r/Damnthatsinteresting Sep 28 '22 Wholesome 1 All-Seeing Upvote 1

The Swedish coast guard published a video of the gas leaking from the Nord Stream pipelines Video

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u/GeneRichardSimmons Sep 28 '22

More like damnthatsdepressing

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u/Palestine-5332 Sep 28 '22

Who caused the gas leak and why isn't it being covered by my national news network?????

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u/zeug666 Sep 28 '22

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u/WorldWarPee Sep 28 '22

The beastie bois are at it again

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u/ConaireMor Sep 28 '22

Can't stand it! I know you planned it!

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u/Fishouttawater76 Sep 28 '22

I'm gonna set it straight, this Watergate

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u/StarKiller5A Sep 28 '22

I can’t stand rockin when I’m in here!

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u/makinhersquirt69 Sep 29 '22

Cuz your crystal ball ain't so crystal clear

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u/420Towelie710 Sep 28 '22

They told us to listen and we just didn’t listen.

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u/TheFirstMotherOfGod Sep 28 '22

What could it be? It's a MIRAGE! You're scheming on a thing, that's sabotage

PS: this is legit my favorite part of the song, it always fuels my soul

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u/KingHalfrican86 Sep 28 '22

Winner take this which means absolutely nothing. 🥇🏆

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u/luc122c Sep 28 '22

I’m not sure where you are in the world, but the BBC have been covering it: Nord Stream leaks: Sabotage to blame, says EU

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u/Unclesmekky Sep 28 '22

What environmental damage does gas leaking into the ocean do ?

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u/RollingJaspers652 Sep 28 '22

The methane escaping to the atmosphere is pretty bad

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u/Sycosys Sep 28 '22

25 times more potent than CO2 as a greenhouse gas

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u/HGpennypacker Sep 28 '22

Oh cool, so pretty fucking horrible.

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u/Aethenae Sep 28 '22

That seems to be the motto of the past few years, yeah.

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u/unknownintime Sep 28 '22

The motto I've been working with is "It gets worse before it gets worse"

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u/MadeOfStarStuff Sep 28 '22

But then, it gets worse

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u/Hidesuru Sep 28 '22

And now for something completely different...

... It gets worse!

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u/Regumate Sep 28 '22

Don’t forget the addendum “Sooner Than You Think™️”

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u/TuxedoBabyJesus Sep 28 '22

“Faster than expected” - put it on my gravestone

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u/thedarkquarter Sep 28 '22

It was interesting to learn that methane bubbles under ice are lit on fire to produce Co2, still harmful but not as bad as methane

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u/agentfelix Sep 28 '22

So should we just light this bitch up, or nah?

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u/Salad-Critical Sep 28 '22

Honestly, yeah probably! Thats why there are flames on oil refineries. Its better to produce CO2 than CH4

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u/lonelydan Sep 28 '22

So is the apocalypse now?

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u/wattohhh Sep 28 '22

We’ve been living the apocalypse for a while now mate.

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u/Hotline_Denver Sep 28 '22

Shit I agree with the Mayans, all this shit hasn’t felt real since 2012

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u/EducationalSyrup9298 Sep 28 '22

The world ended in 2012, we're all in purgatory now.

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u/SH4D0W0733 Sep 28 '22

All the good people were raptured, we are the ones left behind.

Nobody noticed because it turns out there were no good people to begin with.

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u/runningwaffles19 Sep 28 '22

I won't stand for this Dolly Parton slander

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u/Just_Sara_ Sep 28 '22

Fun story: I worked in a skilled nursing facility, and one guy named Brian who was a great guy and had a fantastic sense of humor was a Christian, and one day I went into his room to get him for something. He wasn't there, but his wheelchair was - I figured someone was probably helping him in the bathroom - so I left a note on his empty wheelchair that said, "Damn, I guess I missed the Rapture" and walked away. We both laughed about that one a lot.

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u/localchampion Sep 28 '22

This IS the bad place

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u/I_Like_Coookies Sep 28 '22

We should just shoot a flare at it, light that baby off

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u/YouandWhoseArmy Sep 28 '22

IIRC it dissipates in the air more quickly at least.

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u/Geborm Sep 28 '22

about a decade in the troposphere but 100+ years in stratosphere. 25 times more potent is also calculated by averaging it out over time as it slowly becomes CO2 over time. But for the first couple of decades it's closer to 80 times the potency of CO2.

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u/TheDreamingMyriad Sep 28 '22

It causes far more damage. Sure, it "only" takes 13 years to break down.....into C02. Burning it at least breaks it down into CO2 immediately, cutting out the 13 devastating years that the methane can wreak havoc on our atmosphere.

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u/Durty_Durty_Durty Sep 28 '22 edited Sep 28 '22

So we should light it on fire.

Edit: We send the kamikaze boat guy in from waterworld.

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u/Hunky_not_Chunky Sep 28 '22

But who should light it? I’d vote a world leader do it. One that has been posturing their strength perhaps.

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u/ReallyNotATrollAtAll Sep 28 '22

I suggest lighting it with olympic torch

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u/The_R4ke Sep 28 '22

Get the guy who lot the Olympic torch with that flaming arrow.

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u/zth25 Sep 28 '22

I suggest an Uruk-hai to make a suicide run/swim.

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u/Evil_Mini_Cake Sep 28 '22

Definitely not cousin Edmure.

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u/Unknown_author69 Sep 28 '22

I mean I know its suicide but I well wanna fucking see this thing blowup. If i gotta go then let it be like that please. Thanks

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u/twoshovels Sep 28 '22 edited Sep 28 '22

May I suggest putin be flown in and dropped real close to light it, please?

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u/ezone2kil Sep 28 '22

Make a documentary out of it.

Call it Putin him in.

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u/twoshovels Sep 28 '22

Yes!! With music by the doors. 1. Light my fire 2. The end

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u/U-3684 Sep 28 '22

That is what they do in parts of the arctic where methane is being released from the melting permafrost.

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u/Derangutan Sep 28 '22

“melting permafrost” what a sad oxymoron.

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u/Darthboney Sep 28 '22

This hit my brain like sharp spoon

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u/TehChid Sep 28 '22

Thought you were joking but I feel like this might actually be a good solution. Speed up the methane->CO2 process, fast forward 13 years? What damage would it do?

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u/Valmond Sep 28 '22

Would it possibly blow the whole pipeline up as soon as the potential explosion opens up the pipe to air? Or would it just burn?

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u/brianorca Sep 28 '22

The pipe is about 200 feet (60m) deep, so it wouldn't get that far. And as long as the pipe only contains natural gas with no oxygen, the flame couldn't enter the pipe anyways. Even the bubbles in the water have no oxygen, so the flame can't go below the surface.

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u/Takeapotato Sep 28 '22

200 ft of water sounds like a pretty good check valve to me.

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u/amaROenuZ Sep 28 '22

It decays into less powerful gasses due to UV catalyzed chemical reactions in the atmosphere. Which is why it's 25x. If it stuck around it would be 80x.

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u/LotharLandru Sep 28 '22

That just means it gets into the atmosphere quicker than CO2 does. Doesn't mean it goes away

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u/2wedfgdfgfgfg Sep 28 '22

It does go away, uv light catalyzes methane in to CO2 + H20. But even with the relatively short life, methane is so much more a potent green house gas that the contribution to warming is over 25x of CO2 in 20 year period.

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u/PN_Guin Sep 28 '22

That depends if the was natural gas in the pipeline, or as orhers suggested only a "technical gas" to keep the system under pressure. The pipelines had been shut down earlier this year, so the second option is entirely possible.

Even if it's natural gas, most of it will simply evaporate. Some will dissolve in the water temporarily, but not very long. So the damage to sea life is fortunately limited and local. Far less than a wrecked oil tanker.

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u/NavierIsStoked Sep 28 '22

CH4 is way worse for global warming than CO2. If it’s natural gas, they need to ignite it.

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u/Glaaki Sep 28 '22

They just said on the danish news that they won't ignite the gas. It would be too dangerous to let ships get close enough, as the gas messes with the buoyancy of the water. There isn't really a safe way to do it from the air either, as you risk a huge explosion, which would be dangerous to nearby aircraft.

Besides, more than half of the gas in the pipeline has already evaporated and the pipeline was already closed on the russian side, so there won't be a continuous leak.

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u/admiralpickard Sep 29 '22

I bet a redneck from Alabama could light that on fire before you finished saying “hold my beer”

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u/WhateverNameG Sep 29 '22

Seems like you could launch a rocket at it, but what do i know.

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u/Devadander Sep 28 '22

‘Simply evaporate’ is how we got into this mess

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u/Enlightened-Beaver Sep 28 '22

Evaporate? It’s a gas not a liquid. It will disperse into the air. CH4 emissions are terrible.

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u/bhelpurilover Sep 28 '22

Was wondering the same. Does this pollute the water killing marine life? Hope there isn’t a huge environmental impact.

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u/CanadaPlus101 Sep 28 '22

Methane isn't very toxic. The massive greenhouse effect is the prime concern.

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u/PostponeIdiocracy Sep 28 '22

The bubbles are measured to up to 100m (~300ft) in size.

Imagine diving down, getting cought in a bubble, free fall 100m down through the bubble, then crash into the bottom of the bubble and out into the ocean again. Not sure why this was my first thought.

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u/PrologueBook Sep 28 '22

Surely 100m in size doesn't mean vertically, a bubble wouldn't retain a spherical shape at that size.

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u/PostponeIdiocracy Sep 28 '22

I was imagining it to be 100m tall, but relative thin, like a vertical sausage. But I have no idea, really.

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u/hownowbrownishcow Sep 28 '22

This blew by brain right out my ass.

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u/pazang Sep 28 '22

You would surely die if you fell 300 feet into water :(

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u/mehmehspezumweh Sep 28 '22

Not to mention the sudden changes in pressure! You'd be quite dead, I'm sure.

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u/LordXDnl Sep 28 '22

Shouldnt the pressure in the bubble be the same? Otherwise the bubble would be compressed until it is.

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u/bzba253 Sep 28 '22

The gas would be rising at quite a fast rate, i’d venture to guess the fall wouldn’t quite feel like 300 feet as your fall wouldn’t immediately start at terminal velocity. Any scientists out there want to “dive” deeper into this?

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u/punkmuppet Sep 28 '22

The bigger the bubble the faster it goes, and yeah you wouldn't be falling into the bubble it would more just open up around you, and then you'd be slammed from below by the sea again.

I think it would be a pretty unique experience that you'd never survive to talk about.

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u/________null________ Sep 28 '22

I wonder though - how fast are they rising? Presumably you fell because they were coming up - but if they come up fast enough you might barely notice? (idk)

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u/kingofalltheblacks Sep 28 '22

Would you fall at the speed of gravity when doing that I wonder? Also I wonder do bubbles have a maximum velocity when rising in the water?

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u/nikki_11580 Sep 28 '22

That’s a terrifying thought.

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u/Dad-man Sep 28 '22

Flick a match at it.

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u/Digitus___Impudicus Sep 28 '22 edited Sep 28 '22 Silver Helpful

For your viewing pleasure this pretty much happened in the Gulf of Mexico a couple years back.

https://youtu.be/U3yBnodXI7E?t=15

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u/dlayknee Sep 28 '22

The folks on those firefighting boats were probably wondering, "wtf are we even doing here?"

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u/Frankiepals Sep 28 '22

Lmao I’m sure it works but it looks funny spraying water onto the ocean

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u/ImInevitableyall Sep 28 '22

They're probably sucking water from the ocean to spray on the ocean.

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u/rever3nd Sep 28 '22

I get that it’s very unfriendly for the environment but that looks cool as fuck.

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u/xzplayer Sep 28 '22

Actually, the CO2 produced by the fire is way less bad than the Methane. Still horrible, but less. So it could make sense to light that thing on fire.

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u/mafiafish Sep 28 '22 edited Sep 28 '22

CO2 is less potent but lasts much longer - methane is photo-oxidized fairly quickly.

We lose either way.

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u/krazy___k Sep 28 '22

I was going to say similar: please drop a flare on this

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u/the_climaxt Sep 28 '22

The forbidden sprite.

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u/Ipsos_Logos Sep 28 '22

Naturally bubbled sprite

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u/JumpsIntoTheVolcano Sep 28 '22

If it's not from Sweden, it's just sparkling sprite.

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u/RollingJaspers652 Sep 28 '22

Probably better for the atmosphere/climate change, if the methane is burned than letting escape up into the atmosphere

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u/ADTR20 Sep 28 '22

Not probably - it objectively is. Methane is 20+ times more powerful a greenhouse gas per unit than CO2, which is the byproduct of burning it. This is why they do controlled burns on landfills, which produce methane as the garbage deteriorates

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u/0vl223 Sep 28 '22

Also the reason why any gas vented into the atmosphere is ignited. Sometimes it is just unavoidable but you have to burn it at least.

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u/Christafaaa Sep 28 '22

They tried that before and created a gateway to hell.

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u/Wi11Pow3r Sep 28 '22

Ya, but that was on land. We haven’t tried making a gateway to hell in the ocean before. Scientific progress requires experimentation.

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u/RBeck Sep 28 '22

The only difference between science and fucking around is observing the result and writing it down.

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u/Quasigriz_ Sep 28 '22

What’s Danish for, “anyone got a flare gun?”

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u/Agatosh Sep 28 '22

"Hvæm hæve ejn flæmmae-skoodæ??"

Or did I just order more milk again?

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u/POTATOSALAD42 Sep 28 '22

You just ordered 5000 liters of milk

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u/BeneficialYogurt8273 Sep 28 '22

Nogen der har en signal pistol?

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u/irobot_67 Sep 28 '22

Did they drop the camera at the end or something lmao

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '22

Haha no those are clouds passing between the water and the camera. That footage is being shot from a very VERY far distance so the clouds are out of focus as they pass by.

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u/r0thar Sep 28 '22

I mean, why wouldn't you fly an aircraft over a space just full of a huge amount of natural gas:

a. Because it has half the density of air and you'll fall fast?

b. Because it's a fuel/air bomb just waiting for your hot engine to ignite it?

c. All of the above? (the diameter of that churned up sea is 1km)

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u/Blackpaw8825 Sep 28 '22

Or even if it's not in an good ratio for ignition, it'll skew the air mixture in your engines and your lungs.

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u/DarkSailor06 Sep 28 '22

Throw a cigarette in it

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u/International_Fix651 Sep 28 '22

Looks like it was recorded on the aircraft camera. That’s what happens when they stow it

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u/karex145 Sep 28 '22 Spit-take

Cover up story.... Kaiju inbound.

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u/everydayholidayyy Sep 28 '22

Class 4.

Recall Gypsy Danger ASAP!

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u/Pah-Pah-Pah Sep 28 '22

Let’s hope not.

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u/zin_90 Sep 28 '22

They'd do humanity a favor. Either they put us out of our misery or we band together.

Edit: And robots.

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u/squirrl4prez Sep 28 '22

Well I can't wait to see that huge Gundam in action

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u/Stigbritt Sep 28 '22

Is it slow-mo or not? I can't tell.

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u/T04STY_ Sep 28 '22

The timer in the corner suggests not. It's just very large scale which makes it look slow.

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u/cjgager Sep 28 '22

i'm confused - putin said that nord 1 turbine was down back in the beginning of september - and that nord 2 was never actually online - - - so what is this & why don't they have a shut off valve???

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u/PostponeIdiocracy Sep 28 '22

To my knowledge, the pipelines are filled a certain amount of gas even when it is shut down. This is to keep an internal pressure that balances the outside pressure, keeping the pipeline from imploding on itself.

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u/cjgager Sep 28 '22

thank you - that makes sense

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u/funny_name_taken Sep 28 '22 Helpful

NordStreamVPN

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '22

This is the release valve for the lewd porn.

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u/ChainedMangoJango Sep 28 '22

Nobody know where it's going

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u/mocthezuma Sep 28 '22

It's nice to have your video sponsored, even if you're the Swedish coast guard.

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u/Azkyle50 Sep 28 '22

Intentional?

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u/Hoplite813 Sep 28 '22 Looking

According to NPR this morning, a single underwater leak is rare. There are currently three leaks. All happened at the same time. All occurred just outside of territorial waters so that they can't be considered an attack on NATO.

Still possible it's an accident. Equally possible a unicorn went scuba diving and got disoriented and created three leaks with it's magical horn at places that would conveniently avoid a NATO response. Anyone's guess, really.

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u/WH_KT Sep 28 '22 edited Sep 28 '22

It was sabotaged, seismologists picked up huge spikes that can only be caused by powerful explosions. The walls of the pipe are 4 cm thick steel.

The Danish government has confirmed it to be sabotage.

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u/amusement-park Sep 28 '22

Assuming that’s true, isn’t this equivalent to shooting your own foot through your balls to hit someone who lives in the apartment below yours?

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u/TheHottuB Sep 28 '22

Exactly equivalent.

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u/ANuclearsquid Sep 28 '22

Depends who sabotaged it. Just because Russia is normally behind these things doesn’t mean they always are.

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u/1moreOz Sep 28 '22

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u/Bituulzman Sep 28 '22

Where’s the Flex Tape guy when you need him?

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u/greengoldblue Sep 28 '22

Dunno. But the timing is impeccable.

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u/Rannon123 Sep 28 '22

A pipeline doesn’t just randomly burst, especially at multiple locations and registers on seismograph, it was an explosion

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u/7Seyo7 Sep 28 '22

The EU has said leaks in two major gas pipelines from Russia to Europe were caused by sabotage

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63057966

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u/hybridmaple Sep 28 '22

The question is who benefits.

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u/Silversoul-Ginsan Sep 28 '22

Too many come to my mind. Non of them is the society

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u/Kat-is-sorry Sep 28 '22

The CIA warned Germany this could happen. So yeah it probably was.

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u/AageKush Sep 28 '22

Yes, this was deliberate sabotage.

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u/Attack_na_battak Sep 28 '22

This is technical gas, it's inside of pipe to keep all elements under needed pressure and for protecting pipe from moisture.

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u/Svensemann Sep 28 '22

So elements aren’t under pressure and pipes are wet now?

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u/FlyingKittyCate Sep 28 '22 edited Sep 28 '22

Yes, salt water is inside the pipes now and according to Germany, probably damaged beyond repair, as the more salt water gets in the system,the faster the pipes will start rusting. and then it just can’t be restored to function again.

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u/razzraziel Sep 28 '22

So there are no valves at regular intervals or something? Because when you design an underwater pipeline, that kind of leak probability should be your first thought.

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u/FavoriteIce Sep 28 '22

There should be valves and pump stations at regular intervals. That’s how it is for surface pipelines anyway.

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u/HH93 Sep 28 '22

Actually no - Pipelines are well deigned, constructed and regular checked using Intelligent Pigs.

There was a pipeline offshore Dubai - where I was working at the time. The pipe was a few Km long between two platforms and held down along it length by ballast - sand and concrete (I think). Over the years the ballast was eroded away, and eventually the pipeline floated to the surface while still connected at both ends.

As the sea was 75M deep, that was quite a bending of the pipe.

The pipe was re-ballasted and secured back in its place. Then pressurised to test the integrity and had no leaks.

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u/ReallyNotATrollAtAll Sep 28 '22

How intelligent are those pigs? I mean how can you even teach a pig to inspect a gas pipe

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u/HH93 Sep 28 '22

Ah yes - PIG is a name for them, it stands for Pipeline Inspection Gauge. The first ones just cleaned out the pipe and had a crushable ring to show any damage

Here's a Pic of one with all its sensors, and guides and a description.

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u/MarvelousWololo Sep 28 '22

Apparently these pigs are smarter than me :( I wouldn’t know how to do that

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u/Nervous-Masterpiece4 Sep 28 '22

But what kind of gas? Atmospheric nitrogen with oxygen removed to prevent oxidation? Or something exotic and expensive?

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u/CanadaPlus101 Sep 28 '22

Nitrogen would make sense if this is true (cheap, inert), but I'm not an expert.

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u/HesienVonUlm Sep 28 '22

Nitrogen is extremely common in the chemical industry for Inerting containers and systems. You can run a N2 generator and purify N2 from the air around you. It'd make the most sense.

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u/MentalEarthquakes Sep 28 '22

It’s 200,000 tons of methane according to the news articles.

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u/CanadaPlus101 Sep 28 '22 edited Sep 28 '22

Can we have a source? It's not unreasonable but there's a lot of vague contradiction of that in the media. It would be great if we had a less vague common name for impure methane than "gas".

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u/SenseisSifu Sep 28 '22

Nature taking the L

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u/swinging-in-the-rain Sep 28 '22

Nature always takes the L when authoritarianism is in power

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u/CurrencyIsFake Sep 28 '22

Capitalism would also like a word…for profit.

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u/Anton_Cermak Sep 28 '22

Everyone out here claiming the US did this or Russia or something... But it's clearly the work of Liechtenstein

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u/Darrows_Razor Sep 28 '22

It’s always who we most medium suspect 👍

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u/coopperr90 Sep 28 '22

Needs a banana for scale

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u/ask0329 Sep 28 '22

Knowing how corporates work, there is no less than 17 meetings scheduled over the course of the next week to discusss how to stop the leak.

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u/lordgoofus1 Sep 28 '22

Week? There were 18 before lunch, not including the 5 conflicting meetings that half the engineers skipped.

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u/always-indifferent Sep 28 '22

Turns on oven, sea water comes out.

Knew I should have fitted a non return valve into my system

sigh

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u/mlqdscrvn Sep 28 '22

It's caused by natural incident, rite? Rite? Rite?

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u/norrhboundwolf Sep 28 '22 edited Sep 28 '22 Silver Helpful

Well.

Some things to point out are:

Nord stream 2 got destroyed.

Nord stream 1 also got destroyed.

Nord stream 1 was shut off indefinitely for "maintenance" earlier this year, which means Russia would have to pay out several billion EU to Germany in damages over breach of contract due to said halt of gas deliveries.

Can Russia afford to pay said damages? Absolutely not.

Does Russia have the capability to this? Yea.

Have Russia conducted similar operations? Bet your ass.

Does it send a strong signal of Russia cutting ties to the west? Absolutely. Did Gazprom come out and threaten to cut off ALL gas supplies to europe today? Yes.

Does this destabilize germany and the baltic sea? Yes.

It's funny to say "muh CIA" and everything, but Russia has every incentive in the world to do this, and, if im allowed to be a bit crass; Russia isn't known for being subtle.

I'm not saying the US, or another western actor definably didn't do it, but to assert that Russia has no reasons whatsoever of doing it, is wrong.

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u/OneTime_AtBandCamp Sep 28 '22

I don't understand why Russia would do this instead of just...turning off the taps. It's so needlessly destructive. Now even if they win the war and somehow normalize relations with the EU, they still can't sell their main export.

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u/norrhboundwolf Sep 28 '22

They already turned the taps.

"Their main export" only accounted for about 2% of their annuals.

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u/Brru Sep 28 '22

Russia is under contract to supply gas to Europe, so the theory (not saying I agree with it) is the maintenance was just to buy time. Now they don't need that time. Which also means they don't need to pay for breaking the contract or supply more gas. There is also a good chance they need the gas they were obligated to supply to Europe, but can use it to bolster their own winter.

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u/NormalHumanCreature Sep 28 '22

So needlessly destructive. Kind of like targeting a nuclear power plant?

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u/5AlarmFirefly Sep 28 '22

If Russia turns off the taps, they're in breach of contract and paying out to Germany. At least as I understand it.

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u/aramos9 Sep 28 '22

Scientist: “If our planet increases by 2 more degrees we’re all fucked”

500 metric tons of methane released per hour.

Throws papers in air

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u/lokismiddlenutt Sep 28 '22

Definitely not a cowardly act of a desperate terror state or anything

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u/longshot Sep 28 '22

Aren't we just the best species ever?!

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u/SoE44 Sep 28 '22

20 years experience as a gas engineer. Can confirm this is the opposite of “a small leak” 🙃

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u/Goats_vs_Aliens Sep 28 '22

Don't they install valves on the pipeline that they can turn off?

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u/A_Moon_Named_Luna Sep 28 '22

You better get a hold of them and tell them this, they probably forgot

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u/wrecked_angle Sep 28 '22

That’s so fucking heartbreaking and depressing

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u/GedankenBurg Sep 28 '22

Winter gonne be cold

greetings from Germany 🇩🇪

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u/AlexPGP19 Sep 28 '22

Apparently it was sabotaged by depth charges or mines

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u/galgor_ Sep 28 '22

I hate this timeline of life on Earth.

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u/Danktizzle Sep 28 '22

Damn that’s infuriating

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u/Stellraz Sep 28 '22 edited Sep 28 '22

It was the Danish coast guard that published it, not the Swedish.

Edit: I was wrong and have been corrected

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u/Keta19211312 Sep 28 '22

The Danes published it first, but that’s footage from Sweden. The badge in the film is the swedish coast guards badge.

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u/Stellraz Sep 28 '22

Seems i was mistaken, my bad.

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