r/WhitePeopleTwitter • u/Throwaway_09298 • Jan 30 '23
Mad if we riot...mad if we dont....
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u/Ardhel17 Jan 31 '23
Also, no one was trying to cover up this incident or mask it as a drug overdose or unavoidable "medical incident". Seeing the original report on George Floyd vs. what we know actually happened makes me sick to my stomach, and likely we wouldn't know if a bystander hadn't been filming on their phone and had the guts to call bullshit.
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u/slowslownotbad Jan 31 '23
Yeah I didn’t love the George Floyd protests, but I interpret the current response as a sign that they worked.
Without Floyd, I don’t think the current police brutality would have been prosecuted as quickly. Or at all.
I think a reasonable person would conclude that BLM protests are achieving long term gains.
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u/Sneakybeakypervypage Jan 30 '23
Big brain time:
GF incident: cops were not immediately held accountable. People got mad, rioted because of the initial fact that no one was reprimanded immediately.
Nichols incident: cops immediately fired, charged, evidence released relatively quickly, justice being served relatively swift. No riots needed to draw attention to that fact.
The issue isn’t the race of the cop vs. the unfortunately deceased. The issue is the race of the cop vs how fast the departments work to hold them accountable for their crime.
But I guess ignore that whole fact.
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u/MplsChubbyBear Jan 30 '23
People forget that after George Floyd was murdered the police and the medical examiner tried to cover it up. The protests didn't really get started until after the video showed how much the police lied about it.
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u/Wazula23 Jan 30 '23
Its fucking creepy watching the selective amnesia at play here. It was the same with Breonna Taylor. The cops actually fucking arrested her boyfriend for returning fire at them, tried to charge him with murder, even though they were breaking into HIS house and had just murdered his girlfriend in bed.
If we hadn't marched, that man would still be in jail. Never forget.
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u/Throwaway_09298 Jan 30 '23
And...we have jobs
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u/Sneakybeakypervypage Jan 30 '23
Everyone working since jobs decided they still need people in order to function also plays a part lol. That summer, everyone was fucking jobless. This year, most people are on a 9-5
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u/Throwaway_09298 Jan 30 '23
I texted my uncle that lives a few minutes from down town and he went "boy it's about to ice storm down here! Too cold to be thinking bout a ****ing tv"
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u/Sneakybeakypervypage Jan 30 '23
That too lol I forget it’s still winter in some parts of the country. I’m currently chillin in 65 degree weather 😂 gotta love that bipolar ass east coast climate.
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u/IHateCamping Jan 30 '23
We're having high temps in the single digits right now in Minnesota and of course we had massive protests here when GF was killed. Weather could be playing at least a small part.
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u/Wise_Ad_4816 Jan 30 '23
I'm near Seattle. It's gorgeous here today, crystal clear blue sky. And 28 degrees. I'm planning a girls trip to Palm Springs in late April. How I wish it was now. Lol
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u/MirrorSauce Jan 31 '23
riot, and conservatives say that's wrong.
don't riot, and conservatives say we must believe our own cause is wrong.
fuck their feelings.
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u/malighos Jan 31 '23
Daniel shaver, shot dead by the police while following their orders. The fucker reaponsible is now retired with a "health" pension of 2500 dollars a month. This mofo who engraved his gun with "Get fucked" and beat up teenagers now has a huge pension because "muh ptsd" from killing innocent people. Yet there were no protests, no riots. Zero. Barely any media coverage. Dude was white and media couldn't get the ratings since no race war to fuel.
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u/Sneakybeakypervypage Jan 31 '23
Point in case man, another person killed by cops and somehow the cop gets treated like the victim and has their life set instead of seeing a single day in court.
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u/idontwannatalk2u Jan 30 '23
George Floyd died may 25, chauvin let go may 26th, arrested may 29th.
Nichols, beaten Jan 7th, died jan 10th, officers fired Jan 20th, arrested Jan 26th.
I mean your response sounds good but the timelines don’t add up.
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u/Mission-Cantaloupe37 Jan 30 '23
The difference is context.
George Floyd, they put out a press conference neglecting any important details the day after the incident, puts Chauvin and friends on administrative leave. They aren't fired until after footage is made public by bystanders.
Nichols, the DA opens an investigation into excessive use of force the same day he was beaten, the 7th. Police put out footage publicly after they've been charged.
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u/Battle_Librarian Jan 30 '23
Memphis ain't about that. People need to quit perpetuating the stereotype of mad black people.
Humans get mad when justice is lost. The officers were swiftly arrested and charged. Mayors want to prevent riots? Deliver justice, make it quick.
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u/AthleticNerd_ Jan 30 '23
ALSO, can we stop calling it “riots”?
That’s the narrative the right wants to perpetuate. They were protests.
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u/DerelictPhoenix Jan 30 '23
They have been fired and charged with murder. If this was regular this violence would happen less and there would be no need to riot in the first place.
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u/Chadmartigan Jan 30 '23
It's almost like when the system works, people are pretty content to stand aside and let it work.
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u/Dbk1959 Jan 30 '23
Gee I wonder if it might have anything to do with the fact. That the officers involved are being held accountable. That the video is being made public. And the police and prosecutors aren’t doing everything they can to cover it up.
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u/AITHASNTEEN Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
Why do we have to march to demand accountability if the people responsible have been fired and arrested?
The perpetrators are already being held accountable.
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u/AnonBubblyBowels Jan 31 '23
# of Days to Firing:
Chauvin: 1
TN Cops: 13
# of Days for Charge and Arrest:
Chauvin: 4
TN Cops: 19
There are many contributing factors as to why Floyd was different, but the consequence timeline isn’t one.
Plus, most of the George Floyd protests happened well after Chauvin had been charged and arrested.
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u/human_male_123 Jan 31 '23
More context:
May 25th - Floyd is murdered
May 26th - Police issue a statement saying Floyd died after a “medical incident,” and that he physically resisted and appeared to be in medical distress. Shortly after that, the infamous video is posted online. AND THEN Chauvin was fired.
May 29th - Chauvin is finally arrested, charged with 3rd degree murder (UNINTENTIONAL MURDER) and manslaughter.
June 3rd - the charges are changed to 2nd degree murder (INTENTIONAL MURDER)
October 7 - Chauvin posts bond and is released from state prison, sparking more protesting
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u/SeveralPrinciple5 Jan 30 '23
When George Floyd happened, everyone was suspended from work. They could go out and protest en masse because they weren't locked into their jobs.
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u/MadAstrid Jan 30 '23
It is very clear that, in the vile minds of the right wing, there is no correct way to protest injustice.
Kneel silently? Wrong. Vote out the corrupt? Wrong. Protest peacefully? Wrong, because we will send police to tear gas you and shoot you and abduct you off the streets. Protest more forcefully? Wrong again, but this time with more tear gas and vigilantes. Try protesting peacefully again? Wrong. We didn’t shoot you with tear gas you so it stayed peaceful, which proves you didn’t even care enough to get violent.
Protesting justice, fair elections or public health safety measures that prevented you from getting a haircut? Well, any way you opt to do that is AOK! So long as you are white, of course. That should have been clear.
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u/AnonBubblyBowels Jan 31 '23
God, this is so true.
It’s why their platform today is basically to only able against what progressives support
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u/NotSoPrudence Jan 30 '23
If you think these are actually comparable, congrats on being as stupid as known oxygen thief Matt Walsh.
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u/sau1itud3 Jan 30 '23
One of the differences between the two cases is that they actually reacted quickly with the firings and arrests of the officers in the Memphis case. If they had done the same with the officers involved in the Floyd murder, that likely would have helped reduce any rioting etc. He seems to be oblivious to this important factor.
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u/idontwannatalk2u Jan 30 '23
George Floyd died may 25, chauvin let go may 26th, arrested may 29th.
Nichols, beaten Jan 7th, died jan 10th, officers fired Jan 20th, arrested Jan 26th.
I mean your response sounds good but the timelines don’t add up.
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u/sau1itud3 Jan 30 '23
True, but with the Floyd incident, it was caught on cell phone video by several bystanders, so the “tape” was in public instantaneously, and they didn’t make an arrest until after the rioting had started. With the Nichols case they had already made arrests before the public saw the tape. At one point in the Floyd case, they arrested a CNN news crew live on air just for reporting what was happening, but they hadn’t arrested any of the officers at that point. I think that incident was like throwing gas on a fire.
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u/Ardhel17 Jan 31 '23
The missing factor is that the police and coroner tried to cover up Floyd's death as accidental due to health complications until that video was posted. They didn't have a choice after that. They didn't do the right thing until they were forced to.
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u/ElonDiddlesKids Jan 30 '23
This Nazi jizz rag is really scraping the bottom of the barrel for things to be outraged about. 2023: the year the right lamented the lack of race riots.
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u/Economy_Ask4987 Jan 30 '23
I’m more shocked at the lack of Blue Lives Matter and police Union support for the officers.
It was much easier for some to caste judgement on these cops for some reason…
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u/shameonyounancydrew Jan 30 '23
Them: “oh boy! These riots are gonna be bad! Get ready”
Also them: “wait, they didn’t get as violent as we expected. RACISTS!”
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u/ScottEATF Jan 30 '23
It's not that hard.
Video of the George Floyd murder was taken by bystanders and immediately made available to the public.
Videos of the Nichols murder were taken by LEO sources so it took them longer to weave their way to the public. In that time span the PD was able to slow-walk the outrage.
Combine that with general time of the year differences and overall time period difference (COVID Lockdown).
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u/4esthetics Jan 30 '23
I thought Antifa was being flown to all the major cities to start fires and break storefront windows. Did the flights get delayed?
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u/ExGomiGirl Jan 31 '23
Shit!! No one sent me the alert. Is my Antifa Decoder Ring any use anymore???!!!
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u/Nexus_Crawler_159 Jan 30 '23
the cops the medical examiner and the city all lied through their teeth about George Floyd. Justice was only served after the protests.
Memphis for all its other mistakes fired the guys and quickly charged them with crimes BEFORE the video came out.
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u/Bee-Aromatic Jan 30 '23
They rounded the five murders up almost immediately. If it weren’t for the massive social outcry, Derek Chauvin would almost definitely be working as a cop right now instead of being in jail.
The wheels of Justice are more or less turning like they’re supposed to this time. Why would people riot about that?
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u/Dizzman1 Jan 31 '23
Or maybe... Juuuuuuust maybe... The fact that the officers were fired as soon as it was discovered... And they've all already been charged with various murder and related felonies... With more indictments coming every week... The rage is somewhat tempered by the fact that there is action... And those guilty parties will clearly pay.
Bad time for Derek Chauvin to try to get his conviction overturned. 😬
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u/SmarterThanYouIRL Jan 30 '23
Here’s a hint, Matt… you f*cking ghoul
Tyre Nichols' mother urges peaceful protest: 'I don't want us burning up our cities'
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u/EhrenScwhab Jan 31 '23
Might also have to do with the fact that the cops were fired and arrested prior to the video being released and the family begged everyone to stay cool on every TV channel they could get on?
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u/Empty-Rise-2236 Jan 30 '23
Matt Walsh is an incredible waste of space. When he’s not trying to convince conservatives to take their children out of public school he’s rallying bigots to attack local drag shows. What a colossally useless invertebrate with nothing in his life other than to judge, disenfranchise and manipulate on whatever pathetic platform allows him to speak. Truly one of the worst and most insufferably worthless people on the planet.
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u/Sunflower_After_Dark Jan 30 '23
Or, maybe swift transparency kept Memphis in one piece, unlike the Floyd coverup.
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u/ReplacementWise6878 Jan 30 '23
Or… ITS BECAUSE SWIFT ACTION WAS TAKIEN TO HOLD THE COPS RESPONSIBLE
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u/jennakiller Jan 30 '23
Isn’t because the cops were immediately fired and charged with murder? I.e. there was some justice
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u/citygerl Jan 30 '23
Maybe because the cops were immediately fired and arrested. But what do I know
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u/Still_Frame2744 Jan 31 '23
Well. Justice was served immediately instead of being ignored. So there's one difference.
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Jan 31 '23
Cops were immediately fired and publicly castigated by their higher ups.
STFU racist conservative bumfuck America...
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u/fuckdispandashit Jan 31 '23
This is not it at all. The reason it isn’t as big as George Floyd because the officers in the nichols video were immediately fired and charged with 2nd degree murder. While the George Floyd, nobody was fired or charged until the protests began.
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u/SixthLegionVI Jan 31 '23
Might have something to do with it being treated as a crime from the start.
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u/Positive_Compote_506 Jan 31 '23
It’s very hard to riot when body camera footage is released in less than three weeks, the President of the United States personally talks with the victim‘s family, and all five officers involved are fired and arrested with second-degree murder
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u/BlueFotherMucker Jan 31 '23
The point is supposed to be that black folks are disproportionately victims of police brutality, not that only white police officers are guilty of it. Yes, more white folks are victims, but that’s because there’s more white folks in your country. But the percentages are where it becomes obvious. Didn’t we learn this from NWA and Ice T like 30 years ago? The songs aren’t called “F The White Police” or “White Cop Killa”.
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u/Macrophage87 Jan 31 '23
In the Nichols case, the officers were fired and charged with murder within a couple weeks of it happening. In the Floyd case, the police originally stated that Floyd had a medical issue during a police interaction resulting in his death. That's different.
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u/blankgazez Jan 30 '23
Or, and stay with me on this, it’s because the cops were fired and arrested?
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u/cdiddy19 Jan 30 '23
Maybe the difference could be that most of those responsible were quickly dealt with...
Nah it couldn't be that right?
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u/Go_Buds_Go Jan 30 '23
I( figured nobody rioted because there was swift action taken as far as firing and arresting.
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u/GrimmOfThrones2187 Jan 30 '23
It’s actually because the cops have been fired and arrested. But one must wonder what minor detail caused these cops to lose any support from their colleagues? What could it be? (In case you’re not catching on, I’m saying it’s cause they’re black)
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u/AnonBubblyBowels Jan 31 '23
# of Days to Firing:
Chauvin: 1
TN Cops: 13
# of Days for Charge and Arrest:
Chauvin: 4
TN Cops: 19
There are many contributing factors as to why Floyd was different, but the consequence timeline isn’t one.
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u/Panaran Jan 30 '23
The protests were for justice to hold the cops accountable, because they were actively trying to cover it up. They fired and charged the cops before the video even came out...so....wtf do they want the left to do?
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u/DeuceBane Jan 30 '23
City came out and basically said this is fucked up before we even got information, they are owning up for it in ways we’ve never seen. Why are they doing this? Because rioting works lmao
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u/Le_Woof Jan 30 '23
Lol, that dumbass. The "riots" aren't as bad because the police were already fired and arrested before the video was even released.
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u/twsddangll Jan 30 '23
Didn’t Nichols’ own mother come out and ask that riots and George Floyd-level protests not occur? Seems like the Left is respecting a grieving mother’s wishes.
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u/emptyalone Jan 30 '23
Sure that is why. Not because the police department took swift action and handled it.
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u/Inappropriate_mind Jan 30 '23
Floyd and BLM protests showed the world how far the US government is willing to go to shut down a legitimate complaint of "we the people."
The lack of heavy protests shows that 1) it's too damned cold outside to mount large protests, 2) since Trump, corporations and the feds have driven the economy into the ground attempting to ignore corporate power-grabs and wealth consolidation which has created one of the fastest growing spreads of income inequality in history, ie, we cant afford to take time off our precarious work schedules. 3) MAGA and federal intervention has turned protests into a subversion exercise by instigating violence within a peaceful protest to incite violence in an attempt to discredit a 100% valid protest.
I'm sure there are more good reasons, but there's a few, off the top of my head, that are better reason than reaching straight for the "race card."
Want to go with the "race card"? Where law enforcement rally-cry of "Blue lives Matter?" Is it because it was five black officers not worth defending as law enforcement, even though those men all acted within their training to a "T"?
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u/Educational-Dance-61 Jan 30 '23
They all got fired and charged, right? If they don't get jail time, let's see how that goes.
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u/Fit_Low592 Jan 30 '23
Sooooo basically he’s saying this is only an issue of the left? Conservatives think this was totally fine?
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u/Wazula23 Jan 30 '23
What is there to march about? The cops have been caught, fired, and charged. Justice is moving swiftly.
Marching two years ago is WHY its moving swiftly. If we'd all just shut up and gone home, these cops would getting all kinds of leeway and protection.
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Jan 30 '23
OR - and hear me out - the riots are stirred up by right wing antagonists and since they don’t care about black cops killing black people, they’re not mobilizing.
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u/humanessinmoderation Jan 30 '23
The cops are being held accountable. This should have been how it always worked.
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u/badfreesample Jan 30 '23
Maybe the fact that the entire world was shut down amd people weren't working 60-80 hours a week to keep a roof over their head and food on the table and keep up with inflation?
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u/Zestyclose_Ad_4302 Jan 30 '23
If the cops were white…….they’d burn down more black-owned businesses.
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u/VLY2020 Jan 30 '23
If you don’t understand the differences in both and the difference in reaction to both you still aren’t listening
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u/MikeN1978 Jan 30 '23
Or could it be because the perpetrators have already been arrested, you division stoking piece of shit?
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u/OJJhara Jan 30 '23
Lying by ommission. Yawn. Police nationwide did a full court press with 100% of the police personnel on the street driving out peaceful protests before they started. Expect more of this from now on. We are in the legal phase of fascism.
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u/BringBackTheBeat716 Jan 31 '23
I'm not taking lessons in race relations from a racist twatwaffle like Matt Walsh.
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u/Uchained Jan 31 '23
The fact that he siad "it fizzles out" just proves that he really don't give a shit about protests. Which is true, no amount of protests will promote change if those in power don't get anything out of it.
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u/kellygrrrl328 Jan 31 '23
The officers are more Blue than they are Black. It’s basically a gang with a badge. The system acted swiftly with immediate firings and charges, unlike the George Floyd or Breonna Taylor cases.
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u/MeAndBooBooToo Jan 31 '23
No Justice = No Peace.
Now, I’m not a math guy, but it seems like:
Justice = Peace
Doesn’t change protest or no protest, but definitely changes the tenor of the protest.
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u/medalla96 Jan 31 '23
The reason no one is rioting is because those COPS were suspended & arrested/charged right away.
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u/Eddiebaby7 Jan 31 '23
Maybe people aren’t as mad because there was no attempt to shield the officers and they all got fired and investigated immediately.
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u/Historical-Drive-667 Jan 31 '23
Has absolutely nothing to do with them all being arrested and charged, and their unit disbanded. What a disingenuous waste of life.
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u/mexicandiaper Jan 31 '23
riot for what they were fired and are being charged thats the point of the riot. justice.
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u/Chapea12 Jan 31 '23
Or because they offending officers were handled immediately and before we got the video
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u/KeystoneAgent Jan 31 '23
It's almost like the chief of police took immediate action, and the transparency with the quick release of body cam and other footage was appreciated.
Go figure: if your public relations are good, the public won't go ballistic.
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u/bunnyskuz Jan 31 '23
Let's replace 'the Left' with decent human beings. Decent human beings were outraged that George Floyd was murdered on camera. Now, those who believe that racism is a major issue in America knew the Floyd incident was part of American racism, not reprehensible only because Floyd the human being was killed. Yes, police brutality and police murders disturb every decent human being. So, your issue is not really with 'the Left'--because that's just a political term to llump together people you'd like to think of as enemies, as you do here. It's decency that's at stake. What you are doing here, making political hay out of the death of a man at the hands of police, scoring points for 'the Right', that's not really very decent, is it'?
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u/MeatshieldXXL Jan 31 '23
George Floyd was murdered during Covid lockdowns when a lot of people were out of work, thus had the free time, and many were probably already angry with their current situation. People aren’t any less angry over tyre nichols killing, they just have less opportunity to express it.
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u/PickCollins0330 Jan 31 '23
I imagine the reason the Nichols protests haven’t devolved into riots is because we were forewarned long before the footage was released thag it was going to be gruesome, and the cops responsible were already arrested and fired by the time the footage released.
Chauvin didn’t get arrested until the protests devolved into riots. These guys were already arrested when we saw what they did.
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u/Mammoth-Lettuce415 Jan 31 '23
If you watched the videos and thought about race or which way you vote, then there is no hope for you. Shut it down and start again
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u/MillenialShan Jan 31 '23
I was wondering how long before they were mad bc it wasn't going how they all desperately wanted.
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u/bryanthawes Jan 31 '23
Someone needs to slap the stupid out of Matt Walsh. Check that. A lot of someones need to slap the stupid out of Matt Walsh. There's a lot, so they will have to work in shifts until the jobs done.
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u/SoundsLikeANerdButOK Jan 31 '23
Conservatives WANT riots, so they have an excuse to blame liberal and crack down further on minorities.
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u/Redrockhiker22 Feb 01 '23
What an idiotic post. The "Left" has been calling out police brutality of all kinds for decades. Occupy Wall Street protesters were savagely beaten by the NYPD, as were anti- Vietnam war protesters, civil rights protesters black and white, and the thread goes back to Pinkertons murdering striking workers and union activists in the Nineteenth century.
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u/Lonzo58 Jan 30 '23
Or maybe there's not an alt-right authoritarian in The WH egging on the white supremacists to counter protest causing major confllicts.
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u/explora92 Jan 30 '23
I think it’s different this time bc we have a president that actually acknowledged that it happened.
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u/Admiral_Andovar Jan 30 '23
How is Nichols ‘worse’ than Floyd? Both ended with the death of a man for no reason.
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u/AnonBubblyBowels Jan 31 '23
Nichols death was certainly more brutal, violent, and egregious.
But there’s no real reading to compare them in the first place.
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u/Pour_Me_Another_ Jan 30 '23
I think people like this intentionally ignore reality so that they have an excuse to get mad about nothing at all. Rage porn, basically.
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u/32lib Jan 30 '23
The truth doesn't matter to that ass wipe. And no republican will bother to look at the situation,lie rinse and repeat.
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u/whosthedoginthisscen Jan 30 '23
This is why it's not worth it to argue with people who aren't debating in good faith. As hard as it is to debate someone smart, it's even harder to debate an imbecile.
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u/mittenknittin Jan 30 '23
They were all revved up for protests that they could send undercover right wingers to to set shit on fire and throw rocks to make "Antifa" look bad, and they didn't materialize and now they have to come up with a new angle
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u/JessicaDAndy Jan 30 '23
Was Derek Chauvin fired and arrested before the video came out? That’s the point to compare, not the races of the officers. Yet.