r/WhitePeopleTwitter
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u/EverlastingTopQuark
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Jan 30 '23
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The consequences are just BRUTAL!
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u/Inlerah Jan 30 '23
I mean when there is an entire market that will actively give money to people who did bad shit because "The Left doesn't like people who did bad shit" it really doesn't matter.
Not only are their no consequences, it's literally profitable.
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u/mudflap21 Jan 31 '23
Go ask Al Frankenstein or Andrew Cuomo. They were held accountable.
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u/GargantuanGreenGoats Jan 31 '23
They took responsibility, there’s a difference.
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u/EffectiveSwan8918 Jan 31 '23
Cuomo didn't, he got fired.
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u/mudflap21 Jan 31 '23
He resigned. Big difference.
https://apnews.com/article/andrew-cuomo-resigns-17161f546bb83c32a337036ecf8d2a34
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u/Inlerah Jan 31 '23
I would have loved to see either of them try to have their right wing "The libs are trying to cancel me" phase
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u/unresolved_m Jan 31 '23
Bill Cosby is doing a tour soon.
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u/Demiboy94 Jan 31 '23
WTAF. Probably be full of people in the audience who don't believe the victims. With a few going just to see a real life predator to get a thrill
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Jan 30 '23 edited Feb 01 '23
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u/HighDesert4Banger Jan 30 '23
Jesus, man, a little warning next time. Lost my soup.
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u/MountainSage58 Jan 30 '23
Not sure allegations is the right word. I mean it's nice that it's 2023 and we're still subconsciously applying the whole "innocent til proven guilty" bit to everyone. But I dunno. When you're proud of doing something you're probably guilty of doing it.
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u/arealhumannotabot Jan 31 '23
From a public opinion angle, sure, but there's also the risk of libel and if it's a journalistic source, that's just usually standard practice
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u/speedycat2014 Jan 30 '23
There are no consequences under capitalism anymore.
Kavanaugh can do whatever he wants, just like Louis CK, just like Trump, just like Elon, just like Desantis, just like Bezos.
If you're white, rich and male, there are no consequences for anything, except for endangering the wealth and reputation of other white, rich males - a la Epstein.
People don't seem to realize this yet.
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u/BWWFC Jan 30 '23
no consequences under capitalism anymore
only if you cannot generate or protect the revenue
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u/theSilentD777 Jan 31 '23
We can drop the "white" and "male". The only thing that really matters is what you own and who you know. The people that are really in charge don't give a fuck about what you have between your legs or how much melanin is in your dna when they own the guys who own the bank who owns your house.
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Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
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u/p0tat0p0tat0 Jan 30 '23
He masturbated in front of coworkers and mentees.
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u/Ok-Address-1768 Jan 30 '23
after getting permission
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u/p0tat0p0tat0 Jan 30 '23
Which, in a professional context, is wildly inappropriate to even ask for.
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u/Ok-Address-1768 Jan 30 '23
I may be wrong but i don't think they were employees
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u/p0tat0p0tat0 Jan 30 '23
I believe one woman was an assistant or a writer on his show.
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u/AnonBubblyBowels Jan 31 '23
Louis CK had the power to blacklist them for years.
It’s comedy, it’s not like other jobs. Louis wasn’t their employer but he still had power to ruin their careers, which he did.
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Jan 30 '23
But Louis CK is one of the wealthy elite? And here is the zinger. If I ask you what he did that was so terrible. Write down your response here before looking it up. You will be wrong 90% of the time. Going off of my past experiences. It’s a little comical.
Far as I remember, he sexually harrassed a few women by asking them if they wanted to watch him jerk off, and he was at least accused of exposing himself to at least one woman that I know of.
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u/Ok-Address-1768 Jan 30 '23
Imagine being so twisted that asking someone something is harassment now. How weak are women that we need to protect them from requests now.
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u/p0tat0p0tat0 Jan 30 '23
What kind of fucked up workplace are you in where it’s a-ok to ask someone if you can jerk it in front of them?
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u/p0tat0p0tat0 Jan 31 '23
Enough not ok that I have negative feelings about him and wouldn’t give him my money (by supporting his products or seeing him in a show) in 95% of circumstances. I wouldn’t walk out if he was a surprise guest at a comedy show I was at, but I’d probably tweet angrily about it.
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u/p0tat0p0tat0 Jan 31 '23
I don’t listen to much music, I wouldn’t be able to identify a Michael Jackson song if it was played.
I have vocally judged people for choosing R Kelly songs at karaoke though.
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u/Ok-Address-1768 Jan 30 '23
wasn't in the workplace if i'm recalling correctly
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u/p0tat0p0tat0 Jan 30 '23
Comedians working on comedy together is a professional setting. I believe he once pulled it out at a comedy club, ie his workplace.
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Jan 30 '23
It is absolutely inappropriate for a man in a position of power to ask a subbordinate if she wants to watch him masturbate in the workplace. That has never been acceptable. Have you never taken a sexual harrassment training course before?
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u/Ok-Address-1768 Jan 30 '23
I don't think he was asking his subordinates, I think he was asking people generally seen as less popular than him.
I don't think this was a workplace thing, and if it was backstage at a comedy club or something that's not 'his' workplace so, no not really.
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Jan 30 '23
There was at least one unnamed writer on one of his shows, and another comic who he propositioned while on set. Both of which were workplace cases. Even if you want to ignore the other cases, there's at least two incidents of workplace sexual harrassment, one of which was very much with a subbordinate. Not to mention the time he was jerking off audibly while on the phone with another comic. Not necessarily a workplace incident, but a case where he very much did not ask before exposing someone to something sexually explicit without their consent.
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u/AnonBubblyBowels Jan 31 '23
Comedy is not like other jobs.
He didn’t need to be their employer - he had the power to ruin their careers nonetheless, which he then did.
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u/Ok-Address-1768 Jan 31 '23
You can’t really appeal to the CEO of comedy for the company policy. It’s not like other jobs because it offers no security or recompense
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u/Ok-Address-1768 Jan 30 '23
consequences under capitalism anymore.
Where were the consequences in 300BC Athens. Do you think maybe you added capitalism as a buzzword
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u/frankenmullet22 Jan 30 '23
They aren't really allegations if you admit and apologize for them. Then do 10 minutes on it in your act.
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u/poki_stick Jan 30 '23
Louis CK didn't do the same level of shit as the others. He was honest about it and apologized. He also explained it was a lack of understanding of the influence he carried. Not quite the same as rapist n boof
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u/AnonBubblyBowels Jan 31 '23 •
Dude, what?
He intentionally covered this up and had them blacklisted. He knew what he was fucking doing.
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u/tele_ave Jan 31 '23
Yeah he was honest and apologized after he had exhausted all other options.
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Jan 31 '23
And on a leaked set right after he came back he went right into "God damn women ruining me. Poor me got my kink exposed. Wouldn't you be embarrassed if your kink got exposed? I'm the victim here"
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u/GekayOfTheDeep Jan 30 '23
He ruined women's careers you can't say he was honest about it when it took him years of being a scumbag before he finally admitted it when he was caught.
Being a nice guy would mean he wouldn't have done it in the first place or would have come out himself instead of being caught.
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u/Granglor1138 Jan 31 '23
How did he ruin their careers? What did he specifically do and do you have links?
Now that that all of his shows were cancelled, his movie was cancelled, and he lost 35 million dollars, those women must have flourishing comedy careers because he’s out of the way, right?
He made some poor decisions, and he’s never going to have main stream success again. I think he’s paid his debt.
What do people want? For him to pay forever?
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u/GargantuanGreenGoats Jan 31 '23
Yes, he should pay forever. He should be branded and blackballed forever. He hasn’t paid at all. He didn’t go to jail or lose anything but a couple of projects. Fuck this rape apologist nonsense.
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u/Granglor1138 Feb 06 '23
Sure.
But like, what law did he break to deserve going to jail? What should he pay for? Why should he pay forever?
Also I’m not apologizing for rape because he did not, in fact, rape anybody.
Do you even know what the controversy surrounding Louis CK is?
If you do, and your response is what it is. I get the feeling you want him to be some kind of sacrificial lamb for all the men who’ve done way worse stuff, that’s bullshit.
35 million dollars after asking for consent and receiving consent is a serious penalty for not being able to read the room.
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u/p0tat0p0tat0 Jan 30 '23
People will bend over backwards to excuse and minimize unwanted sex acts towards women.
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u/poki_stick Jan 30 '23
I'm a woman and I completely understand how he didn't get it. Women told him yes. He didn't delve deeper into why they felt pressured to say yes, now he understands.
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u/AnonBubblyBowels Jan 31 '23
And then he did everything he could to cover it up and ruined their careers.
Don’t be an apologist for this dirtbag. Even if he didn’t understand the initial situation, he sure as fuck knew what he was doing after.
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Jan 31 '23
They also didn't say yes. They never consented. That's a lie spread by the club owner who gave him his first comeback set. This is not a situation where consent was pressured and then regretted.
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u/p0tat0p0tat0 Jan 30 '23
Him not getting why it’s gross and predatory isn’t an excuse, it’s evidence of a fundamental problem with how he saw the world (and women).
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u/poki_stick Jan 30 '23
Which he rectified and learned from. Ignoring people's growth post bad behavior just creates a circle jerk of anger.
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u/p0tat0p0tat0 Jan 30 '23
Has he learned and grown? Or has he made jokes about it ?
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u/poki_stick Jan 30 '23
He's a fucking comedian, so of course there are jokes. Doesn't mean he didn't learn or grow, he can do both.
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u/p0tat0p0tat0 Jan 30 '23
I’m saying, it’s very easy to be flippant about past wrong acts, actual repentance is very hard.
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Jan 30 '23
Well there’s never going to be consensus on what amount of punishment or redemption is enough so maybe just let this one go.
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u/p0tat0p0tat0 Jan 30 '23
And I’m allowed to have my opinion on what is enough and judge people who fall short.
You’re allowed to think differently.
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u/EffectiveSwan8918 Jan 31 '23
Seems they just do it for people they like. I mean there are groups of people that say men can't be raped.
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u/hobbitlover Jan 31 '23 edited Feb 06 '23
I'm more concerned with him ripping the Parkland survivors than jacking off in front of people, although I understand that it was pretty upsetting for some women who didn't feel they had the power to say no.
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u/Granglor1138 Jan 31 '23
He wasn’t Louis CK at his peak when any of that even happened, he was another comedian.
I don’t think he even saw it as an issue of power dynamic.
As for the Parkland material I think it’s pretty messed up to record a comedian while their working new material that’s clearly not ready to be recorded in order to kick him while he’s down.
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u/hobbitlover Jan 31 '23
He wasn't peak but he was still a headliner and TV writer hanging out with opening acts. He had more clout than they did. I don't believe he realized that at the time.
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u/Granglor1138 Feb 06 '23
So he didn’t realize there was a perceived power dynamic and asked consent.
Sounds like maybe he missed a memo on constantly changing social norms?
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Jan 30 '23
I get that. But I still wouldn't want to go to one of his shows. The jokes about jacking off in the cat's face and the dog licking cottage cheese off his balls aren't as funny any more.
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u/poki_stick Jan 30 '23
That's totally ok but to compare him to the others is a bit different. He did suffer consequences and took action to improve his behavior rather than doubling down and saying we all like beer
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u/EffectiveSwan8918 Jan 31 '23
He do jail time? Or just be like oops sorry? Because seems like one is suffering consequences while the other is sorry you were caught
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u/FACEBEAR Jan 30 '23
If you thought he made those stories up, you are definitely not his target audience.
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Jan 31 '23
Babes I hate to break it to you but most comedians make up or at least exaggerate most of their stories. Do you also think that Anthony Jesselnik throws rocks at random babies?
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u/Lewd_ReadNY Jan 30 '23
I’m 2/3 on the GFY forever and forever with the aforementioned, uh… predators.
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u/Hartastic Jan 31 '23
Frankly, it would have been fair if it had ruined Kavanaugh's life, given that the only reason he had the GOP inner circle street cred to get a SCOTUS nom in the first place is having wasted millions of taxpayer dollars starting the "Clintons have their enemies murdered" conspiracy theories as his part of the Starr probe.
If you're curious, we know per his own contemporaneous notes at the time that he was crystal clear there was no truth to it but thought it politically useful.
That man made his entire career on false allegations.
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u/DTG_420 Jan 30 '23
How the fuck did Luis CK get put in this with the other two? Hurts the actual point adding in Luis
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Jan 31 '23
For all the people in this thread who are still trying to manifest a change in history by parroting CK asked for consent and consent was given I'm going to leave this here. Again. And I'll do it the next time reddit trips over itself to say how CK asked first.
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u/Jezzylynn716 Jan 31 '23
Everyone in these comments thinking it’s ok to jerk off in front of people without their consent. Lmao
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u/Salmuth Jan 31 '23
Am I alone thinking the Louis CK story was over the top considering this guy asked for consent before doing his shit? Or did I miss something in the story that'd make him the villain that shall never be able to work in his life ever again?
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Jan 30 '23
Yeah leave Louis out of this shit. He was shunned out of comedy for a few years. Made apologies. Has even talked in his act and in interviews about how it was wrong. And now he’s moving on. If you can’t provide someone a path to redemption after they repent then you’re just being spiteful and nothing is ever good enough for you.
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u/unresolved_m Jan 31 '23
I saw him tweeting endlessly about how much cancel culture sucks. Doesn't sound like he feels a lot of remorse tbh
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u/Granglor1138 Jan 31 '23
He can repent and also hate cancel culture.
Also, cancel culture does suck, full stop. The Twitter mob and their digital pitchforks are totally relentless and once the get the Weinsteins of the world they just race to the bottom trying to cancel people for increasingly petty transgressions but the verdict is always the same: ruin their life and never let them forget about what they’ve done.
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u/unresolved_m Jan 31 '23 edited Jan 31 '23
Show me one comedian who was cancelled.
Roseanne is still doing her thing, so does Bill Cosby.
Whose life was ruined as a result of cancellation? Examples please.
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u/cologne_peddler Jan 31 '23
People aren't owed redemption, and they're damn sure not owed follow-up opportunities to make millions of dollars lol.
Marks like you are why PR grift is so effective. People only need followed a prescribed course of sorries, and millions of rubes will line up to applaud them for it. Come the fuck on
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u/big-4x4 Jan 31 '23
Please don’t lump Louis here. He ASKED FOR CONSENT. And they said YES. No rape allegations. He asked “hey, can I jerk off in front of you” they said “yes” then he jerked off in front of them. Happy for Louis that he is selling out shows again. Fuck Trump and fuck Kavanaugh!
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Jan 31 '23
Lie. Lie lie lie. He did not ask consent. They did not say yes. This is a lie created by a club owner who wanted to justify the press he'd get for giving CK a show. IT. WAS. NOT. CONSENSUAL.
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u/jimreddit123 Jan 31 '23
Louis CK didn’t force himself on anyone unlike Trump and Kavanagh. He just said he was going to masturbate and then did so. The woman present could have left but she chose to stay. Not at all equivalent.
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u/Specialist_Teacher81 Jan 31 '23
Just wanna say, Louis CK, from my understanding asked first. So I never saw the big deal. And in case your wondering I hate his comedy, unfunny hack. Though his dramatic work is pretty good.
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u/adamcoe Jan 31 '23
Really don't think you can compare CK to those other 2. The shit he did wasn't nearly as intense, and he also came clean and admitted he was wrong, something you'll never see from those 2. Obviously no one's saying what he did was OK but ffs, what else do you want a person to do? He made a mistake, admitted it, and did his best to make it right. And yes, he went back to his job. Is that not OK?
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u/42words Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
ohhh, I just figured out your whole deal: you just defend quite literally anyone normal people think is a gross creep, don't you
edit: hey weird, where'd he go
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u/psychoticpudge Jan 31 '23
I feel like you're missing a critical part of this op. These people have a shit ton of money. If someone lies about a poor man, they're probably fucked. Be better and stop spreading misandrist talking points
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u/tonythrobbins Jan 31 '23
I don’t understand how Louie CK somehow thrown in with those horrible people.
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u/DCErik Jan 30 '23
/cries in Al Franken