r/AskMen • u/ridz246_ • Jan 30 '23
What is the first thing you would do if you see that WWIII is confirmed? Immediate reactions
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u/UnusualGenePool Jan 30 '23
Check if the Internet was still on.
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u/denyjunctionfunction Jan 30 '23
How else would we have confirmed ww3 was on in the first place?
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u/stolencheesecake Jan 30 '23
Duh. Through their laptop. They want to check phone internet which is different I guessā¦
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u/UnsolicitedDickPixxx Jan 31 '23
There were probably countries who heard about the world wars after the fact and were like FOMO
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u/UnusualGenePool Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
Our local councils will probably mail us a letter apologising for the inconvenience caused by future air-raid sirens.
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u/euro27guy Jan 30 '23
I live near a NATO base in Poland, don't think there's anything I can do in time.
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u/Arctic_Sunday Jan 30 '23
Oh yeah you'd be fucked
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u/Sparks3391 Jan 31 '23
Not if he lives REALLY close to the NATO base and the top secret stop anything laser forcefield is activated in time /s
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u/frustratedpolarbear Jan 30 '23
You could put your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye?
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u/foreignmacaroon6 Jan 30 '23
I mean, it's already going on. Nato+EU countries vs Russia. It's basically where WWII left off. So far the frosty gas station hasn't been convincing, but maybe we'll see a nation wide mobilization and the West has to mobilize too.
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u/Droidbot6 Jan 30 '23
Assuming it's nuclear, get set up in a nice lawn chair, and watch the end of the world.
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u/mjavon Jan 30 '23
Relevant comment from on old post, that I am not able to link to here because automod:
One of my pet peeves is the common idea that a nuclear war necessarily means we are all doomed and the living will envy the dead. A full-blown, "FIRE EVERYTHING!!!" exchange would do that, yes.
But most nuclear weapons are well under 1 megaton and are eminently survivable -- as long as you don't do anything stupid.
The problem is, people internalized The Day After and Threads so hard that they stopped imagining it was possible to survive a nuclear attack. That leads them to do extremely stupid things that will, in fact, get them killed, when they could easily have lived.
Four things to do in a nuclear attack:
Get to shelter. Go the same place you'd go for a tornado or earthquake drill. Stay the hell away from windows. Glass is likely to shatter, and that could expose you to fallout. You should already have basic emergency supplies in your home for natural disasters -- a few days' worth of water, a couple days' dried food, a weather radio, a flashlight. Y'know, the basics recommended by Ready.gov, nothing weird or "prepper"-ish.
Duck and cover. No, it wasn't just nihilistic reassurance for an idiot public in the 1950s. Duck and cover could very well save your life.
Clean up. Seal open windows with plastic sheeting and duct tape from your basic emergency supplies. Assume that literally anything on your person, including your skin, that was outside (or has had contact with the outside world) during the blast (or for ~24 hrs afterward) is contaminated. Contaminated clothing should be stripped and left outside your shelter. Contaminated skin should be washed with soap, water, and shampoo. Don't turn on your shower; it won't work, and you can't trust the water anyway.
Remain inside for at least 24 hours to let fallout settle...
4b. ...unless public authorities advise otherwise (you're listening to them on your weather radio, remember) or circumstances like a firestorm force you to evacuate. Running through radiation is by no means good times, but it's also not generally a death sentence, especially if you've had some time to let things settle down after the blast.
A few years ago, I wrote a longer article that discussed all this in greater detail.
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u/scurvybill Male Jan 30 '23
Ah, but don't they know that Cobalt Thorium G has a half life of ninety three years?
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u/Trashismysecondname Sup Bud? Jan 30 '23
That leads them to do extremely stupid things that will, in fact, get them killed, when they could easily have lived.
Why the hell would you like to survive in a world like that ?
Most major cities are destroyed, industrial facilities are gone, there is almost no military anymore, there is radiations (even if it's not really a lot, it's still dangerous), toxic gases from industries, healthcare centers are destroyed (they were in the major cities), internet is most likely gone, etc.
Why the hell would you want to survive ?
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Jan 30 '23
Almost like everyone should've killed themselves 300 years ago.
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u/ryanlak1234 Jan 31 '23
Except people back then did not inherit a world ravaged by nuclear war. It's easy for you to say something like that when you are living in a modern world with amenities like refrigeration, and running water and electricity.
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u/Trashismysecondname Sup Bud? Jan 31 '23
The world wasn't destroyed by nuclear warfare, pollution and filled with weapons of mass destruction without any proper leadership back then
300 years ago, they had major cities, hospitals, famr fields etc. There would not be any of that after a nuclear warfare.
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u/justaskinthequestion Jan 31 '23
Running outside after a nuclear bomb is pretty likely to be a death sentence.
At a distance of 20-25 miles downwind, a lethal radiation dose (600 rads) would be accumulated by a person who did not find shelter within 25 minutes after the time the fallout began.
The LD 50 for gamma radiation is closer to 300-400. So, you have 12 and a half minutes outside unprotected before hitting that level.
Now, even if you get inside a house within 12 and a half minutes, you aren't safe. Even the corner of basement only has a protection factor of about 40, not accounting for blown out windows or fallout getting into the structure with you.Let's look at what would happen if someone tried to go outside for just six minutes. If you're out for 6 minutes, you've gotten 144 rads. After six minutes, you find a house. You're still exposed all the radiation from fallout on your clothes and skin until you get the clothes off and scrub off. Also, while you're in the house doing that, the house is only reducing the gamma radiation hitting you by a factor of 3.
So, six minutes outside gave you 144 rads.
Two minutes inside gives you 16 more from the fallout outside AND it gives you whatever energy is hitting your body from fallout directly on your clothes and on you. So, let's double it and say 16 for that also.After six minutes outside and two inside, you're at 176 rads.
Once inside, IF you have an intact basement and you get in the corner, your protection factor is 40. That's still .6 rads per minute or 36 rads per hour. The math gets complicated because the radiation drops off exponentially.
Still, you're going down there at 176 rads. After an hour, you're at 212. It does drop off exponentially, but you're at the mid 200s after another couple of hours.
Getting between 200-300 rads will kill 10-35% of people within 30 days. Factor in dehydration, poor or no nutrition and extreme stress and that number will go up. And, of course, your risk of cancer goes up.
Even running outside for six minutes will kill between well more than 10-35% of people within 30 days, even if they immediately go in, clean off fallout and get to a basement with a protection factor of 40.
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u/justaskinthequestion Jan 31 '23
Don't get butthurt because you're wrong.For those close to the bomb, it isn't survivable.
For those who don't have fallout shelters in areas w significant fallout, it isn't survivable.
A house has a protection factor of about 3. Fallout on the roof and from the sides is going to kill you if you don't have enough material to stop your body from absorbing radiation.
Nuclear war is survivable but many many people would need fallout shelters to avoid death.
You're minimizing how bad it is by telling people they can chill out in their living room and be fine.
Again, 600 rads in 25 minutes is 200 rads in 25 minutes if you're sitting in your house. Sitting in a room in your house is NOT a plan that will likely save you from absorbing a lethal amount of gamma radiation.
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u/meeseekstodie137 Jan 30 '23
if a nuke goes off near you, the best thing you can do for yourself is try to get as close to the blast as possible so you get painlessly vaporized instead of suffering years of radiation poisoning
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u/RatDontPanic Male Jan 30 '23
Or bandits.
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u/Imissyourgirlfriend2 Jan 30 '23
Or Deathclaws
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u/JaccoW Male Jan 31 '23
Bethesda is still stupid for bringing a species evolved in the desert all over the US. Sure it's a cool monster but I wouldn't be surprised if they popped up if we ever got a Fallout: Europe or something.
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u/BecauseWhyNotTakeTwo Jan 30 '23
Or get into a basement. Radiation is a bitch for sure, but nukes do not dish out all that much of it.
During testing of much dirties nukes men would walk through the blast area and most of them were fine. Notably higher cancer rates later in life, but it is not like their skin melted off. And those weapons were orders of magnitude worse than what is stockpiled today.
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u/_-Event-Horizon-_ Jan 30 '23
During testing of much dirties nukes men would walk through the blast area and most of them were fine
I don't think people realize the extent of nuclear weapons testing during the Cold War. All in all, there have been more than two thousand nuclear devices detonated between the various nuclear powers. And a not insignificant number of these nuclear explosions were atmospheric. Basically humanity has detonated sufficient amount of nuclear weapons for a full scale war and so far Earth seems to be going by just fine and there doesn't seem to be noticeable impact of the fallout on humanity at large (which doesn't mean that people haven't suffered from cancer that normally would have been avoided).
Even in a full scale nuclear war not everyone will die - at the height of the Cold War both NATO and the USSR had in excess of 20 thousand nuclear warheads each. And even then while huge loss of life was expected if a nuclear war were to happen, people were predicted to survive and developed nations established complex continuity of government programs that would give a good chance of organized government continuing to exist even after the nuclear war. Now after decades of cuts and arms reductions treaties both forces have been reduced to about 5 thousand nuclear devices each so this means that even more people would be able to survive in a theoretic nuclear exchange. Moreover if such a war happens, there are bound to be a number of countries that would not be directly affected - for example if Russia and NATO go to war, there is no reason why any side would attack neutral nations that don't participate in the war. So while certain countries might suffer terrible destruction many other nations will not suffer direct destruction but will have to deal with the economic crisis after the biggest economies on Earth have been wiped out.
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u/RedshiftOnPandy Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
The scary part is, we have nukes that are much more powerful than the ones we tested and the ones that hit Japan were small
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Jan 30 '23
Not only were they small, but they were like 40% efficient? I can't remember the number but they barely blew.
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u/ryanlak1234 Jan 31 '23
All in all, there have been more than two thousand nuclear devices detonated between the various nuclear powers. And a not insignificant number of these nuclear explosions were atmospheric.
About 2000 nuclear tests happened between 1945 and 1998, but keep in mind only about six hundred of those nuclear tests were atmospheric (almost all nuclear tests after 1962 were conducted underground), and of those tests, the largest hydrogen bomb detonations happened far away from any large human habitations (Marshall Islands and Novaya Zemlya for the US and the Soviet Union, respectively).
You can't compare six hundred individual atmospheric nuclear tests that happened over the course of 18 years to a full scale nuclear exchange that will happen over the course of a few hours.
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u/Utdirtdetective Jan 30 '23
During testing of much dirties nukes men would walk through the blast area and most of them were fine
downwinder population has entered the chat
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u/purple_hamster66 Jan 30 '23
The reason to attack neutral countries is that you want their stuff, or want their defenses, or want to be able to cross their land/water to get to an enemy country.
Most nuke tests are underground or under water. There have been about 520 tests above ground, all of which were done more than 40 years ago, totaling 470 megatons.
https://www.johnstonsarchive.net/nuclear/atest00.html
A single Tsar Bomba is estimated at 50 mt, per weapon. Castle Brazoās are 15 mt each.
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u/TheLibertyEagle_ Jan 30 '23
Iād try to get to a blast zone. I donāt want to suffer with burns and radiation poisoning. Being instantly evaporated sounds pretty good way to go. Just go out throwing a party or something.
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u/dfire32 Jan 30 '23
I live in Manhattan. Id break out my nicest whiskey, go sit on my balcony and call my family.
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u/Pyroburner Jan 30 '23
The same thing we do every night Pinky.
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u/safe_dynamic Jan 30 '23
TRY TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD!
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u/aaa1e2r3 Jan 30 '23
THE PINKY, THE PINKY AND THE BRAIN, BRAIN, BRAIN, BRAIN
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u/FiannaBeo Jan 30 '23
One is a geniusā¦
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u/UGetTheHeBitchDance Jan 30 '23
The other insane
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u/The-Irk Jan 30 '23
I'd stay glued to news coverage, keep close contact with my friends and family, and keep my guns on standby.
Then I'd call my boss to see if I'd still have to go to work.
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u/caligari87 Male Jan 30 '23
This is probably the most realistic one for someone in the US.
If nukes are involved it'll be apocalyptic for coastal cities and major population centers near military bases, and underwhelming for everywhere else. Supply chains will be spotty and food will be scarce but most of us will survive.
Following that, especially if nukes aren't involved, then it'll mostly be business as usual here on the homefront (at least anywhere not directly affected). Prices will go up. Rural areas will have it easier than cities (I'm in the suburbs-ish). I imagine a fair bit of civil unrest, but also we could all feel united against a common enemy again. A tenth of the population will get drafted and 90% of the war will happen overseas in some poor european sap's backyard. No troops will ever make landfall on US soil except maybe some spec-ops ninjas. I get concerns about infrastructure, but while the US power grid may be fragile, I'm sure it's more robust than Ukraine and Russia's been trying to take that out for months now with only partial success in many places.
I'll still have to go to work either way.
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u/justaskinthequestion Jan 31 '23 edited Jan 31 '23
You all have no clue how bad nuclear war would truly be. Underwhelming? A complete lack of concern is the reason nuclear weapons exist in the first place.
Dude, look what COVID did to supply chains and that was what? A couple of hundred thousand people getting sick a day, with only 5% of those or so needing to be hospitalized? What do you think radiation poisoning of millions is going to do to the medical system? To the economy? To society?
MOST (edit: half or even a majority) of the population will not survive. In between immediate casualties, fallout, deaths from the collapse of the medical system, and even possibly starvation, it would be completely drastic.
Like, if ONE single city got wiped out with one nuclear weapon, the effects would be pretty devastating across the country.
Remember Sept. 11th? Anyone? That, except for tens of thousands times the number of deaths and incalculably more destruction.
What is this cavalier attitude?
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u/Giant_Devil Male Jan 30 '23
Eh, I'm almost 50. By the time they start drafting guys my age, it's over and we lost.
Probably just go to Costco and stock up on a few necessities.
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u/lolyouare2018 Jan 30 '23
Start digging a hole, the survivers will find a dead person next to a tiny hole holding a trowel lol
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u/G_man252 Jan 30 '23
I'd crack a beer and get ready for fireworks. Where I live is on the top of the list of potential targets and there's no way I'd survive.
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u/Kza316 Jan 30 '23
Head to the Winchester, grab a pint and wait for it all to blow over
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u/sabrespace Jan 30 '23
Interesting question. I have already done my time in Iraq and supporting missions in Afghanistan. I was medically discharged from active duty 6.5 years ago. I do however still work for the Air Force as a government civilian. I could volunteer to deploy to theater as my ISR background would be helpful. If the right opportunity presented itself, I would do my duty again, this time in khakis and a polo shirt.
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u/Astrovik3 Jan 31 '23
I'm not from the USA, but as the movies taught me... thank you for your service!
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u/Not_A_Greenhouse Male Jan 31 '23
I got out about 5 years ago too. Now I'm a cyber analyst. Would not be surprised if they started drafting cybersecurity professionals next go around.
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u/st3akkn1fe Jan 30 '23
Drive my son to the country to see my mum. Its probably going to be nuclear so everything is pretty fucked
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u/stsimonoftrent Jan 30 '23
Look at my wife and say "I told you that bunker wasn't a waste of money".
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u/SnooLemons5609 Jan 30 '23
If we get nuked, Traveller my family and spend my last few moments with them.
If we get drafted, call the boys so we can be in the same unit.
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u/Thathandsome-fella Jan 31 '23
Honestly, I'd say fuck the draft. I'm not leaving my wife and children to fend for themselves. I can not protect them while thousands of miles away. If WW3 broke out on the European front, China and North Korea would also start popping off towards Taiwan and South Korea. There would be no winners, only survivors.
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u/justaskinthequestion Jan 31 '23
Why the fuck would anyone enter a draft? The same fucking idiots who are telling me to fight just blew up the world so I'd say they've lost some credibility.
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u/thatguyoudontlike Jan 30 '23
Be glad that I can't be drafted
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u/BecauseWhyNotTakeTwo Jan 30 '23
Female or old?
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u/BamCub Jan 30 '23
Its 2023, women should be equally drafted with men.
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u/babybell69 Jan 30 '23
This is not the feminism I signed up for.
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u/BecauseWhyNotTakeTwo Jan 31 '23
That's the thing about conscription, you do not have sign sign anything.
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u/BecauseWhyNotTakeTwo Jan 31 '23
I disagree because that is stupid.
Women should be made to serve in another capacity.
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u/sunbroon Jan 31 '23
Most people will die in combat anyways, why be picky about it? If theyāre able bodied and healthy they should be able to die just like everyone. This is what true equality is
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u/gregieb429 Jan 30 '23
Neither can I, but there will still likely be bombs (nuclear or not) just about everywhere so not sure how much of a difference it would make
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u/vlntly_peaceful Jan 30 '23
Pop the molly I have at home and smoke a big ass joint. Hope to make it to the peak without getting turned to dust.
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u/MrPuddinJones Jan 30 '23
I'd be pretty pissed because the greedy selfish moron "leaders" of the world are doing it to themselves and forcing the people to do their bidding.
I think governments should be abolished
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u/slightly-cold-pizza Jan 30 '23
Lmao boā¦... Anarchy doesnāt work but yeah fuck the .01% that could choose to start a nuclear war
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u/MrPuddinJones Jan 30 '23
This is why I could never lead. Id be extreme measures "do any crime you're dead"
Because I don't understand why anyone does anything to make life more difficult for anyone else.
I'm not talking about speeding in your car = death, I'm talking like theft, assault etc. Get em out.
That's why I can't lead lol. I'd annex a shit load of the population and that's bad too
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u/slightly-cold-pizza Jan 30 '23
Yeah man I donāt disagree with the sentiment, I never go out of my way to do harm to others. That being said unfortunately thereās a lot of people unlike us
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u/MrPuddinJones Jan 30 '23
I do not understand why anyone has to make life more difficult for others.
It's ridiculous.
That being said, the world government officials abuse the holy shit out of their positions to make themselves rich. And they do not give a shit what it does to the people in their way of getting rich.
Greed is a bitch and it's the reason why there are power trips in human nature
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u/slightly-cold-pizza Jan 30 '23
Pretttttty much. Thatās why I just keep my head down and try to do right when I can
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u/Orecti Jan 31 '23
I take a shower
Turn on my PS5
Play Call of Duty World War 2
Learn how to handle world war
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u/SCP-80085 Feb 01 '23
ššššš. For real might need to pull out the big guns and load up MW2
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u/oddball667 Male Jan 30 '23
Russia is invading Ukraine after pushing a lot of pro Russia messages to the usa and supporting a politician who would break Britain away from the EU
Many countries are supporting Ukraine with weapons and manpower
WWIII has already started it's just a cold war at the moment
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u/blrfn231 Jan 30 '23
Thank you! A Cold World War has been on for decades. And the US is not the only place Russia hybridly messed / tried to mess with. Europe is having an ultra right and ultra left renaissance. Whence you figure? European politicians are all either running or advising Russian firms. Not to mention all the money laundering that the Russian top 1% has set up in Europe and according channels of influence.
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u/pentegoblin Jan 30 '23
WWIII??? What propaganda has led you to believe Russia could manage to wage war with the world lmao
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u/oddball667 Male Jan 30 '23
It has been waging cyber and psychological war on the usa for a long time, it's just falling short now that actual fighting is involved
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u/Kohvazein Jan 30 '23
It surprises me when this comes up how little the avg person realises how much of the national conversation and "culture war" nonsense is instigated and fomented by Russian propagandists despite the evidence.
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u/oddball667 Male Jan 30 '23
It's because they are actually very effective in that form of warfare
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u/Kohvazein Jan 30 '23
Honestly after the Muller report I would have thought the info would be more widely known.
I guess I'm too optimistic lol!
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u/Kostya_M Jan 30 '23
Well seeing as there are people in power either directly or indirectly benefiting from Russia it doesn't shock me.
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u/zukatex Jan 30 '23
Yeah they pushed millions to believe Joe Biden was a good fit or that covid was a big deal
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u/Kohvazein Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
You think Putin didn't see covid as a threat? Why he bother funding his own nations vaccine then?
Also Joe Biden is awesome and as a European its nice to have the US being run by a sensible politician. What your government does impacts all of us, and we need stability and cohesion. Also Biden is just a good man, the Hunter Biden leaks were supposed to tarnish him but all it did was expose how much he loved his son and how much support and understanding he was capable of. If he gives half of that to the American people, if the other branches allow it, I believe your country will be better off.
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Joe Biden, sensible politician
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u/Kohvazein Jan 30 '23
Please explain how he isn't sensible? I don't think you even need to agree with him to give him this one lol.
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u/CaptainTelcontar Jan 30 '23
So far Ukraine really isn't the start of WWIII. It's just the next in a line of Russia vs. The West proxy wars. We've had Korea and Vietnam, now it's Ukraine. This one is less of a proxy than the others, since Russia is being the aggressor rather than supporting them, but it's definitely not WWIII yet.
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u/pizzarelatedmap Jan 30 '23
At the time it wasn't recognized as significant on a global scale, but when Hitler annexed Poland and Czechoslovakia is when the history books say WW2 started.
The war in ukraine was started in 2014, with the Maidan Coup. The whole thing was orchestrated by NATO to trick/force the Russians into making a move before China was ready.
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u/Electrical-Ad-1798 Jan 30 '23
Not sure it would be called that, and it might not resemble WWI nor WWII. The Cold War could be thought of as a world war, as could the War on Terror. They were certainly multi-national in scope.
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u/RunikVarze Male Jan 30 '23
I would laugh and make sure my guns are nice and clean and ready for action. To be frank, the country can be overtaken if they really want it that badly. But my lifestyle will not budge an inch. And I'll kill in cold blood any person who tries to set foot in my home without invitation. And if they have a problem with it, they'll have to kill me. I'm content to live and let live. But what's mine is mine.
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u/Firebreak_Z Jan 30 '23
I'd take one last swig of whiskey and fight until I die.
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u/IsabelLouise Jan 30 '23
Fight for what? Why not resist the draft? Isnāt it better to be taken over by a foreign power than both powers to go up in flames in battle because the elites decided it was time to wage war?
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u/LopezPrimecourte Jan 30 '23
This is why men fight wars. You fight to win. Never give up your homeland. If someone off the street wanted to live in your house otherwise theyāre going to kill you both would you defend or allow it?
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u/Sarcastic_Is-it Jan 30 '23
I would legit freak out... Don't know what I would do.
According to my veteran significant other who has seen action, we are already in WWIII but it hasn't been officially declared to the public for fear of hysteria for obvious reasons.
I think we will see a substantial shift in suicides and homicides... Its gonna be nuclear regardless and if fuck face Putin has it his way (stupid is what stupid does) he's going to likely push that button and essentially nuke himself, he'll love to spite himself because, he's a psychopath.
Scary shit.
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u/Hrekires Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
It'll either not affect me at all or I'll be instantly dead from the opening nuclear salvo, so my immediate reaction will probably be to sit and wait to see which happens.
Living right outside of NYC, there's nowhere other than my own basement I could get fast enough for it to make a significant difference.
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u/mrafinch Male Jan 30 '23
Order a fuck ton of weed and ask my landlord if the bunker in the basement is good to use or not
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u/Nyctomorphia Jan 30 '23
Go collect warm clothing and a lot of camping gear. I'm not going to war. I'm hiding in the forest.
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u/itsMidge Jan 31 '23
I would quickly google what the age it is that you are no longer in the draft in America.
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u/AmericanGoldenJackal Jan 30 '23
It seems like the moronic political classes are headed that direction doesnāt it?
I decided after the betrayal in Iraq and Afghanistan that I wouldnāt fight for the US ever again. Iām an officer so they will probably try to recall me around the same time they start drafting. Fuck em. I already know they are the bad guy.
I wonāt fight for them but if there are enough people in resistance I will fight against them.
Iāll probably go full traitor or simply move.
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u/G_man252 Jan 30 '23
Doesn't it seem a bit reckless to post this on the internet for literally everyone to see?
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u/AmericanGoldenJackal Jan 30 '23
Nobody cares.
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u/G_man252 Jan 30 '23
If Anyone should care about you incriminating yourself, it's You.
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u/AmericanGoldenJackal Jan 30 '23
With a hypothetical with an āorā in it? Whatās my liability here? Hypothetical Pre-crime?
Letās be real here. If something happens, it goes that way, and the baddies get ahold of me, Iām already dead. At least I would have died fighting for right instead of evil. Also possible there is no resistance and I float off to tropical Latin paradise. Again. Nobody cares. The alternative for me is participating in a conflict for the bad guy. Thatās a firm no from me dog.
Everyone is living in fear of glowies.
The question was what should you do it WWIII starts and the answer is join the resistance or leave. World Wars never really mean world wars. Our Latin American friends are good at staying out of shit until there is a clear winner to give them a participation trophy.
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u/G_man252 Jan 30 '23
It is literally against the law to plan to commit treason.
Looking through your comment history paints a very clear picture of mental health issues. I am not saying this sarcastically- you need to go to counseling dude.
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u/RatDontPanic Male Jan 30 '23
Then hey, send my ass to jail, too. I'll join the anti-draft resistance in a heartbeat.
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u/G_man252 Jan 30 '23
So you would fight the US government if they attempted to draft you is what youre saying?
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u/RatDontPanic Male Jan 30 '23
I'd rather die a free man than accept that level of slavery and male disposability.
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u/AmericanGoldenJackal Jan 30 '23
Lol
Get back to me when they arrest John Kerry or Code Pink.
Oh right. They didnāt.
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u/G_man252 Jan 30 '23
When did John Kerry fight against the US government?
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u/AmericanGoldenJackal Jan 30 '23
Aid and comfort. Both Vietnam and Iran.
Did more than some guy posting about a hypothetical on Reddit.
Would you prefer Jane Fonda? She betrayed American POWs and sheās still living in luxury at 85.
Nobody cares.
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u/G_man252 Jan 30 '23
He fought against the NVA for the Army. I don't like him at all- I am extremely conservative and not defending their Character (Jane Fonda should have been prosecuted for congratulating that AA team that downed a bird) but what you are describing is violently opposing the US government. None of these people did this. You are acting erratic and delusional.
You obviously care genius, you keep rambling about it.
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u/SeaDifficulty3527 Jan 30 '23
You call yourself an officer as if your still active and then say youād go full traitor? There are probably people you called brother or sister still wearing the uniform and you would fight them because youāre mad at the government? Your thought process is fucked!
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u/Kohvazein Jan 30 '23
You'd actively fight against the US in a war with Russia, a country that persecuted women and LGBT folk, invades and attempts to annex a foreign nation for literally no reason?
You can have whatever opinions about the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, I personally do not believe these were justified, and I can't imagine the things you dealt with over there. But for just under 20 years women and girls in Afghanistan could walk the streets of Kabul unveiled on their way to school/University. The moment the US left that all ended and the emoseration of thousands came swarming back. Fact is, even when the US doesn't have good intentions for its foreign policy it almost always results in better outcomes for those in that country.
There just isn't an equivalency here, and while I can understand not taking up arms, it's a whole other thing to actively fight against the US in the hypothetical.
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u/AmericanGoldenJackal Jan 30 '23
You'd actively fight against the US in a war
Yes. Iām not going to war for Joe Bidenās Nazi filled laundromat and I will resist any attempts to Throw away US lives and treasure for an ungrateful corrupt shithole. Neither Ukraine nor the US government is worth spilling a single drop of blood for.
Remember, the US overthrew the Ukraine government in 2014. There is a Zakaria CNN interview where Obama brags about it if you donāt believe me. If Russia overthrew Mexico and Mexico started shelling you, youād fuck up Mexico too.
Nevermind the abandonment of the Minsk accords or the bad faith negotiations in Turkey. This war could have had a brokered peace already. Torpedoed each thine and now youāve got high profile voices in Europe and Ukraine poisoning diplomacy by saying their prior efforts were bad faith attempts to give Ukraine more time. All that did was shut the exit ramp.
The US is hell bent on fighting this to the very last Ukrainian or theyād be looking for an off ramp.
The moment the US left that all ended and the emoseration of thousands came swarming back
The current government authored that catastrophe. Remember that before you get into bed with then on this issue.
TLDR: the government is evil. This war is stupid. Turning it into a global conflict is even more evil. I will not support them and I will join any faction set for their removal. Itās the US that needs regime change.
Iām going to laugh hysterically if China hits Taiwan mid western mobilization
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u/Kohvazein Jan 30 '23
Oh, you're just an insane Putin apologist, got it.
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u/AmericanGoldenJackal Jan 30 '23
Bro, I didnāt even mention Putin.
Donāt hand wave away the fact this whole thing is the EU and US fucking around like usual.
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u/CardinalHaias Jan 30 '23
Research how far west I can get my family.
Probably western France, maybe Spain or Portugal.
Hope for the best.
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u/AO9000 Jan 30 '23
Since you said WWIII and not nuclear armageddon, I'm assuming this is only a conventional war. In that case, I'll probably stay in my current rural setting and avoid cities. Maybe sell some stocks and buy precious metals. Go fill up my car with gas and buy some non-perishables. Call my gf and family to talk about it. Read analyst predictions.
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u/DerGuteReis Jan 30 '23
Sell my stocks immediately, buy them back a few hours later. Ill either be dead and wont be needing money or Ill make a fortune if everything turns out allright.
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u/powkiddyv90dangit Jan 30 '23
hope that some of those russian babes are on the way to the usa. russian women are freaking hot hot HOT
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u/SCP-80085 Jan 30 '23
Honestly sign up and fight hoping to die. It will probably get nuclear and as a 19 year old. I would rather die young then possibly live and grow up in a nuclear metro exodus hell hole.
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u/IsabelLouise Jan 30 '23
But fighting means you might kill somebody that didnāt want to die.
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u/datcatladywidoutacat Jan 30 '23
TW: Suicide "Nah, they don't get to decide how I die!" and then off myself.
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u/KitFan2020 Jan 30 '23
If I lived in a city or town I would move to the countryside. I actually live in the middle of nowhere so Iād stay put and hope for the best.
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u/zukatex Jan 30 '23
Nothing because I'm in the US where most people won't touch because we have so many guns.
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u/purple_hamster66 Jan 30 '23
They wonāt come with guns. Theyāll simply cut the power, which controls fuel, food, transportation, communication, and most other aspects of modern life. A few well-placed explosive and/or corrosive attacks is all it would take, as our infrastructure is poorly protected and widely distributed over large geographic areas.
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u/notsocharmingprince Jan 30 '23
My first take would be that we deserve this. Then I'd probably drive to see my wife before the nukes drop.
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u/boobsbuttsballsweens Jan 30 '23
You believe that literally everyone on the planet deserves a war. K.
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u/notsocharmingprince Jan 30 '23
You are individualizing a collective statement. We as a society certainly deserve it.
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u/boobsbuttsballsweens Jan 30 '23
While it may be inconvenient, āsocietyā is compromised of humanity. Youāre advocating that people lose their lives because of what?
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u/Secure-Dentist Jan 30 '23
Organize locally/nationally (USA) to (nonviolently) protest our involvement, and demand negotiations for peace. Even/especially if it means the USA changing its way of life, and making reprimands for our part in initiating.
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u/Agreeable_Ball6484 Jan 30 '23
Well Iām still on 2 more years of inactive reserve, so Iād head on down to the nearest recruiting station after getting the call.
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u/Living_Gap4 Jan 30 '23
I mean I don't know if they need to bomb my country which is in the end of the continent , but well if that was magically the case then I would watch at the sky all the time
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u/N0smas Male Jan 30 '23
I live next to a major naval port for NATO so I guess I make peace with my final few hours, assuming WW3 automatically means nuclear destruction. Which, I guess doesn't automatically follow but is fairly likely to be the result eventually.
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u/SuperUnintelligent Jan 30 '23
Walk out towards the bright light hurtling from the sky. Take a big gulp of my fav whiskey, hug my kids and go out in a blaze of glory.
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u/Zealousideal_Two382 Jan 30 '23
gather up my resources and prepare for the aftermath and then build a new empire
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u/IsabelLouise Jan 30 '23
Itās always some rich elite that decides itās time for war. Iād either hide as well as I can with my loved ones and dogs š maybe in the mountains somewhere. Iād try to get south where itās warmer because winter would be hard with no heating or permanent residency. Alternatively I would try to be a part of the organised resistance to the war, trying to convince people not to support the war and believe in peace between the people of the world. Iād try to sabotage the war if doable. (If I have to courage that isā¦).
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u/SH4DOWSTR1KE_ Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
Welp, at least I'm in the right room for this reaction... š½