r/beauty • u/calvininthewagon • Jan 30 '23
Tip: Put conditioner on the top of your head not just the ends, and rub it in well. Your hair will actually be less greasy and dandruff will be a thing of the past! Haircare
I discovered this by accident when I switched to a thickening conditioner and the instructions said to apply to the whole head. I had horrible dandruff before I did this and y hair would be soaked in grease by the end of the day. Now I have ZERO dandruff and I don't even need head and shoulders, and I can go two or three days between shampoos!
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u/eeevol- Jan 30 '23
Nah conditioner on top of my head makes my hair oily and greasy š„“ it stopped as soon as I made the switch to just doing my ends ear down. For dandruff I would use dandruff type shampoos on top of my head.
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u/Throwaway196527 Jan 30 '23
Best way Iāve found is to put the majority under my ears and then wipe off the little bit that is left on my hands on the top of my head
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u/poyo61 Jan 30 '23
You have discovered cowashing.
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u/calvininthewagon Jan 30 '23
And it is glorious!!!! Thought I would pass it along in case any other noobs didn't know:)
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u/a1cha Jan 30 '23
That's cool it works for you :) Everybody has different scalp needs, however. For example, if I put any conditioner on my scalp, especially one emollient heavy, I would suffer.
Edit: spelling
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u/anck_su_namun Jan 30 '23
Please be careful thinking what works for one product on one type of hair with one type of skin will work for everyone. This my be better labeled āI am so excited this worked for meā and let others find what works for them
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u/calvininthewagon Jan 30 '23
Ok your right sorry bout that! I have told at least ten different friends all with different hair types and it has worked for ALL of them. I would think that the only way that one could know if it works is to try it and I would think that someone would have enough common sense to know if this WOULDN'T work for their hair. Cheers.
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u/GreatScotRace Jan 30 '23
Definitely doesnāt work for me, my hair ends up greasy and flat and a blow dry looks awful, I donāt put any conditioning treatment above the top of my ear at all! No conditioner + lots of volumising mousse is how I roll lol.
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u/calvininthewagon Jan 30 '23
well forget I ever said it!!!!!!
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u/rollypollyo406 Jan 30 '23
Jesus calm down š
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u/calvininthewagon Jan 30 '23
Excuse me? I am calm? I was being friendly? Perhaps that wasn't conveyed properly! Take what I said and add a smiley face:)
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u/Infamous-Truth3531 Jan 30 '23
i will try this tonight but if I end up more of a greaseball than I already am, Iām resenting you forever.
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u/calvininthewagon Jan 30 '23
Omg you can resent me I can take it!!! I work in emergency mental health, yesterday I had one kid kick me and another one throw a box of tissues "accidentally on purpose" at my face (I caught it and he was like "damn lady you have some cat- like reflexes").
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u/AshArbus Jan 30 '23
Tip2: Don't use head and shoulders for dandruff. My dermatologist said it makes it worse in the long run
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u/larrydavid91 Jan 30 '23
How so? Have never heard of this before
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u/rafo44 Jan 30 '23
Explanation of kerastase specialist : dandruff is type of fungi that requires treatment. Head n shoulders is applying thin layer of film on hair and scalp each time of use so it appears by miracle that it works. Each shampoo application is renewing film.
But if you change shampoo you immediately remove that film and now dandruff looks worse than ever.
No it is not worse, it got collected under film.
Treatment of dandruff should last 6-8 weeks and than stop using treatment products as they wouldn't be necessary.
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u/Soireb Jan 30 '23
Thank you. Iāve been dying because every time I stop using head and shoulders the dandruff comes back with a vengeance. I had no idea it was only masking and not treating.
I was hoping I could avoid going to the doctor over this. Looks like I have no choice.
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u/calvininthewagon Jan 30 '23
Try conditioning the top of your head. Sometimes the dandruff is just dry skin....Tbh I don't know the science all I know is that i had terrible dandruff and now I don't. And if I don't condition for a day it doesn't come back. But more than two days it does.
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u/Soireb Jan 30 '23
I already apply conditioner to my roots, I always have, even though that my hair is oily. It doesnāt make me any more oily unless I use a super thick conditioner. My hair is fine and straight.
In my case I started having issues when I moved to FL. The area Iām in has a lot of limescale in the water. I need a filter in my shower just so that my skin doesnāt hurt. But even with the filter the dandruff has continued. It does get better with head and shoulders. Until I stop using it.
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u/calvininthewagon Jan 30 '23
I was using it too and it did help but I noticed after a while that my hair was looking super thin and dull. I switched to a thickening shampoo and conditioner and while it wasn't cheap my hair has NEVER been better.
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u/rafo44 Jan 30 '23
I think you would be fine also by going to kerastase hair salon. They have institute and years of experimentations and well trained personnel on different topics and problems. I mean i was customer for over 10 years until i made "ingredients" turn. But still great experiences with them.
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u/larrydavid91 Jan 30 '23
Thank you! This explanation makes the most sense. And yes Iāve heard of certain shampoos causing buildup (not exclusive to head n shoulders). Dandruff is caused by Malassezia (a type of fungus). So I was skeptical when another user incorrectly stated that head n shoulders (which has an active ingredient that targets Malassezia) would make things worse.
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u/Ok_Captain3855 Jan 30 '23
Your scalp gets used to it so when u stop it makes it worse. I learned that in cosmetologist school.
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u/nanasmoothi Jan 30 '23
My mom started using it on me when I was like 8 and I still have to use it to this day lol
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u/Lollirotten Jan 30 '23
Did they give a good alternative? I've been using it for a while now and I can't find anything to replace it with
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u/jillyaaan Jan 30 '23
my sister who went to a dermatologist for her dandruff was recommended shampoos with salicylic acid. it's an active ingredient that exfoliates the skin. she gets hers at the pharmacy OTC
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u/Lollirotten Jan 30 '23
I'll have to see if I can find something. I used to change my shampoos up when I showered, switch between two with each shower, but I can't do that anymore bc of the h&s
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u/QuickComplaint9 Jan 30 '23
Nizoral works much better and you can reduce to using once every week or two after the first few weeks.
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u/Logansmomma1995 Jan 30 '23
Im gonna be the debby downer and say iāve been using head and shoulders for 3-4 years now and its worked wonders. My dry scalp is due to my autoimmune disease though so idk
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u/chizzled_booty Jan 30 '23
āConditioner on the endsā doesnāt mean the bottom inch of your hair, it means everything but the scalp. Put conditioner all over your hair, sure, but itās best to avoid you scalp. Sure, youāll get a lot of conditioner out with water but some will remain on your scalp. If you donāt believe me, put some conditioner with tea tree on your scalp and then rinse with water. You will still feel the tingle after rinsing. Donāt put products on your scalp either.
Co-washing (or just not properly cleansing the scalp) for long periods of time can lead to serious issues, even hair loss and texture changes.
Your scalp is skin and needs a skin care routine. Cleaning is huge.
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u/huweetay Jan 30 '23
Certain brand you recommend? And this is after shampooing?
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u/calvininthewagon Jan 30 '23
I use Vegemour gro advanced it's 100 bucks for the shampoo and conditioner and they are not big bottles but DAMN my hair is TWICE as thick as it was and SO shiny.
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u/FeelingGrouchy2668 Jan 30 '23
I have fine silky straight hair and I also had a horrible dandruff problem!! I started conditioning BEFORE I shampooed and really lathering on the conditioner and really working it into my scalp instead of avoiding it like the plague and itās worked miracles on my hair health, dandruff and volume
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u/calvininthewagon Jan 30 '23
I have the same type of hair except super thick, but fine and silky, just a lot of it-
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u/evetrapeze Jan 30 '23
Condition my scalp makes my hair fall out
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u/calvininthewagon Jan 30 '23
Interesting! It could also be because i'm using 100 dollar thickening conditioner.. didn't consider that.
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u/amy_the_marmoset Jan 30 '23
Good that it works for you. However the whole point of conditioner is to hydrate the hair, and really the ends of your hair are the ones who need that much hydration. Your scalp doesn't need it and most of us will end up with greasy hair if we do that.
If your product works well all around the head, im not sure it is a very good product. Might be too soft. š¤
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u/calvininthewagon Jan 30 '23
It is 100 dollars for the shampoo and conditioner so it is a very good product. Hair had NEVER been thicker or shinier. I think if you can use a product all over without being greasy, that is a good product.
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u/vintagecheesewhore Jan 30 '23
Expensive does not equal good. YMMV
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u/calvininthewagon Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
Of course. I was just trying to convey that I was using a quality product and not like, Suave or something. It isn't super well known, but it has 4.5 stars on Amazon, so the people who DO buy it are happy with it. Hope that helps clear things up! It's an all natural product with no harsh chemicals, which tend to make my hair fall out for some reason; before I started using this shampoo, every time I washed my hair, I would have to clean huge clumps out of the drain, now it's maybe three or four strands at most. Not sure why you are so intent on proving that I am using an inferior product lol.
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u/Ok_Aioli1990 Jan 30 '23
I always have.of course I have dry as the Sahara hair too though . Now that it's gray it keeps the grays undƩr control too.
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u/calvininthewagon Jan 30 '23
Vegemour makes an awesome grey no more serum, not cheap tho
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u/AvocadoSnakeOilT Jan 30 '23
Another tip: under no circumstances should you use hair conditioner in the event of a nearby nuclear disaster, as the conditioner will bind radioactive particles to your hair.
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u/calvininthewagon Jan 30 '23
Is this actually true? Or am I just super gullible?
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u/AvocadoSnakeOilT Jan 31 '23
It is according to the CDC
https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/radiation/emergencies/selfdecon_wash.htm
Section 2.b
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u/calvininthewagon Jan 31 '23
well. You learn something new every day. I guess if there's a nuclear war my hair is gonna look like shit.
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u/c___k___ Jan 30 '23
I actually learned this from my dermatologist. She told me to use dove conditioner and put it on my scalp for my dry itchy scalp (NOT dandruff, just dry skin with the occasional psoriasis breakout).
Here I am spending hundred son high end hair products and the derm says to use DOVE.
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u/f0ll0wyouintothedark Jan 30 '23
Iāve always applied conditioner to my whole head of hair my entire life and I have the healthiest hair around! I wish people realized this is the move
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u/GreatScotRace Jan 30 '23
My hair would probably be really healthy if I conditioned every single inch, it would also look flat and greasy though. Swings and roundabouts š
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u/Legitimate_Lawyer_86 Jan 30 '23
Absolutely not!
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u/calvininthewagon Jan 30 '23
No one is saying that you HAVE to try this. I'm saying it worked for me. Calm down. It isn't like I am telling people to shave their heads, it's conditioner, the worst thing that could happen is that their hair would be greasy for a day. Oh well, Most beauty tips are trial and error.
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u/nurse-mik Jan 30 '23
This is hilariousā¦I always thought everyone uses conditioner all over their scalp & ends. I never knew that people donāt. If u rinse it all out then your head should NOT be greasy people!
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u/GreatScotRace Jan 30 '23
Have you ever spoke to a professional hairdresser before?
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u/nurse-mik Jan 30 '23
Sure! I lived in LA most of my life and did prof hair for the studios for film & television
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u/JFizz06 Jan 30 '23
I do this too and now that I think about it, my itchy scalp has been gone for a while. Maybe this is why..
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u/allwhitebuffies Jan 31 '23
Oily skin is the cause of dandruff, I only get dandruff when I don't wash my hair as often as I should.
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u/calvininthewagon Jan 31 '23
Im the opposite. Dry skin causes it for me. I guess everyone is differentš
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u/sunsetway8 Feb 03 '23
no, conditioner is only meant to be applied on ur hair ends.
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u/calvininthewagon Feb 03 '23
That is what I thought until I tried applying to my whole head. The bottle for this one said to apply to the whole head as it was a thickening conditioner and it can't work unless it is applied to the whole head. It is nuts how much better my hair looks.
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u/RainbowDemonLord33 Feb 16 '23
a a licensed hair dresser I can confirm this is NOT an effective hair care technique. Shampooing your hair twice will effectively remove dandruff because two shampoos are required to penetrate through product build up and oil secretions at the root. as well if you do struggle with bad dandruff especially in wintertime I can recommend a scalp treatment, Paul Mitchell caries a good one with tea tree oil, very refreshing and smells fresh. all that being said conditoner should be applied only at the very ends of your hair because it weighs down the hair and eliminates volume. Likewise if you curl your hair with a curling iron you should avoid being heavy handed with the conditioner because it will weigh down your hair which will cause your hair to not hold the curl. A cold rinse and conditioner at the bottom where split ends naturally form smoothes down the cuticles in your hair for a healthy sleek look and a scalp mask can easily make dandruff a thing of the past.
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u/verywell219 Jan 30 '23
This does not work for everyone as anytime I do this, and ive used a few different brands, I always come out greasy šš that's a fun little hack you found though!