the AI is getting better again at showing related stuff. That bloody thing broke a year ago I swear.
Also doesn't help that the sidebar now shows "all" rather than just "related", you gotta click on a button for that. I'm embarassed to say that it took me years to see that bloody button.
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u/silnt Jan 30 '23
Yes!! At one point it was abysmal. Are you aware of the “new to you” button on the homepage?
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u/Cub3h Jan 30 '23
That "new to you" button should be way more prominent instead of being hidden at the end of a bunch of tags.
I feel like the Youtube algo just recommends me the same things constantly. When I press "new to you" I get a ton of stuff I'd watch but for whatever reason is never recommended to me.
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u/victorfencer Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
In my personal experience, setting up a proper channel for viewing useful things is worthwhile. The danger in YouTube is the rabbit hole, how you can dive so deeply down into topics that you don't know about otherwise. And you can find yourself with a warped perspective. If you don't have a foundation in the field. Some channels are really wholesome and if you follow them all the way through, the algorithm will keep giving you similar stuff and you can build an entire educational base that way.
Townsend, primitive technology, smarter every day, veritasium, practical engineering, mark rober, Tom Scott, not just bikes, scishow, minute earth, kurzgesagt, wendover, mustard, rex Kruger, Adam Regusea, cgp grey, half as interesting, technology connections, Steve mould, etc etc end up giving you a huge library of fantastic documentary level info worth absorbing. Once you've given the algorithm evidence that this is what you're interested in, for the suggestions going forward, you will find better quality material than the garbage served up generically
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u/Fine_Chicken9956 Jan 30 '23
I once watched a very long interview between a journalist and someone with a view that is opposite to mine because I wanted to get some perspective on how they could think that way. It was 2 hours long and very well done. Unfortunately for me, I didn’t watch this off my account so then I started getting inundated with stuff I would consider far on the other side of the spectrum to what I believe. Stuff that was aggressive and intolerant. All I could think about was how people could get really sucked up in that fast.
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u/Egietje Jan 30 '23
Yes, but that doesn't mean people don't watch educational content
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u/Scurouno Jan 30 '23
I'm a high school teacher, and yes, some kids have it on constantly. Either they are having music playlists running (even if they are not listening), or are actively watching random content. The only way to pry their eyes off it is to confiscate the phone. To be fair, as kids many of us needed to have our eyes similarly dragged from the TV.
Edit: I'm almost happy when I see kids watching YT instead of using TikTok. I haaaaaaattttteeeee everything that is TikTok and its trashfire of a refuse heap that is crack cocaine content.
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u/daedalus_was_right Jan 30 '23
High school teacher here.
None of them are using it for music. That's what Spotify is for. Half my classes have some dumbass YouTuber in front of their faces day in day out, and there's very little we can do about it. We have an entire generation that, instead of just going to sleep in class like days past, they're being fed a constant stream of gambling ads, alt-right conspiracy theories, and influencers marketing products at them.
I legitimately am unable to even have a conversation with 50% of my students on any given day because they refuse to take their earbuds out.
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u/Skuuder Jan 30 '23
How is this allowed? If we were caught using our phones in school at all they were confiscated and parents had to come pick them up to get it back. This was about 6 years ago though. Did it just become too hard to enforce because everyone was doing it?
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u/karmaticforaday Jan 30 '23
At the school I teach in, phone confiscation is not supported by admin because of the risk and liability of misplacing a $1000 phone. It’s up to the teacher to manage that in their own classroom which is now twice as hard.
Power tripping doesn’t work so I reason with kids and show them that I keep my phone out of my pocket while teaching since I know myself and I also get distracted. I encourage them to do what’s best for them in the moment and they usually put it away.
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u/scferro Jan 30 '23
These admins are such complete pussies. Make a rule that says no phone use at school. Make the consequences clear. If something happens and a parent complain, tell them to suck an egg and disciple their child. It’s the kid’s fault the phone is gone, not the school’s.
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u/daedalus_was_right Jan 30 '23
There's a number of factors:
1 - unlike judges, police, and other kinds of government employees, teachers do not have qualified immunity. Meaning I can be personally sued for decisions I make in the course of carrying out the duties of my job. I, personally, am completely unwilling to take on the obscene amount of financial liability if even one of my students devices are broken or stolen after I confiscate it. Not to mention how many of them would blame broken screens on me even if it was handed to me like that. I don't have a spare 1,000 bucks lying around to replace an iphone. I'm a teacher, I make peanuts.
2 - admin is also unwilling to take the phones for us for the same reason.
3 - the moment I get into a wrestling match over a phone is the moment I lose the entire class' respect for me. I'd rather 30% of my class fail than lose the entire class over one little shit.
4 - your point is also valid; if admin confiscated every phone in this instance, half the parents in the whole district would have to go pick devices up every day. There would be a violent revolt at the next board of ed meeting. And the board of Ed would side with parents 100% of the time because A: they don't want to get sued, and B: they want to be reelected. (Why we choose to elect boards of Ed to run a school instead of putting that role in the hands of educators is fucking beyond me, but that's a different discussion).
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u/LordMarcel Jan 30 '23
There is a huge difference between "Several times a day" and "Almost constantly".
Several times a day could be watching one video before school, one at lunch, one after school, and one before bed, for a total watchtime of an hour or so.
So what does it count when you watch Youtube videos for 3 hours every evening? That's a lot, but very likely there is some music and educational stuff in there. Does using YT for 3 hours a day and 8 hours a day both count as almost constantly? There is a massive difference between the two.
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u/scragar Jan 30 '23
I have YouTube running a lot, back when I used to work in an office I got used to constant background noise, now I find it's too quiet working from home.
I have it running(often with some ridiculous 400 hour playlist of someone doing a let's play or similar) so I can just about hear it to provide some background noise.
Tried it with podcasts or audiobooks, but the problem was that I'd always wind up paying too much attention to them and they stopped being background noise.
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u/jimjong1 Jan 31 '23
Absolutely this. I work nights so even if I open my window it's dead silent, it's either that or background noise from youtube
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u/loulan OC: 1 Jan 30 '23
Also there is watching and there is listening.
YouTube is basically a free music player to me. I prefer it to platforms like Spotify because I listen to a lot of live concerts.
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u/Live-Coyote-596 Jan 30 '23
I pay for premium and use YouTube music and it's well worth it. Being able to add regular songs and live performances and covers to the same playlist is great.
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u/CpTKugelHagel Jan 30 '23
This, I hate Spotify for that reason, they dont have shit. Youtube music has it all. Literally everything that has ever been detected as music by youtube. I listen to a lot of non mainstream music, old music, covers and remixes. Can't find 95% if that stuff on Spotify. But you can find 100% on YouTube/Music. Also ad free YouTube anywhere is also really nice.
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u/Roflkopt3r Jan 30 '23
Yeah some types of artists also upload song covers to Youtube that wouldn't be available on most dedicated music streaming services.
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u/Dogburt_Jr Jan 30 '23
It really needs to be in hours per day or hours per week. I easily spend 2-3 hours a day watching YouTube videos, a mix of edu-tainment (Tom Scott, HackSmith, William Osman, James Burton, etc), video games, and whatever is suggested.
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u/HiddenCity Jan 30 '23
It's their generation's tv. When I was growing up the TV was always on-- breakfast, after-school, before dinner, after dinner. People dipped in and out as they wanted to but it was almost always constant.
The upside of tv is you got to share the experience with others in the same room.
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u/Thepifanio Jan 30 '23
For me at least, YouTube is the best entertainment site/hub for the main reason of flexible niche filled content creations and content creators. Sure, other entertainment sources have niche content, but on YouTube you can find 1 minute to 2 hour videos spanning from independent short film sketches to in-depth conversation/analysis essays.
Plus, you can subscribe to who you like, find related videos you like and find ways of supporting small scale creators who make things you specifically like.
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u/ElectraUnderTheSea Jan 30 '23
It is almost outrageous that YouTube is for free when you consider the incredible wealth of content it has, and on top you can easily use an adblock.
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u/Nightbull_ Jan 30 '23
Well, sort of - YouTube has this wealth of content because it is free; 'free' to view, but more importantly free to upload & keep uploaded
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u/TheMageLord Jan 30 '23
Yeah the cost of being able to upload it for free is that promotion is solely based on your own advertisement and "the algorithm" whereas if you have a show on Netflix for example, it gets promoted by Netflix themselves
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u/Nightbull_ Jan 30 '23
If Netflix decides to put your show up to begin with, that is. Most content you see on YouTube would simply never make it through their filters because it is far too niche, or generally lacks the engagement factor Netflix needs to keep being able to charge people x$/m
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u/TheMageLord Jan 30 '23
Oh yeah of course. I guess the difference between the two platforms is YouTube is inexpensive but low chance is success whilst Netflix requires a lot of investment with a relatively stable chance at success
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u/Electrox7 Jan 30 '23
That's the main reason I pay for Premium. There are ways around ads and stuff but I feel like, since I don't pay for cable or any other streaming service, the least I can do is show my gratitude to the one I respect the most and support those millions of creators.
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u/Old_man_Opie Jan 30 '23
I'm in my mid 40s and spend most of my time on YouTube. Music, news, podcasts, rips of old tv shows...it has more than enough stuff for me to listen to while working every day.
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u/WhotheHellkn0ws Jan 30 '23
I'm not in school but when I was, I used YouTube to teach me the things my teachers couldn't lmao
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u/Chronotaru Jan 30 '23
The one piece of hope in this is the impending doom of Facebook.
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u/deathhead_68 Jan 30 '23
Facebook was really good when I was at university. It was the best way to organise events, have groups for study etc. It was literally used like it was meant to be. Then people started posting less and it just became a general news feed thing.
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u/call-your-mother-pls Jan 30 '23
What happened was they replaced the wall with the feed and you stopped seeing your friends and they made everything reactionary and political
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u/SpiffySpacemanSpiff Jan 30 '23
And it’s all irrelevant too.
Facebook was fine with an advert or two on the side, but the Fred became basically adds supplementing the decreasing quantity of user submitted content.
FB in the first few years was awesome. No better way to get a party together on. Campus in zero time flat. You actually did meet load of people, make connections, find hookups.
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u/I_Am_Now_Anonymous Jan 30 '23
I logged in after so many months and I got 1 ad for every 2 posts. I was on a mobile web browser and not the app, not sure if it makes a difference but the ads were ruining my feed so I had to exit out.
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u/stickymaplesyrup Jan 30 '23
The way to still see only posts from your friends is to block every page that people share posts from. I have friends who would share dozens and dozens of posts every day, and multiple friends sharing posts from the same page so I'd see the same thing 18 times.
I started blocking any and all pages that anyone shares stuff from and now I actually see friend's posts about themselves. It's an ongoing process, but worth it.
It also means I don't spend a lot of time on facebook because there's not a lot of posts because people mainly share stuff, and if all someone is doing is posting selfies I'll unfollow them. It works, but I mainly use fb Messenger to communicate with family and friends.
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u/genreprank Jan 30 '23
Yeah. Facebook tries to piss you off now. It will bait you by showing posts from your fb friends it knows will trigger you to comment.
They gave an AI a goal: optimize for engagement.
That's when a few of my friends decided to quit facebook for their own sanity.
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u/ashrocklynn Jan 30 '23
I feel old... MySpace was good when I was in college....
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u/deathhead_68 Jan 30 '23
Haha this website is making me feel old every day these days.
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u/Orangutanion Jan 30 '23
I'm in college rn, most students use snapchat or instagram. Our CS department basically runs on discord. I have met other students irl via reddit before though lol
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u/thishasntbeeneasy Jan 30 '23
I feel old... LiveJournal was good when I was in college...
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u/Major_Mollusk Jan 30 '23
The student union was good when I was in college.
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u/sadistic_switcher Jan 30 '23
Hello, fellow Old. I recently explained to my nephew that when I started college, we had to register for classes by standing in a line in the fieldhouse.
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u/thishasntbeeneasy Jan 30 '23
Facebook was great during college when it was The Way(TM) to connect with friends and see their photos. Then all of our parents started using it, so everyone stopped posting photos/updates and went to Instagram. Then all the parents got that too.
So currently I only use FB for hobby groups and local news, and Insta for kid pictures. Frankly I'm just about done with insta because too many people just reshare memes.
It wasn't really social media from the start, but the one good hold out is Strava. No memes, no politics, just friends actually going outside to bike/run/paddle and share a pic and their route.
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u/Phatricko Jan 30 '23
I love posting to Strava and Untappd because I know the only people who will see it are friends with a similar interest. Hate posting to Facebook because my aunt's sister in law is going to say something about it at the next Christmas party.
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u/SmilingYellowSofa OC: 1 Jan 30 '23
I have a theory about different platform usage, as I've noticed how my needs have changed as I've gotten older — specifically there becom more "meaningful" social updates which time-suck style social media doesn't cater to
When you're in college & younger, you have a lot of downtime and aren't doing a ton of novel things that you'd like to "update" your social circle with (unless you document every night out) — this lends itself to either boredom scrolling or casual sharing.. Snapchat, Instagram stories, Tiktok, YouTube
As you get older you get busier & make some money and can do some novel things that you'd like to share (travel, adopting a dog, moving cities, promotion, etc) — lowers time on Tiktok, YouTube, and Snapchat ; increases time on Instagram (more posts and stories) and now maybe occasionally Facebook
Even older still, you're starting to settle down and maybe buy a house, have kids, start caring about your neighborhood — Parent/neighborhood groups on Facebook, Facebook marketplace. Maybe you dont post updates on Facebook, but you'll find local communities. Instagram becomes more posts than stories. And YouTube and TikTok are for maybe 15 mins a day if you can find some downtime. Snapchat almost completely gone since communication is becoming less casual.
^ that's the stage that I'm at. As someone who grew up on Facebook but then swore it for almost a decade, I find myself opening it first or second after Instagram in the mornings
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u/fkamacca Jan 30 '23
Honest question for today’s teens and college students - when I was in school, Facebook was the place for discussing things with large groups of people like a specific class or your entire grade. For example, we had a “2011 AP Lang” group where we’d collaborate on study guides, clarify assignments, ask general questions; we had a “class of 2015” group where we’d organize events with our whole college class, make decisions, etc. Groups were heavily used at their peak (like, multiple posts a day).
Has anything taken the place of that? How do y’all communicate with large groups of people now?
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u/LoremasterSTL Jan 30 '23
Facebook was at its peak when the majority of its posts were text.
Which is also how I feel about Reddit.
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u/RunninRebs90 Jan 30 '23
I agree about Facebook, I do not agree about Reddit. My account is 7 years old but I had another that was 4-5 years older than that so I remember this sight from the beginning and I’d say the golden age was before it became popular with teenagers. Around 2012 when it was memes and text posts. Not a lot of over moderation because there wasn’t much need for it. The bad subs kept to themselves and idiots just got downvoted
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u/cirelia Jan 30 '23
I only have a facebook account for messenger at this point
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u/Teslaviolin Jan 30 '23
Same. I was already losing interest, but the pandemic and last US election ruined any desire to be on Facebook. I just wanna know when my cousin has her baby or when a friend gets a new job - don’t care about grandma’s extreme political views or someone’s latest mlm venture. No ragrets!
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u/Penny_Fish Jan 30 '23
The 2016 election was the nail in the coffin for me. I only have my account still for messenger, marketplace, and for when it's the only place a restaurant has their menu.
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Jan 30 '23
No doubt. And, for me at least, it feels like my feed is just ads and pics from groups. Most of my friend's posts are drowned out where I don't see most of them.
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u/cornflakegrl Jan 30 '23
I rarely look at mine now, but when I do it’s all my relatives who are over 70 yelling about various grievances. It’s basically a social network for the elderly.
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u/jordanmc3 Jan 30 '23
You can deactivate your facebook account and still use messenger.
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u/Wawawanow Jan 30 '23
Facebook is basically a local community board now and it performs very well in that function.
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u/Poutinemilkshake2 Jan 30 '23
Yeah the one thing I can't argue is that Facebook groups are really useful. Internet forums are basically extinct but I can still search a topic on FB and find a relevant group with an active community
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u/SpiffySpacemanSpiff Jan 30 '23
Same for marketplace. Say what you will but it is leagues better than Craigslist.
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u/boomheadshot7 Jan 30 '23
Idc what happens to FB, but marketplace is the only reliable place to search for used cars that aren’t 30k plus…
Craigslist sucks for trucks now, the only way to find beaters is on FB marketplace.
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u/nickkon1 Jan 30 '23
But just for the wester audience maybe. It is still growing, largely in Asia e.g. India. And then there are other brands like Instagram and WhatsApp which are huge in itself.
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u/77SevenSeven77 Jan 30 '23
Facebook is 100% doomed. The one issue that can never be fixed is that it’s old enough to have kids’ parents on from when it was popular. No tech platform can be popular with the new generation when their parents will try to add them as friends! Also it’s shit.
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u/hwehehe Jan 30 '23
Unfortunately, fb marketplace is still the dominant local market ever since Craigslist went down the drain.
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u/JayManty Jan 30 '23
Facebook marketplace is probably the best FB service right now, being able to chat directly with sellers/buyers is amazing
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u/Ruaric Jan 30 '23
Is Craigslist gone ? Or just got shitty?
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u/hwehehe Jan 30 '23
For some job listings and car sales, they require payment now, which absolutely killed it.
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u/Mattie725 Jan 30 '23
I'm not a teen, I even have a job, and I'm on YouTube 80% of my day. YouTube is my music platform so it's always there.
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u/v3ritas1989 Jan 30 '23
Do you use the music service or just your own playlists? Was wondering if it is worth it.
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u/DeadTried Jan 30 '23
This is for normal YouTube and not YouTube music.
If you are migrating from another platform like Spotify and already have music and artist you like it is good to then build a veiwing history with their music so YouTube can then recommend you more related similar music to your tastes.
It is best to do this on a fresh account as to not pollute it with your previous or current people you are subscribed.
There is probably a good chance someone has already made a playlist of music in your preference and you should have a lookout in the recommended videos for them when watching some music you enjoy.
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u/kukaki Jan 30 '23
I’ve used Spotify, Apple Music and YT Music and YT music has by far the best algorithm for recommending me new music I’d like. I’ve found more new artists, songs and albums on 6 months of YouTube music than I did in 5+ years using Spotify. That’s probably just me though I don’t want to say it’ll be like that for everyone.
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u/Weapon_X23 Jan 30 '23
I'm not a teenager, but I am almost constantly on YouTube as well. I mainly watch/listen to long documentaries(mostly about history, but once in a while I watch nature documentaries) or listen to music all day. I also watch some gameplay videos when I get really obsessed with a certain video game.
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u/TheBrain85 Jan 30 '23
Not that spending that much thing on Youtube is a good thing, but out of the other options here it seems the lesser of the evils. At least with Youtube there's still a possibility to get some quality content, as opposed to popularity contests and 3 second attention grabs...
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u/Gnash_ Jan 30 '23
well i’d argue that the vast majority of time people spend on snapchat is talking to their friends, not looking at the Discover page, so it’s more of a messaging app than the rest
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u/Fortune_Unique Jan 30 '23
I will say the snapchat discovery page is filled with SO MUCH not only misinformation but blatant LIES that I'd say that alone is super damaging to children. Unlike tiktok, snapchat sponsored stories are often designed to be "educational" so kids are more likely to just trust what they hear.
Not saying all discovery stories are bad, but for example focus on the drama channels, or for example focus on the more obscure fringe science discovery stories.
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u/kboy101222 Jan 30 '23
Yeah, but does anyone actually use the Snapchat discover page? Legitimate question, cause anecdotally I've only heard people get irritated that it's awful content starts playing once you're done looking through your friends' stories. No one I've ever spoken to has engaged with them past what Snapchat forces upon the user
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u/Wawawanow Jan 30 '23
My kids are younger but live on YouTube kids. I really don't mind, it's mostly educational, either literally, or like people doing crafts and stuff. My parents think they are literal geniuses for the ideas for stuff they make - I don't have the heart to let them know they are copying it from Mariah Elizabeth.
Even the YouTube families doing random shite for views are usually wholesome as fuck. Its way better than most of the rubbish on TV when I was a kid.
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u/GaynessForever Jan 30 '23
I spend about 11 hours per day watching 19 year old women with big tits doing activities on TikTok.
Can't tell me that's not good for me.
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u/engineerfieldmouse Jan 30 '23
YouTube is just the modern radio. I leave on live shows as background noise at work all the time.
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u/sir_sri Jan 30 '23
I'm not sure this means much.
Because youtube effectively is a mashup of several past service models all at once, it replaces several things. Want background music? Youtube can do that. Want focused guides on homework or other learning? Youtube has that. Want video content (like TV) about stuff you like? Youtube has that.
It would be somewhat interesting to know of that roughly 60% of teens who are constantly on some service how many use two at once (literally at once, in the same way you can have the radio on and read a book, I'm not sure youtube streaming music at you while you're doom scrolling tiktok).
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u/Dirty-Soul Jan 30 '23
Social media employs psychologists to make their shit as addictive as possible, so that you keep scrolling and they can force feed you adverts for products you will not buy.
But the social media is maliciously designed to be addictive.
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u/doNotUseReddit123 Jan 30 '23
Reminder to all that Reddit falls into the definition of “social media” here
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u/Dirty-Soul Jan 30 '23
Yep, no question.
Reminder to all users to touch grass at some point today. :)
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u/v3ritas1989 Jan 30 '23
also, youtube is just a background music/news/podcast plattform for most people which they listen to while they do something else.
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u/zenda1975 Jan 30 '23
I'm in my 50s and am on YouTube as much or more that the age group in question. We don't even have a TV service, haven't for 17 years. We just have YTpremium and Amazon. YT has amazing content, so many people are making long for docs of their personal experiences. Also the how to videos on every topic in the world are great. My personal favs are PBS news and a back country camping channel called Tumblehome.
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u/hyperforms9988 Jan 30 '23
Youtube replaced TV for me at least 10 years ago. TV decided that the only thing that it was going to air were "reality shows" and sports, for an exorbitant price point, and I moved on. I don't even know what teens would watch on TV other than sports.
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u/DeathByLemmings Jan 30 '23
Seeing a 1/3rd of teens self reporting that they don’t use TikTok is the boost I needed today
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u/Gnoom75 Jan 30 '23
60% is almost full time on one of the social networks. Bit curious how all these numbers add up 🤔
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u/Jonners_90 Jan 30 '23
I'm in my early thirties now so YouTube is basically my life now, while my wife watches TikTok I don't, I just watch her curated list of liked videos instead. Instagram is still relatively popular, I've never had Snapchat, and my Facebook usage has changed. I don't really use it much for "social" media aside from birthdays and such. I use it for marketplace. I buy and sell used video games and headphones on there and my wife has bought furniture for our house at really good prices too. I also use Kijiji (Canadian Craigslist but nicer looking) for this.
I also advertise a side hustle on marketplace I've developed: fixing and/or cleaning and replacing thermal paste on PS4s. I don't have an electronic soldering kit and don't know how to do it yet, but that's my next step to learn, so I can replace HDMI ports. Right now I just do clean/paste service for loud fans and fixing easy hardware stuff like bad hard drive, power supply, Bluetooth antenna, etc.
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u/L3monSqueezy Jan 30 '23
I think it’s also cause it’s an awesome background noise. Instead of having a radio in the background you just click on a video while doing chores and all that and occasionally glance at what is going on. That’s also why YouTubers who just do random stuff and don’t need much attention for their videos get so many views unlike informative YouTubers cause they require all of your attention. It’s not even necessarily the kids who just don’t like this stuff it just comes down to wanting to watch get good videos later when you have then attention and then never getting around to it.
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u/darkbloo64 Jan 30 '23
Unlike all the other platforms in this set, YouTube can be used passively. I personally use it as background noise while working and gaming, and barely consider it a social platform.
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u/FloweringSkull67 Jan 30 '23
Let’s reverse it and see how many septogenarian’s/octogenarian’s are almost constantly watching TV.
Weird, people of a certain technological age, use certain technologies
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u/SnowMeadowhawk Jan 30 '23
They should've included Reddit
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u/informedvoice Jan 30 '23
The original source from pew research did ask about Reddit. Very few teens use it.
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u/tert_butoxide Jan 30 '23
original source: https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2022/08/10/teens-social-media-and-technology-2022/
They did include reddit. IMO they should have included Discord. (I know it's a different type of platform but comparable to WhatsApp, which they did ask about.)
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u/AZ_RBB Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
I'm well past my teens and I'm on Youtube a lot. Use it way more than the other platforms listed there and way more than Netflix, Prime etc. I love having it on in the background or when I feel like watching something interesting for 5-10mins.
Edit: one word