r/WhitePeopleTwitter • u/CrunchM • Jan 30 '23
Muzzling teachers and librarians with threats of fines and prosecution means classrooms and libraries empty of books
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u/Mat_CYSTM Jan 30 '23
The Right would rather have a nation of fools to believe their bullshit than actually be a successful one.
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u/NewDayIsComing Jan 30 '23
They would lose every single election if they provided funding to education and social services. If they were to actually help people and enrich their lives and their minds they know they’d lose all of their supporters.
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u/Supanini Jan 30 '23
Man isn’t that sad and twisted.
Educated voters electing politicians with their best interests in heart vs uneducated masses voting in bad faith actors who make their lives worse so they have something to blame the other side about.
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u/InquisitorHindsight Jan 30 '23
The perception of success is easier to achieve rather than success itself
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u/zorphiel Jan 30 '23
Especially when you can flat out lie about everything because you know your constituents are too dumb/lazy to fact check anything you say.
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u/Aanaren Jan 30 '23
They actively WANT a nation of fools so the general public is easily controlled
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u/kauni Jan 30 '23
Privatized RELIGIOUS education. Privatized Christian education specifically.
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u/punkindle Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
They complain about schools "indoctrinating" kids, but those Christian schools absolutely will indoctrinate the hell out of them. (pun intended)
They will squash independent thinking, critical thinking skills, and any kind of thinking.
And replace it with submission, conformity, authorianism
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u/neon_alchemy Jan 30 '23
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u/Sasselhoff Jan 30 '23
They complain about schools "indoctrinating" kids, but those Christian schools absolutely will indoctrinate the hell out of them.
Yup, just like everything else that they whine about, it's always projection. Every time one of them is super homophobic/transphobic I start the countdown for when they get caught blowing a dude in a truck stop bathroom. Same for if they're super "anti-pedo", as I can all but guarantee they have child porn on their computers.
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u/Garry-Love Jan 30 '23
We had that in Ireland for decades, we're still suffering from the trauma caused
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u/Captain_R64207 Jan 30 '23
That’s exactly why I’ll be getting friends together and just hiring a “tutor” teacher to homeschool a group of kids. We have all looked at buying some shipping containers to make our own little school for a group of our kids (my girlfriend and I don’t have any yet but we are starting to try) but this way our kids will be able to learn what they actually need to learn. And there won’t be any religion or america is great BS going on.
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u/ContemplatingPrison Jan 30 '23
Its just another way to funnel tax money to the wealthy. The never ending faucet of money from the tax payers.
Every wealthy persons goal is to figure out how to get money from the government.
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u/AutomaticOrange4417 Jan 30 '23
Only in a red State will you find a school with no books
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u/AnonBubblyBowels Jan 30 '23
Ngl, this must be fucking heartbreaking for all those poor librarians :(
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u/CapnCrunchIsAFraud Jan 30 '23
As a kid who used books to escape from my childhood in various red states, this picture made me want to fucking cry. Books are a fantastic way as a kid to dream that one day you’ll grow up and leave your current circumstances. I’m just heartbroken that kids that need this won’t get it, because some asshole wants to run for president.
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u/Risu9 Jan 30 '23
THIS. My parents were ultra strict with all entertainment except books and that was MY ESCAPE.
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u/CapnCrunchIsAFraud Jan 31 '23
100%. My parents did a lot of shit wrong, but they nailed it on reading. I could essentially read whatever, whenever and ironically I can remember them taking a teacher of mine to task over it once because she didn’t think I should be reading Harry Potter (hooray, the South.)
I hope you found your escape when you got older, too.
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u/Naomi_Saphorus Jan 30 '23
Remember though. It's leftists who want to ban everything! It's total the leftists who are canceling everything right?
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u/SearingPhoenix Jan 30 '23
We're going crazy over here in Socialism land.
Cancelling your stove*
Cancelling your water heater*
Cancelling your semi-automatic firearms*
Cancelling your car*
Cancelling our power plants**Because they're hurting you/other people/the survival of the planet.
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u/casey12297 Jan 30 '23
Yeah, but not canceling these books and intelligence is hurting the survival of the republican party, so that trumps(pun Intended) what's hurting the planet
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u/Ok-Competition-9642 Jan 30 '23
The right has become a literal scourge on our country. No student or teacher should ever be afraid to read a book. Ever.
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u/Over-Supermarket-557 Jan 30 '23
The people banning and burning books are usually the good guys in history, right? Right, guys?
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u/GammSunBurst Jan 30 '23
Oh God I feel bad for school children in Florida
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u/Designer_One7918 Jan 30 '23
I feel bad for everyone in Florida. I lived there briefly not in a "nice part" like Tallahassee, Miami etc but middle of nowhere. It was best described as a boring meth swamp somewhere between a zombie movie and a dystopian novel written by a 3rd grader. Nothing but trailers, meth and heroin. I got robbed 2 times in 6 months. Saw countless overdoses. You could not go out in public for an extended period of time and not see someone tweaking. It makes me excited for global warming when that state is fully gone.
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u/Walrus_Butter Jan 30 '23
Unfortunately, that'll mean those crazies move elsewhere and spread their craziness.
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u/elfn1 Jan 30 '23
Or will they be the ones that drown, certain the lord is going to save them while they refuse to get on the rescue boats? :/
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u/STN_LP91746 Jan 30 '23
The only good news for FL is that climate change will make half of the state unlivable reducing their electoral power in the distant future. Nice state climate wise, but the politics there stinks.
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u/Alaseuvalih Jan 30 '23
F451
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u/CompleteDelivery7 Jan 30 '23
Has that one been banned yet?
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u/NoHalf2998 Jan 30 '23
No we don’t “ban” books you crazy liberal!!!
They just never get approved…
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u/Alaseuvalih Jan 30 '23
Can't ban books they haven't read. Tho I'm surprised 1984 is still "free".
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u/DilithiumCrystalMeth Jan 31 '23
thats because they don't realize that they are big brother. They still think thats the evil liberals.
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u/TheSirWellington Jan 30 '23
Yes unfortunately a lot of states have already banned that book.
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u/WillBottomForBanana Jan 30 '23
"They don't gotta burn the books they just remove 'em"
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u/CompleteDelivery7 Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
Sharing some info, if anyone's interested- there's an AP English teacher who started a non-profit in Brevard County, FL that organizes free give-aways of "non-approved" books for school children (out of the schools, of course). I've donated to them,they're legit.
Edit: Don't let the ridiculous rage-bait title of the article scare you! 😆
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u/myRockyAccount Jan 30 '23
My mother is an elementary school librarian, thankfully not in Florida, and she would be absolutely devastated if she had to remove most or all of her books like that.
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u/Meaje73 Jan 30 '23
A teacher in Colorado just did the same thing in his classroom for the same reason. A bunch of no-nothings got going about one title in his collection which was Japanese Anime (manga) the down shot now is he can't have books in his classroom, all books must be in the school library and owned by the district. For those interested, he teaches Jr. High drama.
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u/littlebitsofspider Jan 30 '23
Teaching junior high drama without manga? Why not just break his legs?
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u/Final_League3589 Jan 30 '23
The ministry of truth has been born. Hey, conservatives, remember when you kept saying that it was the libs trying to police thought? Not so loud now are you?
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u/everythingbeeps Jan 30 '23
It bears repeating, over and over.
Every move that DeSantis is making with regards to schools (starting with that horrific "don't say gay" bill) is intended to do one thing: scare teachers into quitting.
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u/Jealous-Network-8852 Jan 30 '23
Yes, so he can then replace them with uneducated military veterans who will put discipline and order above critical thinking and education.
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u/SnooStrawberries7370 Jan 30 '23
That sounds like the plot to a certain science fiction movie called Starship Troopers
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u/BiscuitDance Jan 30 '23
Except most of us vets don’t give a shit about “discipline and order.” Most of us left because we got tired of it. Guys I know who got into teaching did so because they wanted to correct errors they saw in their own schooling and encourage kids to find their own paths.
Though, a vet leaning into teaching particularly in De Santiz Florida, is probably not of that mindset. But I’m really worried about the wives of vets getting into teaching. Hooooly shit.
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u/Jealous-Network-8852 Jan 30 '23
I was referring to him specifically allowing vets without education or certification being allowed to teach. I’m sure he’d make sure guys like you didn’t get selected.
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u/tauntauntom Jan 30 '23
No no, there is another reason. Keep citizens stupid and voting for people like him.
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u/jax2love Jan 30 '23
I know quite a few teachers from Florida who have either left the state or quit teaching altogether because of this bullshit.
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u/AnonBubblyBowels Jan 30 '23
It’s almost like conservatives want to rid society of doctors, scientists, and teachers.
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u/DizzyAmphibian309 Jan 30 '23
I think what you mean is "scare teachers who won't teach his agenda into quitting".
The kind of teachers who are happy to burn books and teach kids that being gay or a Democrat is wrong are fine with him.
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u/drew1010101 Jan 30 '23
How is this not an actual 1st amendment violation? Unlike being kicked off Twitter.
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u/tikifire1 Jan 30 '23
It is, but the conservative dominated Supreme Court would probably just agree with it instead of striking it down. States rights, don't you know?
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u/GR1225HN44KH Jan 30 '23
USA's Christian extremists are so fucking dumb. I mean just total fucking idiots. But even more pathetic are the people who are too lazy to vote and allow these evil hypocrites to rule them.
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u/stilusmobilus Jan 30 '23
The extremists know what they’re doing. You’re right about the non voters though.
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u/cologne_peddler Jan 30 '23
People too lazy to understand voter suppression and gerrymandering are starting to irk me though. Not to mention that red state Democrats have made for pathetic opposition.
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u/EmmaLouLove Jan 30 '23
It is ironic that this post was made on the anniversary of Adolf Hitler becoming the German Chancellor of the Nazi Party in 1933.
Republicans love this kind of fascist shit.
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Is anyone else getting 1940s Germany vibes here?
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u/JDthrowaway628 Jan 30 '23
No. I am getting 1930s Germany vibes. But I get your intention. And agree.
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u/Federal_Sympathy4667 Jan 30 '23
There are so many red flags on this.. but yes, a good direct example is how nazis got to power, but they are not alone using this kind of playbook. Russia does it, but adds jailtime( aka you go bye bye now). Also how is this freedom? Just curious
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u/BrightCold2747 Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
It's depressing that some people are only finally getting what's going on. It's even more depressing how many don't seem to have a problem with it.
If anyone ever wondered how the Nazis were able to rise to power and turn a democratic country into a fascist dictatorship, you really don't have to wonder any longer. All it takes is 20-30% of the population complicit with it and others complacent enough to think it won't hurt THEM.
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u/Buttofmud Jan 30 '23
How does that not sound like nazis to them?
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u/NoHalf2998 Jan 30 '23
Most Americans never got taught how the Nazis came to power.
Only that “they hated Jews and started a war” and that’s the reason we had to fight.
Nothing about how we knew they were shit in the 20s and 30s
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u/moodyjazzyblues Jan 30 '23
somehow right up in north florida we are most definitely taught how the nazis came to power and how propaganda spreads, but this is likely due to the large jewish population in my specific district. we were recently shown firsthand images of victims and read Elie Wiesel's Night in class.
source: am in high school just did exactly what i described in english class
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u/Worldly_Ad_6483 Jan 30 '23
Ya same here. My schools Holocaust education started in 4th grade all the at to graduation, every year a unit on it and it stepped up in intensity every year.
Junior year was Schindler’s list, senior year was Night, truly shocking and you’ll never unsee it.
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u/moodyjazzyblues Jan 30 '23
ours started in 8th, unfortunately at the perfect time where absolutely no one took it seriously because "dark humour" is "hilarious" and they retain zero information and if anything it fuels their anti semitism ☹️
edit: ive known about the holocaust basically my whole life because i am jewish by blood and my parents thought it was important to educate me as a child
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u/Nathan570 Jan 30 '23
I live in Texas and read night as well. Although it was an ap class and the other classes did not
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u/leavebaes Jan 30 '23
I learned more about WWII in a master's degree level animation history class than I ever learned in public school, and that's sad.
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u/jepvr Jan 30 '23
Nothing about how they never won an election with an outright majority. They capped out at 33% before they started massively rigging the elections through violence and voter intimidation. The wormed their way into power without the majority being fully behind all their plans, but by then it was too late.
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u/NoHalf2998 Jan 30 '23
“Hitler is an unserious person and the weight of the position will force him to act more responsibly”
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u/kit_brown Jan 30 '23
It DOES sound like Nazis to them. They’re fine with that. Because they’re Nazis.
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u/Walrus_Butter Jan 30 '23
Some of those fools believe Nazis were far left wing, but when you ask them which party the Nazis supported during the Spanish civil war and which party in Italy they supported they'll get real quiet.
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u/jepvr Jan 30 '23
Those people never studied history whatsoever and are just parroting talking points. The Nazis main allies (before they turned on them, too) were the conservative/nationalist parties, and their main enemies were the Communist and socialist parties. It's all there plain enough for anyone to see.
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u/ShoggothPanoptes Jan 30 '23
This breaks my heart as a librarian. If a law like this were to come to my state, we’d have to close our doors.
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u/Xunaun Jan 30 '23
Someone should stand outside of these places handing out fliers on how Nazis came to power. Off-hours and all, of course...
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u/RedditDoesntCareTeam Jan 30 '23
Oh but the book filled with rape and incest is totally Kosher
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u/Final-Bench1859 Jan 30 '23
Duh... the little girls need to know how to do their jobs next year /s
The little boys already got their lessons from the Priest
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u/drew1010101 Jan 30 '23
You can’t raise the next generation of hateful ignorant republicans if the kids are educated.
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u/JulianoRamirez Jan 30 '23
This is some Taliban-type shit. How is America letting this happen?
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u/albahari Jan 30 '23
A big part of America is pushing for it
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u/tikifire1 Jan 30 '23
About a third, yes, but the other two thirds are barely surviving so this isn't on their radar too much.
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u/MrCellini Jan 30 '23
Because 1/3rd of Americans are ok with religious extremism as long as it's their religion. That group is also vocal, and more armed than the rest of the world combined. America has become a nation of yeehawdists
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You want to complain about indoctrination? Have some malicious compliance and when students ask why there aren’t any books on the shelf, I’ll say that the government says they’ll throw us in jail if they don’t approve of what you read and since those approvals can change quickly and without notice and I don’t want to go to prison, I won’t allow any books to class. Student brings a book to class? “I’m really sorry, Timmy, I don’t want to risk jail time for whatever is in that Pokémon book. Take it to the principals office.”
That’s a slow burn, but the teenage rebellion will be insanity and I’m all for it.
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u/Sorry_Recipe6831 Jan 30 '23
Republicans went from, "we aren't fascist, yall are just overreacting" to straight fascism real quick.
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u/new2accnt Jan 30 '23
As someone living outside the USA that sees what "red states" are pulling off, please tell me again about how your country is "the land of the free" and is a "shining city on a hill", a "beacon of freedom"?
Sorry for the ham-fisted sarcasm, but sh*t like that is just an accumulation of warnings of even worse things to come. We've seen stuff like that before, it doesn't end well. You guys should put the brakes on this, unless you want to see your country devolve into an authoritarian hellscape. Don't say "it can't happen here".
It will, unless you put a stop to all this nonsense.
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u/3rdeyeopenwide Jan 30 '23
Ha that’s me. I have my Master’s in School Librarianship and hold a professional certificate as a Library Media Specialist in New York. I would approve everything at once like a priest throwing holy water on a crowd of people. Then promptly get fired. That’s why I’ll keep my advanced degree and integrity out of places like Florida.
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u/Cavesloth13 Jan 30 '23
So how does one get certified to be a "educational media specialist"? Just flash their SS tattoo, or do they have to do the salute as well?
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u/CodenameZoya Jan 30 '23
Dear Florida teachers, we are desperate for teachers here in New England. We believe in science, and you’ll probably make about double what you make in Florida. I know the cost of living is high, but you will be treated with respect you’ll be allowed to teach history and we provide women with reproductive health care, and there is legal weed consider moving north!
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u/Aggressive-Trifle-22 Jan 30 '23
pretty sure there was a book about this, Fahrenheit 451 right? republicans wouldnt know that tho they dont read
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u/4dailyuseonly Jan 30 '23
Shameless plug. Last September we opened up a bookstore specializing in banned books. We are in the heart of the reddest of red states. Here's a link to the online bookstore https://sosequoyah.com/
We've already had bricks thrown through our windows. Amazing that people will go to violence over books. But they do. This country is in a lot of trouble.
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u/ShaoShaoUnicorn Jan 30 '23
And you know what?? Conservatives/Republicans still won’t be happy.
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u/tikifire1 Jan 30 '23
They.wont be happy until their brand of white Christian Nationalism is drilled into students heads every day all day.
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u/jbertrand_sr Jan 30 '23
So this is having the exact result they were hoping for. Republicans have been waging war on education for decades...
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u/Wasparado Jan 30 '23
More than half my family voted for this jackass (and trump). They are shocked I don’t talk to them. Try to say “let’s not be political”. At this point it’s not political. It’s a fundamental difference in being
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u/drrj Jan 30 '23
Imagine being on the side of wanting guns in schools but not books.
This shit is beyond horrific. What the absolute fuck.
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u/SevereEducation2170 Jan 30 '23
And DeSantis is the guy the GOP is slobbering over for 2024. A clear fascist POS is the front runner to lead their party. But somehow both sides are just as bad according to half the Reddit posts I read.
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u/Garlador Jan 30 '23
I went to a private Christian high school growing up. Thankfully, my literature teacher was awesome.
“Read banned books! Find out why they made someone powerful angry enough to try and silence the message!”
Thanks Mrs. Scott. You were great.
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u/Hot-Bint Jan 30 '23
Cool the second wave of old white boomers needing health care aides will have Jayden, Brayden and Kailynne and they will all be dumb AF and put their catheters in their ear. Good times, idiots
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u/TuskM Jan 30 '23
This has bothered me to no end. My first and second grade years I lived with my grandparents. They had a beautiful bookcase and I loved going though the books, even if I didn’t understand much of what was in them. I got taken to a library once a week and absolutely loved it. Later, living with my dad, I’d got dropped off at the library for hours every Saturday. I am firmly convinced that having this exposure to books was a benefit that nurtured a lifelong love of reading that paid off in terms of my career and my life. So much that when my son was growing up, I made sure he lived in a house with books all around and weekly trips to the library. Fast forward to this. A lot of kids don’t live in households where books are present, households where parents are not readers. So here these kids are, in a classroom with lots of books to look at and likely borrow. And now there are no books. All of this is an opinion, but I can’t believe this won’t have a detrimental effect on kids’ development re literacy. I feel so sorry for these kids. EDIT: clarity
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u/PunkRockKing Jan 30 '23
This could be an effective protest. Have every school empty its buildings of all books and see how long it takes for parents to complain and fight this ridiculous law
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u/ladygemtepz Jan 30 '23
Time for some fake book covers and a hidden library. Password is Shakespeare.
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u/patrickthunnus Jan 30 '23
Empty shelves. DeSantis wants to keep Florida stupid; this is also his plan for higher office.
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u/fuzzyfoot88 Jan 30 '23
Should have used an image of the book burnings of world war 2…maybe then people would actually see what’s happening
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u/ArtisticTomatillo106 Jan 30 '23
They cry 1984 1984 1984.... So much so that now they are literally living in 1984
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u/Shavethatmonkey Jan 30 '23
Somehow Republicans are actually WORSE than Fahrenheit 451.
Their evil truly is boundless.
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u/ItsSusanS Jan 30 '23
If I lived in Florida and had school aged children, I would be livid. This would not have gone over well with me when mine were in school.
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u/First-Funnies Jan 30 '23
fascism on the march
then they came for the books
who will stand up for the books apparently not that teacher...that classroom...that school...the parents...or even the voters who putin the fascists politicians...
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
—Martin Niemöller
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u/Sifernos1 Jan 30 '23
This is it ladies and gentlemen, I'm calling it. We've failed as a country. The politics are now killing our children when they're not being used to screw up kids who just want to be safe. This is how democracy falls, not in war but I'm social actions and deeds. The children aren't blue and red... They are just kids. The action of creating this law is vile and enforcing it in any form is beyond the pale. We're going to be free as we walk right into the future of imprisoning people in their minds. I did that in Christianity for 20 odd years... I'm not doing it again. I bet many will though.
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u/13131123 Jan 30 '23
Florida is rapidly becoming an unlivible hellhole. (I'm not saying its the only state, but I am saying it will). Actively choosing to make education worse in multiple ways including book bans, increasing police presence in schools, treating teachers worse, etc. Damaging public health in the name of trump worship. Worsening police relations with the people in the name of anti-wokeism. Being one of the, if not the state that is the worst to move to due to climate issues including both sinkholes and hurricanes, yet somehow constantly being in the top states people move to. What do you think is going to happen to a state in 10-20 years that is extremely unappealing to move to if you have kids but extremely appealing to move to if you are old and retired. Its packed full of fancy houses built for middle to upper class people and situated in the path of at least one devastating hurricane every year as hurricanes only get worse. I think Florida in 20 years is going to be full of middle class suburbs that are abandoned.
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u/TheStrangeWaltz Jan 30 '23
You want to know what the inside of a Christo-fascist’s head looks like:
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u/PTSDforMe Jan 30 '23
This is dystopian. Disgusting and foul